Second Life Forums Archive - Dear Philip: Fix the (edited) build tools!

Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 20:13

From: Derek Jones

Bran,

If I were anywhere near you, I would slap you and tell you how your approach was awful and made me want to throw up what I ate an hour ago. I have no idea where in your mind you think that insulting the Lindens and their efforts to service us is completely off. I can tell you right now that if you continue this childish approach, nobody will help you. Please, by all means, continue to sit there at your computer typing your disapproval of the Lindens and their efforts to improve the world. I hope they don't fix it simply due to your complaints. I know I wouldn't.

Sorry, but I do not see Philip giving a damn. As for insulting the Lindens, I am insulting Philip in particular, none other. He has no problem insulting me by retaining well known and reported bugs. As for you tossing your lunch, please direct it toward Philip.

In the real world, not SL, bug reports are responded to, numbered and fixes reported to the submiter. As far as anyone can tell SL bug reports are mass deleted, probably by the email deamon.

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01-21-2005 20:16

From: Rickard Roentgen

That's your bug!? you didn't even pick one that causes a problem!

That is _a_ bug. Check the building forum if you don't know any.

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01-21-2005 20:16

From: Siggy Romulus

If you asked where his bug was, I think I could answer that

Siggy.

I have a bug extractor....if you can get him in a headlock I might be able pull the bug out in a few hours....tight asses always take longer.

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01-21-2005 20:17

Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING. I imagine if you cut the bull and appreciate the work the lindens do to accomidate you and the rest of the lindens, you might actually get somewhere. Remember, you can very easily sit on your ass in front of your computer and complain, but what good does that do?

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01-21-2005 20:18

From: Bran Brodie

Sorry, but I do not see Philip giving a damn. As for insulting the Lindens, I am insulting Philip in particular, none other. He has no problem insulting me by retaining well known and reported bugs. As for you tossing your lunch, please direct it toward Philip.

In the real world, not SL, bug reports are responded to, numbered and fixes reported to the submiter. As far as anyone can tell SL bug reports are mass deleted, probably by the email deamon.

Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING. I imagine if you cut the bull and appreciate the work the lindens do to accomidate you and the rest of the residents, you might actually get somewhere. Remember, you can very easily sit on your ass in front of your computer and complain, but what good does that do?

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Jeffrey Gomez

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01-21-2005 20:22

Gimbal Lock.

Next.

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Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 20:23

From: Derek Jones

Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING.

LMAO, now _that_ is a good joke.

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01-21-2005 20:24

You can tell me that I'm wrong about what I know of my history with Linden Labs when you've been here for as long as I have.

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01-21-2005 20:24

From: Jeffrey Gomez

Gimbal Lock.

Next.

This specic bug is no Gimbal lock.......we believe it to be a Knob Gobbler but more testing needs to be done

Siggy Romulus

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01-21-2005 20:26

Gotta side with monkey boy on this one.... Every bug report I've put in has been replied to within 48 hours - every bug I bug reported was fixed within 2 updates..

I'd say if it's on the list - who knows what the priority is on that list though -- maybe if you asked (civilly -- I won't even suggest politely) they might let you know.

*shrug*

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Ardith Mifflin

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01-21-2005 20:31

From: Bran Brodie

That is _a_ bug. Check the building forum if you don't know any.

You call it a bug. I call it basic mathematics.

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01-21-2005 20:34

From: Bran Brodie

That is _a_ bug. Check the building forum if you don't know any.

lol no that's not a bug, that's just your rotation getting converted to quaternions and then back into degrees for display and since you can represent rotations in degrees multiple ways it shows up slightly differently. It effects nothing, deal with it. the real bug with rotations is when they slip 0.02 or so. And yes I already know the bugs. just seeing if you actually had a clue.

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01-21-2005 20:38

From: Derek Jones

Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING.

Can I report my bugs to you? I haven't even gotten a "yeah we're looking into this bug" reply for a while.

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Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 20:41

From: Siggy Romulus

Gotta side with monkey boy on this one.... Every bug report I've put in has been replied to within 48 hours - every bug I bug reported was fixed within 2 updates..

I'd say if it's on the list - who knows what the priority is on that list though -- maybe if you asked (civilly -- I won't even suggest politely) they might let you know.
Siggy.

From you and monkey boy I get the impression that bug reports from certain SLers are fixed but for most of us they are trashed.

Yes, I have politely reported bugs. I have _never_ received _any_ reply or had them fixed. I basically gave up SL except on rare occasions because of the building bugs, would drop it completely if it weren't for my better half wanting to continue.

We pay a fee to play, LL is not doing us a favor, we are the customer--it seems that many SLers have that concept reversed. For my over $1000+/year I do not feel that it is asking to much for a reply to my bug reports, just a little dialog, just a small indication that Philip gives a shit. I pay less for my web hosting and get service, emails answered, professionalism. Since I get none of this from Philip's SL I have gotten rather past being civil--sorry.

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01-21-2005 20:46

From: Bran Brodie

From you and monkey boy I get the impression that bug reports from certain SLers are fixed but for most of us they are trashed.

Yes, I have politely reported bugs. I have _never_ received _any_ reply or had them fixed. I basically gave up SL except on rare occasions because of the building bugs, would drop it completely if it weren't for my better half wanting to continue.

We pay a fee to play, LL is not doing us a favor, we are the customer--it seems that many SLers have that concept reversed. For my over $1000+/year I do not feel that it is asking to much for a reply to my bug reports, just a little dialog, just a small indication that Philip gives a shit. I pay less for my web hosting and get service, emails answered, professionalism. Since I get none of this from Philip's SL I have gotten rather past being civil--sorry.

I wouldn't judge the priorities of Linden Labs without first understanding what they go through. In the last few weeks, they've had a string of bad luck with the Second Life servers. They've been faced with a tough descision in the last two months on whether or not to fix Second Life to the point that it is usable or answer every single bug report they recieve. If you and everyone else in Second Life sent a bug report, do they have the capacity to handle those many requests? No. Before you judge them, please consider the fact that they've came in during the holidays to fix bugs and errors and are usually working late into the night so you can enjoy Second Life.

Bran, you obviously take what you have for granted.

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01-21-2005 20:50

From: Bran Brodie

Dear Philip: .....

In the words of Devlin Gallant
MINOR ALERT!!!!!!!

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01-21-2005 20:52

From: Bran Brodie

Because it is a joke perpertrated by Philip?

Knock knock.

Who's there?

BROKEN BUILD BUGS! BROKEN BUILD BUGS! HAHAHHA.

...

LF

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01-21-2005 20:53

From: Bran Brodie

From you and monkey boy I get the impression that bug reports from certain SLers are fixed but for most of us they are trashed.

Yes, I have politely reported bugs. I have _never_ received _any_ reply or had them fixed. I basically gave up SL except on rare occasions because of the building bugs, would drop it completely if it weren't for my better half wanting to continue.

We pay a fee to play, LL is not doing us a favor, we are the customer--it seems that many SLers have that concept reversed. For my over $1000+/year I do not feel that it is asking to much for a reply to my bug reports, just a little dialog, just a small indication that Philip gives a shit. I pay less for my web hosting and get service, emails answered, professionalism. Since I get none of this from Philip's SL I have gotten rather past being civil--sorry.

Why do you keep referring to Philip specifically? Do you think he's got nothing better to do than to personally respond to every bit of correspondence? If you think that paying your paltry 1,000 dollars per year entitles you to make the CEO of LL your bitch, I think you might be in for a surprise.

Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 21:01

From: Derek Jones

I wouldn't judge the priorities of Linden Labs without first understanding what they go through. In the last few weeks, they've had a string of bad luck with the Second Life servers. They've been faced with a tough descision in the last two months on whether or not to fix Second Life to the point that it is usable or answer every single bug report they recieve.

I'm sorry but LL bad design of their system is not my problem. My problem is paying LL every month, their problem is making it work..

From: Derek Jones

or answer every single bug report they recieve. If you and everyone else in Second Life sent a bug report, do they have the capacity to handle those many requests?

So, for my $1000+/year it would be to much to expect that they would answer several? And if they fixed the bugs there would be fewer bug reports. It really is a mind-set. Several years ago where I worked the developers had to respond to service problems 24/7. This meant that on average there were two calls per week between midnight and 6AM. After a few weeks I got tired of these calls, found the problems and fixed them. Not I can only wonder why none of the other half dozen developers had not fixed them, had put up with them for over a year.

From: Derek Jones

No. Before you judge them, please consider the fact that they've came in during the holidays to fix bugs and errors and are usually working late into the night so you can enjoy Second Life.

I have worked every holiday you can name, not big deal there. For years I was in the commercial broadcast field, 24/7 service, been there, done that. Prepared for failures, handled them as they came along. Did I expect the listeners to thank me? No, it was my job

From: Derek Jones

Bran, you obviously take what you have for granted.

No, I pay $100+/month, that is my part of the bargain.

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Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 21:05

From: Ardith Mifflin

Why do you keep referring to Philip specifically?

Because he is the only person I know that has the power to make a decision to fix bugs.

From: Ardith Mifflin

Do you think he's got nothing better to do than to personally respond to every bit of correspondence?

He nor anyone at LL has ever responded to any correspondence. I should expect for Philip to be concerned about the level of service LL supplies to it's users.

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Tya Fallingbridge

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01-21-2005 21:09

From: Bran Brodie

Dear Philip: Fix the fucking build tools!

From: someone

You really have nerve...I hope your account gets banned

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01-21-2005 21:12

And I thought alby was the lowest form of existance =(

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Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 21:14

From: Tya Fallingbridge

You really have nerve...QUOTE]Thank you!

From: I hope your account gets banned[/QUOTE

I wish! But like they say, Philip is laughing all the way to the bank with my money.

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01-21-2005 21:15

From: Bran Brodie

I wish! But like they say, Philip is laughing all the way to the bank with my money.

I would to if someone talked to me like that...

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Bran Brodie

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01-21-2005 21:16

From: Lance LeFay

And I thought alby was the lowest form of existance =(

Wrong, it's Philip--for taking our money, using our builds to sell SL and refusing to fix the building bugs.

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Dear Philip: Fix the (edited) build tools!
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 20:13 From: Derek Jones Bran, If I were anywhere near you, I would slap you and tell you how your approach was awful and made me want to throw up what I ate an hour ago. I have no idea where in your mind you think that insulting the Lindens and their efforts to service us is completely off. I can tell you right now that if you continue this childish approach, nobody will help you. Please, by all means, continue to sit there at your computer typing your disapproval of the Lindens and their efforts to improve the world. I hope they don't fix it simply due to your complaints. I know I wouldn't. Sorry, but I do not see Philip giving a damn. As for insulting the Lindens, I am insulting Philip in particular, none other. He has no problem insulting me by retaining well known and reported bugs. As for you tossing your lunch, please direct it toward Philip. In the real world, not SL, bug reports are responded to, numbered and fixes reported to the submiter. As far as anyone can tell SL bug reports are mass deleted, probably by the email deamon. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 20:16 From: Rickard Roentgen That's your bug!? you didn't even pick one that causes a problem! That is _a_ bug. Check the building forum if you don't know any. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Talen Morgan Amused Join date: 2 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,097	01-21-2005 20:16 From: Siggy Romulus If you asked where his bug was, I think I could answer that Siggy. I have a bug extractor....if you can get him in a headlock I might be able pull the bug out in a few hours....tight asses always take longer.
Derek Jones SL's Second Oldest Monkey Join date: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 668	01-21-2005 20:17 Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING. I imagine if you cut the bull and appreciate the work the lindens do to accomidate you and the rest of the lindens, you might actually get somewhere. Remember, you can very easily sit on your ass in front of your computer and complain, but what good does that do? _____________________ The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one
Derek Jones SL's Second Oldest Monkey Join date: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 668	01-21-2005 20:18 From: Bran Brodie Sorry, but I do not see Philip giving a damn. As for insulting the Lindens, I am insulting Philip in particular, none other. He has no problem insulting me by retaining well known and reported bugs. As for you tossing your lunch, please direct it toward Philip. In the real world, not SL, bug reports are responded to, numbered and fixes reported to the submiter. As far as anyone can tell SL bug reports are mass deleted, probably by the email deamon. Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING. I imagine if you cut the bull and appreciate the work the lindens do to accomidate you and the rest of the residents, you might actually get somewhere. Remember, you can very easily sit on your ass in front of your computer and complain, but what good does that do? _____________________ The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	01-21-2005 20:22 Gimbal Lock. Next. _____________________ ---
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 20:23 From: Derek Jones Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING. LMAO, now _that_ is a good joke. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Derek Jones SL's Second Oldest Monkey Join date: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 668	01-21-2005 20:24 You can tell me that I'm wrong about what I know of my history with Linden Labs when you've been here for as long as I have. _____________________ The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one
Talen Morgan Amused Join date: 2 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,097	01-21-2005 20:24 From: Jeffrey Gomez Gimbal Lock. Next. This specic bug is no Gimbal lock.......we believe it to be a Knob Gobbler but more testing needs to be done
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	01-21-2005 20:26 Gotta side with monkey boy on this one.... Every bug report I've put in has been replied to within 48 hours - every bug I bug reported was fixed within 2 updates.. I'd say if it's on the list - who knows what the priority is on that list though -- maybe if you asked (civilly -- I won't even suggest politely) they might let you know. shrug I'd like to say 'you catch more flies with honey' but I proved my mother wrong on that saying by showing her what a lump of fresh dogshit could do Siggy. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Ardith Mifflin Mecha Fiend Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,416	01-21-2005 20:31 From: Bran Brodie That is _a_ bug. Check the building forum if you don't know any. You call it a bug. I call it basic mathematics.
Rickard Roentgen Renaissance Punk Join date: 4 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,869	01-21-2005 20:34 From: Bran Brodie That is _a_ bug. Check the building forum if you don't know any. lol no that's not a bug, that's just your rotation getting converted to quaternions and then back into degrees for display and since you can represent rotations in degrees multiple ways it shows up slightly differently. It effects nothing, deal with it. the real bug with rotations is when they slip 0.02 or so. And yes I already know the bugs. just seeing if you actually had a clue. _____________________
Francis Chung This sentence no verb. Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 918	01-21-2005 20:38 From: Derek Jones Everything I have requested to be fixed and/or added has been. EVERYTHING. Can I report my bugs to you? I haven't even gotten a "yeah we're looking into this bug" reply for a while. _____________________ -- ~If you lived here, you would be home by now~
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 20:41 From: Siggy Romulus Gotta side with monkey boy on this one.... Every bug report I've put in has been replied to within 48 hours - every bug I bug reported was fixed within 2 updates.. I'd say if it's on the list - who knows what the priority is on that list though -- maybe if you asked (civilly -- I won't even suggest politely) they might let you know. Siggy. From you and monkey boy I get the impression that bug reports from certain SLers are fixed but for most of us they are trashed. Yes, I have politely reported bugs. I have _never_ received _any_ reply or had them fixed. I basically gave up SL except on rare occasions because of the building bugs, would drop it completely if it weren't for my better half wanting to continue. We pay a fee to play, LL is not doing us a favor, we are the customer--it seems that many SLers have that concept reversed. For my over $1000+/year I do not feel that it is asking to much for a reply to my bug reports, just a little dialog, just a small indication that Philip gives a shit. I pay less for my web hosting and get service, emails answered, professionalism. Since I get none of this from Philip's SL I have gotten rather past being civil--sorry. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Derek Jones SL's Second Oldest Monkey Join date: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 668	01-21-2005 20:46 From: Bran Brodie From you and monkey boy I get the impression that bug reports from certain SLers are fixed but for most of us they are trashed. Yes, I have politely reported bugs. I have _never_ received _any_ reply or had them fixed. I basically gave up SL except on rare occasions because of the building bugs, would drop it completely if it weren't for my better half wanting to continue. We pay a fee to play, LL is not doing us a favor, we are the customer--it seems that many SLers have that concept reversed. For my over $1000+/year I do not feel that it is asking to much for a reply to my bug reports, just a little dialog, just a small indication that Philip gives a shit. I pay less for my web hosting and get service, emails answered, professionalism. Since I get none of this from Philip's SL I have gotten rather past being civil--sorry. I wouldn't judge the priorities of Linden Labs without first understanding what they go through. In the last few weeks, they've had a string of bad luck with the Second Life servers. They've been faced with a tough descision in the last two months on whether or not to fix Second Life to the point that it is usable or answer every single bug report they recieve. If you and everyone else in Second Life sent a bug report, do they have the capacity to handle those many requests? No. Before you judge them, please consider the fact that they've came in during the holidays to fix bugs and errors and are usually working late into the night so you can enjoy Second Life. Bran, you obviously take what you have for granted. _____________________ The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one
Tarson Opel Registered User Join date: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 29	01-21-2005 20:50 From: Bran Brodie Dear Philip: ..... In the words of Devlin Gallant MINOR ALERT!!!!!!!
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	01-21-2005 20:52 From: Bran Brodie Because it is a joke perpertrated by Philip? Knock knock. Who's there? BROKEN BUILD BUGS! BROKEN BUILD BUGS! HAHAHHA. ... LF _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
Ardith Mifflin Mecha Fiend Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,416	01-21-2005 20:53 From: Bran Brodie From you and monkey boy I get the impression that bug reports from certain SLers are fixed but for most of us they are trashed. Yes, I have politely reported bugs. I have _never_ received _any_ reply or had them fixed. I basically gave up SL except on rare occasions because of the building bugs, would drop it completely if it weren't for my better half wanting to continue. We pay a fee to play, LL is not doing us a favor, we are the customer--it seems that many SLers have that concept reversed. For my over $1000+/year I do not feel that it is asking to much for a reply to my bug reports, just a little dialog, just a small indication that Philip gives a shit. I pay less for my web hosting and get service, emails answered, professionalism. Since I get none of this from Philip's SL I have gotten rather past being civil--sorry. Why do you keep referring to Philip specifically? Do you think he's got nothing better to do than to personally respond to every bit of correspondence? If you think that paying your paltry 1,000 dollars per year entitles you to make the CEO of LL your bitch, I think you might be in for a surprise.
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 21:01 From: Derek Jones I wouldn't judge the priorities of Linden Labs without first understanding what they go through. In the last few weeks, they've had a string of bad luck with the Second Life servers. They've been faced with a tough descision in the last two months on whether or not to fix Second Life to the point that it is usable or answer every single bug report they recieve. I'm sorry but LL bad design of their system is not my problem. My problem is paying LL every month, their problem is making it work.. From: Derek Jones or answer every single bug report they recieve. If you and everyone else in Second Life sent a bug report, do they have the capacity to handle those many requests? So, for my $1000+/year it would be to much to expect that they would answer several? And if they fixed the bugs there would be fewer bug reports. It really is a mind-set. Several years ago where I worked the developers had to respond to service problems 24/7. This meant that on average there were two calls per week between midnight and 6AM. After a few weeks I got tired of these calls, found the problems and fixed them. Not I can only wonder why none of the other half dozen developers had not fixed them, had put up with them for over a year. From: Derek Jones No. Before you judge them, please consider the fact that they've came in during the holidays to fix bugs and errors and are usually working late into the night so you can enjoy Second Life. I have worked every holiday you can name, not big deal there. For years I was in the commercial broadcast field, 24/7 service, been there, done that. Prepared for failures, handled them as they came along. Did I expect the listeners to thank me? No, it was my job From: Derek Jones Bran, you obviously take what you have for granted. No, I pay $100+/month, that is my part of the bargain. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 21:05 From: Ardith Mifflin Why do you keep referring to Philip specifically? Because he is the only person I know that has the power to make a decision to fix bugs. From: Ardith Mifflin Do you think he's got nothing better to do than to personally respond to every bit of correspondence? He nor anyone at LL has ever responded to any correspondence. I should expect for Philip to be concerned about the level of service LL supplies to it's users. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Tya Fallingbridge Proud Prim Whore Join date: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 790	01-21-2005 21:09 From: Bran Brodie Dear Philip: Fix the fucking build tools! From: someone You really have nerve...I hope your account gets banned _____________________
Lance LeFay is a Thug Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 1,488	01-21-2005 21:12 And I thought alby was the lowest form of existance =( _____________________ "Hoochie Hair is high on my list" - Andrew Linden "Adorable is 'they pay me to say you are cute'" -Barnesworth Anubis
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 21:14 From: Tya Fallingbridge You really have nerve...QUOTE]Thank you! From: I hope your account gets banned[/QUOTE I wish! But like they say, Philip is laughing all the way to the bank with my money. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
Tya Fallingbridge Proud Prim Whore Join date: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 790	01-21-2005 21:15 From: Bran Brodie I wish! But like they say, Philip is laughing all the way to the bank with my money. I would to if someone talked to me like that... _____________________
Bran Brodie Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 134	01-21-2005 21:16 From: Lance LeFay And I thought alby was the lowest form of existance =( Wrong, it's Philip--for taking our money, using our builds to sell SL and refusing to fix the building bugs. _____________________ Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.

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Dear Philip: Fix the (edited) build tools!