Fox News vs. The Westboro Baptist Church
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Magnum Serpentine
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06-21-2006 08:11
From: Kevn Klein If we have learned anything about fighting bigotry, it's that we fight hatred with love, not more hatred.
People tend to feel sorry for the one being verbally abused, especially when the purpose of the abuse is focused on the religious beliefs of that person.
If the interviewer had just allowed the person to say what she believed, the viewers could have judged without her help. All she did was make it hard to hear. I think it allowed the World to see how hateful WBC and Fred are. |
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Devlin Gallant
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06-21-2006 08:17
Now what did Fred Flinstone ever do to you to deserve your hate? 
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Magnum Serpentine
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06-21-2006 08:32
From: Devlin Gallant Now what did Fred Flinstone ever do to you to deserve your hate? Not Flintstone, Phelps (SP) |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 08:33
From: Devlin Gallant Now what did Fred Flinstone ever do to you to deserve your hate? I always kinda figured he got drunk and beat his wife. Ya know, he just strikes me as that sort of a guy.
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Devlin Gallant
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06-21-2006 10:50
From: Magnum Serpentine Not Flintstone, Phelps (SP) Wrong again. Mr Phelps died in Mission Impossible I. 
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06-21-2006 11:46
From: Vivianne Draper Westboro Baptist = nutjobs picketing funerals. Julie Banderas (of Fox News) looses it while interviewing Shirley Phelps-Roper of the Westboro Baptist Church. *Quite* entertaining. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCdT9dfrb-QGood for her. I hope she didn't get into trouble. |
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Selador Cellardoor
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06-21-2006 11:49
From: Kevn Klein
If the interviewer had just allowed the person to say what she believed, the viewers could have judged without her help. All she did was make it hard to hear.
She is a decent woman, Kevn, reacting as a decent woman would. I think her emotion said more than any of the words spoken in that interview. |
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Juro Kothari
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06-21-2006 11:49
From: Kevn Klein Which ones are curtailed? |
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 11:54
From: Juro Kothari The right to marry, the right to adopt, the right to secure a job, the right to secure housing. Need more? How were they curtailed? |
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Juro Kothari
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06-21-2006 11:57
From: Kevn Klein How were they curtailed?
Repeals of existing laws, amendments to state consitutions, etc. |
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 11:59
From: Selador Cellardoor She is a decent woman, Kevn, reacting as a decent woman would. I think her emotion said more than any of the words spoken in that interview. Being decent has nothing to do with this. Either she is a reporter or not. If she can't do her job without reacting emotionally, she should get a new job. |
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Selador Cellardoor
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06-21-2006 12:01
From: Kevn Klein The definition for the word Bigot is.. "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."
It appears all who are intolerant of this lady's political view is a bigot. Kevn, forgive me for saying this, but this posting sounds as mad as that lunatic woman. |
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 12:03
From: Juro Kothari
Repeals of existing laws, amendments to state consitutions, etc.
Have you lost any rights you once had? What has anyone done to reduce your rights? Which laws and amendments are you talking about? States have consistently given homosexuals more rights, not less. Homosexual activity used to be illegal in most states. |
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 12:04
From: Selador Cellardoor Kevn, forgive me for saying this, but this posting sounds as mad as that lunatic woman. You are forgiven. Let me say, I expected this of you. |
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06-21-2006 12:05
From: Kevn Klein Have you lost any rights you once had? What has anyone done to reduce your rights? Which laws and amendments are you talking about? States have consistently given homosexuals more rights, not less. Homosexual activity used to be illegal in most states. I know in GA, sodomy is illegal. My son was told that in health class, go figure. |
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06-21-2006 12:09
I know its off-topic. But ive said it before and will say it again......im so glad i dont live in America. I would probably end murdering half of them.  |
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Aliasi Stonebender
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06-21-2006 12:13
From: Kevn Klein Being decent has nothing to do with this. Either she is a reporter or not. If she can't do her job without reacting emotionally, she should get a new job. Would you be saying the same if she was interviewing someone you found totally reprehensible morally and with few redeeming features, Kevn?
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 12:17
From: Aliasi Stonebender Would you be saying the same if she was interviewing someone you found totally reprehensible morally and with few redeeming features, Kevn? Absolutely! There is never a valid excuse for demeaning the beliefs and ideals of the interviewee. Furthermore, it's the unpopular speech that needs protection. Popular speech needs no protection. |
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06-21-2006 12:36
From: Kevn Klein Absolutely! There is never a valid excuse for demeaning the beliefs and ideals of the interviewee.
Furthermore, it's the unpopular speech that needs protection. Popular speech needs no protection. Peculiar how the only time when you seem to show an interest in protecting free speech, out of all of the examples in the world, is when the person concerned is an avowedly Christian bigot, though. One might almost think you had some sort of bias there, but clearly that would be a ridiculous assumption. |
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 12:46
From: Ordinal Malaprop Peculiar how the only time when you seem to show an interest in protecting free speech, out of all of the examples in the world, is when the person concerned is an avowedly Christian bigot, though. One might almost think you had some sort of bias there, but clearly that would be a ridiculous assumption. Have you ever seen me show a bias where free speech is concerned? |
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Ordinal Malaprop
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06-21-2006 12:49
Well, you've only ever posted to defend the free speech of a homophobic "Christian" bigot in my memory. I would love to be proved wrong there.
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 13:04
From: Ordinal Malaprop Well, you've only ever posted to defend the free speech of a homophobic "Christian" bigot in my memory. I would love to be proved wrong there. The reason is this forum is majority homosexual atheist/agnostic. I doubt they would need defending here. It's very telling those who supposedly hate bigotry feel it's OK to be bigoted when it suits their purpose. Either you are open-minded or not. Either you respect the beliefs of others or not. By the way, I have never supported hatred of homosexuals, in this forum or in RL, nor have I suggested anyone should not have first amendment rights. For you to suggest otherwise is unacceptable in a debate setting. I have become accustom to this kind of behaviour, as I find the "open-minded" are really not. |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 13:12
From: Kevn Klein It's very telling those who supposedly hate bigotry feel it's OK to be bigoted when it suits their purpose. Either you are open-minded or not. Either you respect the beliefs of others or not.
I have become accustom to this kind of behaviour, as I find the "open-minded" are really not. Still waiting for you to support your accusation that I'm a bigot... Or an appology, one or the other...
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Christopher Omega
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06-21-2006 14:54
From: Billybob Goodliffe I know in GA, sodomy is illegal. My son was told that in health class, go figure. In 2003 the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law that made sodomy illegal. It is now officially legal to do whatever you want (provided you're not killing anyone or growing marajuana) within your own bedroom. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/26/scotus.sodomy/Its a recent ruling, so perhaps the health teacher was unaware of it at the time. ==Chris |
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Christopher Omega
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06-21-2006 14:58
From: Kevn Klein The reason is this forum is majority homosexual atheist/agnostic. I doubt they would need defending here. I'd like you to back this statement up with some statistics. ==Chris |
