A little proof of Evolution

I hear this from scientifically minded individuals frequently. It's a defeatist attitude that we can no longer afford to adopt. It's time that rational people stand up and be counted.

Whoever you are, that was a fantastic post. As well as being technically rich and easily accessible, it really shows the gulf of understanding and technical ability between the two sides of the debate.

Two quick statements to satisfy my compulsions. Latin prefixes should be joined to their noun even if it places two vowels together. So it would be macroevolution and microevolution just like it is microorganism instead of *micro organism. Secondly, a noun with an aspirated word-initial h has no liaison. So it would be a history not *an history.

What? You don't obsess too?

~Ulrika~

I said promotion, not propaganda. I don't think promoting something you believe to be right is a bad thing. Why else bother to publish at all?

Right but there are watchdog groups that attempt to pointout the difference, editorial and opinion should be clearly classified as such.

The press has an obligation to give an unbiased briefing of the facts to the populace, but I digress and we're hijacking this thread....

Sry... =)

Duly noted.

So who are you? Are you an alt or a fresh new well-educated member of the community? That was quite a post for your first one.

~Ulrika~

If a population changes because certain alleles gain ground at the expense of others, without any change in the sequence of base-pairs, is that still called mutation?

Just asking. You've convinced me that you know more about this than I do.

-Alvin

Well, I'm a friend of Phedre, who posted earlier in the thread. I know her from Yahoo chat, and she tried to get me into SL. However, it didn't really stick. In yahoo chat I spend a great deal of time debating creationists, hence why I was brought up.

However, it wasn't Phedre who alerted me to this thread, but another friend that I know from an entirely different life. Since my name had been invoked, I decided to add my two cents, if for nothing else than to support Phedre.

No, a change in allele frequency of preexisting alleles would not be a mutation, however, it would be evolution. A mutation would involve some cange to DNA sequences. In the context of evolution, it would be the inheritence of DNA sequences, or arrangements, that are not present in either parent.

We only have one creationist here, but we get a lot of milage from him.

Any friend of Phedre is a friend of mine. Welcome.

~Ulrika~

Time to rotate the tires on that ol' junker.

~Ulrika~

I am very active in the Creation/Evolution debate. I just recognize the difficulty. Who we need to target are the disinterested, undecided people in the middle. those who are apatheitcally ignorant need to be made aware of the issues and how they can effect them in the long run.

aww hell we can't have that, no fun. I change my mind, I'm a creationist now.

So riddle me this, what created the big bang? Huh? Can't answer that? There is only one answer, God. God did it, you can't prove otherwise, I win, argument over.

I couldn't agree more.

I have a very interesting idea. You should create a new thread called "Evolution Basics" and post a series of one or two paragraph posts with links to bring people up to speed. You could have topics such as "micro- versus macroevolution", "genesis", and "alleles - what are they". In between these posts, you can field questions. That would be spectacular. I'd read every word.

I'd keep the posts reasonable in size though. I have a lot of trouble reading long posts.

~Ulrika~

I have a better idea, let's gang rush some Christian forums and beat them into submission with logic and critical thinking. lol

Whoa! That's not a bad idea. We should find a Christian forum, all register as users, and then jump in on a debate at a predetermined time.

~Ulrika~

Okay, guys.

You guys can't figure out whether I made everything or not, or even whether I exist.

Here's how it is: Yes, I made the universe. I made every bird, duck, and quark in existence.

Those birds aren't "evolving", they're just "Shifting". What's the difference? They always had the potential to have big beaks or small beaks, kind of like the way ZugZug has a big brain (but doesn't use it much) and Kendra has a smaller one (no offense, but I have the blueprints right here, so I know all about it).

Seriously: I intended what you'd call "Micro-evolution" all along, specifically to handle changes in environment. But in no way did I ever set up a mechanism for one species to change to another. It's simply impossible. Species are self-limiting: when a specimen is conceived and the chromosomes are that badly messed up, the fetus spontaneously aborts.

So stop arguing over whether I exist, and go love one another.

Have a nice day, my children.


-Your Creator.

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[Edited because I gave myself the creeps.]

PODUS = President of Duh Yew Ess

PODUS = President Of Dee United States, lol, POTUS is what I meant, thanks for the correction, I was spelling fonetiklee.

Hey, this hair is all real! It's GRAY... but that's because I saw what you did last week.

So why is he called leader of the free world? The US is about the least free 1st world nation I know of.