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Fox News vs. The Westboro Baptist Church

Vares Solvang
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06-20-2006 22:17
From: Kevn Klein
The interviewing reporter needs to learn how to interview, and not badger. I think it made Fox look terrible.



Is it possible for Fox to look any worse than they already do?
Michael Seraph
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06-20-2006 22:51
From: Vares Solvang
Is it possible for Fox to look any worse than they already do?


I think it's hilarious when the rightwingers complain that Fox isn't being fair to the ultrarightwingers.
Jopsy Pendragon
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06-21-2006 00:33
I think the biggest benefit AND threat from these westboro nutjobs is that their arrogant anti-American hate speech may actually bring people from the left and the right together to oppose them.

And I worry about the freedom of speech we have in this country should the left and the right ever agree on anything long enough to silence that little asylum of inbred hatred in some legal way.

Let them rant and wave their signs.

Don't like what their saying? Express your own point of view by standing upwind and spray paint your message onto your own posterboard. Make sure to empty as many cans of spraypaint as you possibly can. ;)

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Devlin Gallant
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06-21-2006 04:12
I don't see how people like the lady be interviewed even TRY to call themselves Christians. Cause they aren't.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-21-2006 05:10
From: Jopsy Pendragon
I think the biggest benefit AND threat from these westboro nutjobs is that their arrogant anti-American hate speech may actually bring people from the left and the right together to oppose them.

And I worry about the freedom of speech we have in this country should the left and the right ever agree on anything long enough to silence that little asylum of inbred hatred in some legal way.

Let them rant and wave their signs.

Don't like what their saying? Express your own point of view by standing upwind and spray paint your message onto your own posterboard. Make sure to empty as many cans of spraypaint as you possibly can. ;)

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:D just make sure its a lead based paint :D
Foolish Frost
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06-21-2006 06:29
<watches halfway through. Stops video and shakes head>

I have not raised my hand in anger to another human in over a decade.

:(

I'd have to hurt that creature. The moment I realized exactly what that was, it would have to be excised like a cancer.

People, MANSON talked like that. Seriously, she is a sick little puppy that needs to be dealt with. <sigh> Thank goodness she's public enough that people already know about her. On the bad side, she's going to be the focus of tons of lunitics looking for a leader as sick as they are.
Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 06:29
From: Jopsy Pendragon
I think the biggest benefit AND threat from these westboro nutjobs is that their arrogant anti-American hate speech may actually bring people from the left and the right together to oppose them.

And I worry about the freedom of speech we have in this country should the left and the right ever agree on anything long enough to silence that little asylum of inbred hatred in some legal way.

Let them rant and wave their signs.

Don't like what their saying? Express your own point of view by standing upwind and spray paint your message onto your own posterboard. Make sure to empty as many cans of spraypaint as you possibly can. ;)

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Huffing paint kills braincells. Providing of course there's some there to kill.

I agree completely. We are seeing it happen on this little forum, the right and left agreeing, willing to silence an unpopular opinion.

I never said where I stand on the issue, yet we see hatred coming from some here, directed at me simply for suggesting news reporters should report the news and not make news. This reporter wasn't interviewing, she was arguing with someone whom the news agency had invited to discuss beliefs and actions.

Those who show such disdain for the right of unpopular speech are the biggest threat to our rights and freedom. The actual content of the unpopular speech was no threat at all. The woman spouting these things doesn't threaten my freedoms.
Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 07:09
From: Kevn Klein
I agree completely. We are seeing it happen on this little forum, the right and left agreeing, willing to silence an unpopular opinion.

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Those who show such disdain for the right of unpopular speech are the biggest threat to our rights and freedom. The actual content of the unpopular speech was no threat at all. The woman spouting these things doesn't threaten my freedoms.


Not at all... disdain for bigotry is a good thing. Nobody is suggesting that she can't have her opinions, we just find it hillarious that someone did to her exactly what she does to everyone else.

The "woman spouting these things" potentially does threaten MY freedoms, however.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-21-2006 07:21
lets be honest this isn't even bigotry, its stupidity. just good ole' plain downright stupidity. personally I'd rather watch cars rust than her rattle on, but thats just me :p
Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 07:21
From: Reitsuki Kojima
......

The "woman spouting these things" potentially does threaten MY freedoms, however.

Which freedoms might that be?

Are you afraid her speech might attract a majority at the voting booth that would curtail your freedoms?
Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 07:24
From: Kevn Klein
Which freedoms might that be?

Are you afraid her speech might attract a majority at the voting booth that would curtail your freedoms?


Potentially. Stranger things have happened. No matter how outwardly offensive hate speach is, repeat it enough some some people will start to listen. It's happened before.
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 07:25
From: Billybob Goodliffe
lets be honest this isn't even bigotry, its stupidity. just good ole' plain downright stupidity. personally I'd rather watch cars rust than her rattle on, but thats just me :p

The definition for the word Bigot is.. "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

It appears all who are intolerant of this lady's political view is a bigot.
Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 07:26
From: Kevn Klein
The definition for the word Bigot is.. "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

It appears all who are intolerant of this lady's political view is a bigot.


Nope. Key phrase there is "and is intolerant of those who differ". I tolerate her. I just dislike her.
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 07:27
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Potentially. Stranger things have happened. No matter how outwardly offensive hate speach is, repeat it enough some some people will start to listen. It's happened before.

Paranoia will destroy ya.
Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 07:30
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Nope. Key phrase there is "and is intolerant of those who differ". I tolerate her. I just dislike her.

Intolerance: "unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs"

So you respect differences in opinions or beliefs? I think not.
Billybob Goodliffe
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06-21-2006 07:30
From: Kevn Klein
The definition for the word Bigot is.. "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

It appears all who are intolerant of this lady's political view is a bigot.

dude, its called a joke, lighten the hell up will ya?

whats the matter, I strike a nerve?
Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 07:33
From: Billybob Goodliffe
dude, its called a joke, lighten the hell up will ya?

haha... *stretches* *yawns*
Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 07:36
From: Kevn Klein
Intolerance: "unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs"

So you respect differences in opinions or beliefs? I think not.


Thankfully, what you think has no bearing on reality :) I absolutely do respect differences in opinions and beliefs.

The distinction here is, I can respect the differences, without respecting the belief itself.

For example, I respect a persons right to be racist - but I don't respect racism.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 07:40
From: Kevn Klein
Paranoia will destroy ya.


Caution becomes paranoia when there isn't anything to support a healthy dose of caution.

I would remind you, a year ago many states passed a law that the KKK rallied to support.
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 07:43
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Thankfully, what you think has no bearing on reality .......

I think we are done here, have a wonderful day. :)
Juro Kothari
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06-21-2006 07:52
From: Kevn Klein
Which freedoms might that be?

Are you afraid her speech might attract a majority at the voting booth that would curtail your freedoms?

They already ARE curtailed, Kevn.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-21-2006 07:57
From: Kevn Klein
I think we are done here, have a wonderful day. :)


So, can this be taken as a retraction of your early statement, and a concession that I'm correct in this matter?
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Kevn Klein
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06-21-2006 08:00
From: Juro Kothari
They already ARE curtailed, Kevn.

Which ones are curtailed?
Magnum Serpentine
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06-21-2006 08:08
From: Kevn Klein
The interviewing reporter needs to learn how to interview, and not badger. I think it made Fox look terrible.



I knew it...

You support Fred and WBC.

I knew it.
Magnum Serpentine
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06-21-2006 08:09
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Considering the circumstances, I think she was fair.



I think she restrained herself. Now if she will only do that to Dictator George and James Dobson
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