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Gabe Lippmann
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03-09-2006 14:14
From: Sally Rosebud
So... life isn't fair... that's a new lesson?
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This isn't the same as...

Why did God let that Hummer run over my puppy?
Life's not fair kiddo.
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Sally Rosebud
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03-09-2006 14:18
From: Gabe Lippmann
This isn't the same as...

Why did God let that Hummer run over my puppy?
Life's not fair kiddo.


:eek: You ran over my puppy!!!!
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03-09-2006 15:47
Oh yeah? Well, why don't we all just crawl off in a corner and accept whatever happens then, since life isn't fair?

This isn't exactly an accident or an act of God we're discussing here. This is something that doesn't need to happen anywhere, and shouldn't happen.

However, I'm hopeful that this sort of bias, favortism, injustice, or whatever the heck combination of things it was will become less commonplace with the resmod system.

Yes, I actually have some hope for that. And things can improve. If they are trying to do better (the Lindens, I mean), then that is a good thing and should be encouraged.

Meanwhile, just let this happen to YOU. Then I can just sit here and tell you, well, hey, life isn't fair, suck it up.

I mean, get real. They cant punish one person for saying basically nothing and then turn around and let others say "f**k you" all over the place, and expect me to accept that because, oh well, let's see, how about, "Life isn't fair."
Um . . . no.

And - I want that warning GONE off my RECORD.

coco
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Sally Rosebud
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03-09-2006 16:03
Well gee, if I was being cursed at continually, I would just AR and stop posting in the forums for a while, not continually whine about it. But again, that's just me. Of course I haven't been cursed at (on these forums), nor have I cursed at anybody (on these forums). I may feel like it sometimes, but there's no need for it. There's lots of things that have happened to me in my life that aren't fair, but you just have to deal with it and move on. There are more important things in life to worry about. Oh, but that is MY opinion, take it or leave it. :)
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Nolan Nash
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03-09-2006 16:11
I love how being disciplined for repeatedly disparaging the Mentors group get's turned into, "No, why don't YOU go somewhere else instead and stop ruining MY forums?", being the "reason".

A good backdrop is an essential for any screenplay I suppose...

I have twice received formal warnings for quoting OTHER people's statements, while their original posts were left UNMODIFIED, and mine were edited and coupled with warnings which I contested, but never heard one word back about. You don't hear me bringing it up at every possible juncture as some proof of how corrupt LL is. But then, I don't have an agenda to prove that LL is biased.

I am of the mind that you don't even believe half the garbage you spew here. Any sane person who really felt that they were specifically being treated unfairly because of who they are, especially when paying for a service offered by said corrupt entity, would leave, or at least tier to basic. I know I certainly wouldn't pay them.

Look, there are people who break the rules in RL and get nailed the first time - that is how my life goes. Then there are those who have the luck to get away with a lifetime of crap, with no or very little repercussion. It used to drive me nuts, when I was in my youth, but I had to decide that steeping myself in it for months and indeed years was worse punishment than any body of authority could have subjected me to. Not only that, my grousing about how unfair life was just made my friends and family look at me like I had something on the end of my nose.

Bottom line - you went after a group, every chance you got, and it got noticed. Waaaaah.

Standing there shouting "But MOM! Billy threw mudpies at the cat last week, why are you punishing ME for pulling the dog's tail!!??!!", is immature and exposes a self-righteous streak the size of Halley's comet. But hey, if you enjoy living in a state of perpetual bitterness, so be it...
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Weedy Herbst
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03-09-2006 16:24
From: Cocoanut Cookie
Here's how it works (she says bitterly):

You get an official warning for saying: "No, why don't YOU go somewhere else instead and stop ruining MY forums?"

You do not get an official warning for saying: "Go f**k yourself and the horse you rode in on, you full-of-s**t retard."

That's how it works.

coco


That's your version of the story.....some how you neglected to take responsibilty for the first line of that post.
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03-09-2006 16:39
From: Nolan Nash
grousing about how unfair life was just made my friends and family look at me like I had something on the end of my nose.
You might have actually had something on the end of your nose. Did you check?
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Taco Rubio
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03-09-2006 16:48
wait a fucking second. Are you guys saying that

"No, why don't YOU go somewhere else instead and stop ruining MY forums?"

isn't actually a quote either? :confused:
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03-09-2006 17:00
Yes, Weedy, that first line is what I got the warning for, and yes, I take responsibility for having said that. Just like I take responsibility for all the sentences in this post.

The Lindens can take responsibility for giving me an official warning for having said that. Which on its own certainly warranted no warning, and when taken in conjunction with the far worse things said right and left (by others) that got no official warning, it purely boggles the mind.

Even you, Weedy, regardless of whether you thought I should get that warning or not (and obviously you did), wouldn't likely claim that I should get warned for that but others should not get warned for telling people up yours and whatnot.

Sally, I did AR them. Why should I just stop posting in the forums for a while? Why would you stop posting in the forums just because some neanderthal cursed at you?

Nolan, that's what it was for, and that is the part that was edited out. I didn't even know it had happened for a couple of weeks, when the person who AR'd it mentioned it, and I went to look.

And I didn't "go after a group." I CRITICIZED the idea that the group would have special entree to newbies. I still think that sucks, by the way.

Taco, the sentence was edited out, but to the best of my knowledge, I said pretty close to: "No, why don't you go somewhere else INSTEAD and stop ruining MY forums." And I said it after I'd been told repeatedly to stop injecting myself into that and other threads.

Nolan, I agree with you, those warnings for quoting others were ridiculous. And hopefully the sort of thing that will get better with the new resmod system. I will point out, however, that you did just mention it again, and not for the first time.

One doesn't need an "agenda" to prove a system is dysfunctional, inconsistant, and biased when the obvious facts show that a system is dysfunctional, inconsistant, and biased.

Hopefully this will improve as time goes on.

coco
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03-09-2006 17:10
From: Cocoanut Cookie
Which on its own certainly warranted no warning.
coco


What was said, was a vicious personal attack. Why should you be exempted from the rules?
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03-09-2006 17:13
Vicious personal attack? What about the individual that kept telling me to stop injecting myself into threads? What I said was a reaction to that.

coco
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03-09-2006 17:17
From: Cocoanut Cookie
Vicious personal attack? What about the individual that kept telling me to stop injecting myself into threads? What I said was a reaction to that.

coco


There is nothing in the rules that allows you to act inappropriately to something you deem as disagreeable.
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03-09-2006 17:18
I don't feel that reaction was any more innappropriate that someone telling me to get off the thread. In any case, we aren't going to see eye-to-eye on this, so what say we just go play SL!

coco
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03-09-2006 17:22
From: Cocoanut Cookie
I don't feel that reaction was any more innappropriate that someone telling me to get off the thread. In any case, we aren't going to see eye-to-eye on this, so what say we just go play SL!

coco


Fine, dismissing your own bad behavior whilst hectoring others about theirs, will stand.
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03-09-2006 18:55
From: Cocoanut Cookie
Nolan, that's what it was for, and that is the part that was edited out. I didn't even know it had happened for a couple of weeks, when the person who AR'd it mentioned it, and I went to look.
You are ignoring the fact that there was a HISTORY before that one that sent you over the edge. Or maybe you're not forgetting, and simply trying to cloud that.

From: Cocoanut Cookie
And I didn't "go after a group." I CRITICIZED the idea that the group would have special entree to newbies. I still think that sucks, by the way.

This wasn't the only time you insinuated that the Mentors group was corrupt. See above.
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03-09-2006 19:06
Will you quit fucking whining and go play out in traffic?

We do not care if anyone has or has not been warned or disciplined. If you have, then suck it up and act like an adult and quit bitching that you have been singled out. If you have not, then who cares?

And making an alt just for the sake of having a clean record so you can maybe be a ResMod yourself is sad. Just sad.
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03-09-2006 19:33
That would be sad, Creami, if I had done it. I would have had to have wanted to be one first, though.

I would also have been so totally stupid as to think that an alt would do the trick, particularly when I announced in announcements before I posted with this alt who it really was, not to mention the signature at the bottom of every one of my posts which is, I think, pretty much a dead giveaway.

I would also point out that someone else brought up this topic. I contributed to it. The person who brought up the topic cares about it. In fact, anyone with any sense who cares about SL cares about the modding of the forums being at least reasonably fair and consistent. If it was not in the past, hopefully it might be more so from this point on.

coco
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03-09-2006 19:58
From: Kevn Klein
I have noticed threads closed and posts edited
Which ones?
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Sally Rosebud
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03-09-2006 20:32
heh, you're not likely to get any evidence or proof on that one :)
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Kevn Klein
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03-10-2006 07:17
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Which ones?

Closed threads are:
/112/87/92243/1.html
/112/f5/92163/2.html

Edited post for breaking rules:
/140/d7/91934/2.html#post926058
Sally Rosebud
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03-10-2006 07:53
So shouldn't this thread be closed since it's talking about why a couple threads were closed?
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Kevn Klein
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03-10-2006 08:28
From: Sally Rosebud
So shouldn't this thread be closed since it's talking about why a couple threads were closed?

It's not talking about why a couple threads were closed, it's asking if LL is no longer issuing warnings for breaking rules on the forums.
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03-10-2006 08:34
From: Kevn Klein
It's not talking about why a couple threads were closed, it's asking if LL is no longer issuing warnings for breaking rules on the forums.


I don't recall warnings ever being issued to any and all posts that are closed; I always thought it was a subjective thing. Despite your long standing opinion, I don't think it's an automatic warning system.
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03-10-2006 08:45
From: Taco Rubio
I don't recall warnings ever being issued to any and all posts that are closed; I always thought it was a subjective thing.

How could you recall anything about the reporting of posts requiring editing, or starting threads that break the rules? Have you kept a running account of all closed and edited posts, and compared them to the police blotter? If so, please let us in on your information.
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03-10-2006 08:50
From: Kevn Klein
How could you recall anything about the reporting of posts requiring editing, or starting threads that break the rules? Have you kept a running account of all closed and edited posts, and compared them to the police blotter? If so, please let us in on your information.


Oh i'm not trying to enter a debate with you, Kevn; I'm saying that I believe that closed threads can sometimes result in informal warnings (which are not on the blotter), or simply can be closed with no warning issued at all. You seem to be indicating there has been a change of policy; I'm trying to express my opinion it's always been this way.
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