Second Life Forums Archive - Anyone else experiencing severe framerate drops?(1.8.4)

AJ DaSilva

woz ere

Join date: 15 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,993

03-01-2006 16:30

From: Cocoanut Cookie

Where did they announce that? I just wasted a bunch of time trying to figure out if it was my browser or something.

coco

There was an announcement in the announcements forum saying they were going temporarily. Can't find the post about the specific forums being disabled and that, but I definately remember reading it.

Dakind Pixel

Disturbed User

Join date: 26 Jan 2006

Posts: 51

03-01-2006 16:36

Thank You Torley!! =))

Nathan Stewart

Registered User

Join date: 2 Feb 2005

Posts: 1,039

03-01-2006 16:38

A new viewer is available, relog to download

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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

03-01-2006 16:39

Crap, my "day or two" estimate was off-base and too long!

From: Karen Linden

An optional viewer update has been released to resolve bugs found in 1.8.4.6.

The original release notes say that HUD objects are not shown in snapshots. This is no longer true. When HUDs were introduced, many residents wanted the HUD to show in snapshots without having to turn on the UI.

When investigating the fix to the nametags and text showing in screenshots, we found that the HUD could be displayed in snapshots without having the UI turned on. We have enabled this feature for now. If you don't want your HUD to show in a screen shot, simply detach it for the duration of the capture.

Release Notes for Second Life 1.8.4(7) Mar 1, 2006
===========================================
* Shiny objects are once again selectable from all angles
* Toruses with animated textures no longer affect FPS
* Snapshots can once again be taken without showing text or nametags

Second Life 1.8.4.7 optional viewer update release March 1, 2006

GET IT NOW WHILE IT'S PIPING HOT!!!

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AJ DaSilva

woz ere

Join date: 15 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,993

03-01-2006 16:39

From: Nathan Stewart

A new viewer is available, relog to download

Man, that was the fastest week I've ever experienced.

JR Breed

Registered User

Join date: 17 Jan 2006

Posts: 49

03-01-2006 16:45

Thank you so much!! =)

AJ DaSilva

woz ere

Join date: 15 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,993

03-01-2006 16:51

Damn. What're people gonna fuss about now?

I suggest we start a conspiracy that LL put the bugs in there on purpose and had a client ready to release to make them look good when, in actual fact, they've been sitting eating pie all afternoon.

Zodiakos Absolute

With a a dash of lemon.

Join date: 6 Jun 2005

Posts: 282

03-01-2006 17:15

It actually fixed it. O.O

Doc Nielsen

Fallen...

Join date: 13 Apr 2005

Posts: 1,059

03-01-2006 17:17

OK, thanks for the quick fix, I'm nearly up to my old frame rate.

HOWEVER, textures, bizarrely ones nearby, not distant ones, simply aren't loading fully, I'm still getting a lo rez blur. Even mousing over doesn't force them to load properly. Surely textures 5m away should load in under 10 minutes? Like they did a few hours ago?

SO - something's still broken.

The remaining question of course is: HOW did such a severely flawed 'update' make it through whatever passes for LL quality control?

EXTRA - even LAND textures aren't loading correctly, three sims now and the ground is a featurless blur!

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All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?

Selador Cellardoor

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Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

03-01-2006 17:35

Well done, Lindens.

Great job.

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Silas Sachs

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Join date: 21 Oct 2005

Posts: 23

03-01-2006 17:42

Thanks for the quick fix!

Cocoanut Cookie

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Join date: 26 Jan 2006

Posts: 1,741

03-01-2006 19:05

From: AJ DaSilva

There was an announcement in the announcements forum saying they were going temporarily. Can't find the post about the specific forums being disabled and that, but I definately remember reading it.

Thanks, I'll take your word for it, cause I can't find it either. Glad to hear it's only temporary!

coco

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AJ DaSilva

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Join date: 15 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,993

03-01-2006 19:08

From: Cocoanut Cookie

Thanks, I'll take your word for it, cause I can't find it either. Glad to hear it's only temporary!

coco

The announcement in the announcements forum seems to indicate it was all attachments that had been disabled, I'm not sure if this might actually be the way things will be for the forseable future...

Shatara Seifert

Registered User

Join date: 13 Oct 2005

Posts: 1

03-01-2006 20:00

I'm still having this problem, though I was having it before today's update...

FPS drops at seemingly random intervals, often when working with the camera, but not always...

Fast Timers shows 'Image Decode' spiking up to ~700 - ~1300 at seeming random, and 'render geometry' up to ~1200 when using alt-click to focus the camera...

...occasional spikes to ~400 for 'network'...

I know my specs are low, but it was fine a few weeks ago, and reducing draw distance/LoD doesnt do much to get rid of the spiking...

Sansarya Caligari

BLEH!

Join date: 25 Apr 2005

Posts: 1,206

Anyone else still having issues?

03-01-2006 20:05

I didn't even get to download the "new" version before the fix (1.8.4.7) was released. So, got home, dl'd the fixed version of SL, and my fps is between .7 and spikes to a high of 4.1

Yesterday I had fps between 20-30 on the ground, 60+ in the sky. Crossing sim borders is wacky (I fly into the ground uncontrollably). I've crashed multiple times.

Talked to LiveHelp (a real Linden) who said she doesn't know what's wrong and maybe ask here in Technical Issues in this thread...and email [email=support@lindenlabs.com]support@lindenlabs.com[/email] (umm, they still haven't got back to me on that 1.7 problem I had. My confidence in that avenue is completely shot.)

System stats:
Dell XPS MX6051
Intel Pentium M processor 2.26 GHz
2.00 GB of RAM
Nvidia GEForce Go 7800 GTX
MS Windows XP Version 2002/SP 2

I've uninstalled, reinstalled (twice) and cleaned cache. Ran a disk clean and a defrag. Any other advice besides waiting a few weeks?

Vlad Bjornson

Virtual Gardener

Join date: 11 Nov 2005

Posts: 650

03-01-2006 22:18

sweet. Thanks for the quick fix - oh powers that be!

Everything seems fine on my client now. In fact, the overall expereince seems a little smoother and more consistent now.

And thanks for keeping us informed, Torley. I hope that the min-update works as well for the others that are experiencing problems.

Margot Abattoir

Senior Member

Join date: 15 Jul 2004

Posts: 234

Torley should update Lee!!

03-02-2006 01:54

TY for the timeFRAME fix, Torley..and TY to the codesmith sleuths who did the work tres fast ~

Anyone else experiencing severe framerate drops?(1.8.4)
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-01-2006 16:30 From: Cocoanut Cookie Where did they announce that? I just wasted a bunch of time trying to figure out if it was my browser or something. coco There was an announcement in the announcements forum saying they were going temporarily. Can't find the post about the specific forums being disabled and that, but I definately remember reading it.
Dakind Pixel Disturbed User Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 51	03-01-2006 16:36 Thank You Torley!! =))
Nathan Stewart Registered User Join date: 2 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	03-01-2006 16:38 A new viewer is available, relog to download _____________________
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-01-2006 16:39 Crap, my "day or two" estimate was off-base and too long! From: Karen Linden An optional viewer update has been released to resolve bugs found in 1.8.4.6. The original release notes say that HUD objects are not shown in snapshots. This is no longer true. When HUDs were introduced, many residents wanted the HUD to show in snapshots without having to turn on the UI. When investigating the fix to the nametags and text showing in screenshots, we found that the HUD could be displayed in snapshots without having the UI turned on. We have enabled this feature for now. If you don't want your HUD to show in a screen shot, simply detach it for the duration of the capture. Release Notes for Second Life 1.8.4(7) Mar 1, 2006 =========================================== * Shiny objects are once again selectable from all angles * Toruses with animated textures no longer affect FPS * Snapshots can once again be taken without showing text or nametags Second Life 1.8.4.7 optional viewer update release March 1, 2006 GET IT NOW WHILE IT'S PIPING HOT!!! _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-01-2006 16:39 From: Nathan Stewart A new viewer is available, relog to download Man, that was the fastest week I've ever experienced.
JR Breed Registered User Join date: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 49	03-01-2006 16:45 Thank you so much!! =)
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-01-2006 16:51 Damn. What're people gonna fuss about now? I suggest we start a conspiracy that LL put the bugs in there on purpose and had a client ready to release to make them look good when, in actual fact, they've been sitting eating pie all afternoon.
Zodiakos Absolute With a a dash of lemon. Join date: 6 Jun 2005 Posts: 282	03-01-2006 17:15 It actually fixed it. O.O
Doc Nielsen Fallen... Join date: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,059	03-01-2006 17:17 OK, thanks for the quick fix, I'm nearly up to my old frame rate. HOWEVER, textures, bizarrely ones nearby, not distant ones, simply aren't loading fully, I'm still getting a lo rez blur. Even mousing over doesn't force them to load properly. Surely textures 5m away should load in under 10 minutes? Like they did a few hours ago? SO - something's still broken. The remaining question of course is: HOW did such a severely flawed 'update' make it through whatever passes for LL quality control? EXTRA - even LAND textures aren't loading correctly, three sims now and the ground is a featurless blur! _____________________ All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	03-01-2006 17:35 Well done, Lindens. Great job. _____________________
Silas Sachs Registered User Join date: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 23	03-01-2006 17:42 Thanks for the quick fix!
Cocoanut Cookie Registered User Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,741	03-01-2006 19:05 From: AJ DaSilva There was an announcement in the announcements forum saying they were going temporarily. Can't find the post about the specific forums being disabled and that, but I definately remember reading it. Thanks, I'll take your word for it, cause I can't find it either. Glad to hear it's only temporary! coco _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	03-01-2006 19:08 From: Cocoanut Cookie Thanks, I'll take your word for it, cause I can't find it either. Glad to hear it's only temporary! coco The announcement in the announcements forum seems to indicate it was all attachments that had been disabled, I'm not sure if this might actually be the way things will be for the forseable future...
Shatara Seifert Registered User Join date: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1	03-01-2006 20:00 I'm still having this problem, though I was having it before today's update... FPS drops at seemingly random intervals, often when working with the camera, but not always... Fast Timers shows 'Image Decode' spiking up to ~700 - ~1300 at seeming random, and 'render geometry' up to ~1200 when using alt-click to focus the camera... ...occasional spikes to ~400 for 'network'... I know my specs are low, but it was fine a few weeks ago, and reducing draw distance/LoD doesnt do much to get rid of the spiking...
Sansarya Caligari BLEH! Join date: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,206	Anyone else still having issues? 03-01-2006 20:05 I didn't even get to download the "new" version before the fix (1.8.4.7) was released. So, got home, dl'd the fixed version of SL, and my fps is between .7 and spikes to a high of 4.1 Yesterday I had fps between 20-30 on the ground, 60+ in the sky. Crossing sim borders is wacky (I fly into the ground uncontrollably). I've crashed multiple times. Talked to LiveHelp (a real Linden) who said she doesn't know what's wrong and maybe ask here in Technical Issues in this thread...and email [email=support@lindenlabs.com]support@lindenlabs.com[/email] (umm, they still haven't got back to me on that 1.7 problem I had. My confidence in that avenue is completely shot.) System stats: Dell XPS MX6051 Intel Pentium M processor 2.26 GHz 2.00 GB of RAM Nvidia GEForce Go 7800 GTX MS Windows XP Version 2002/SP 2 I've uninstalled, reinstalled (twice) and cleaned cache. Ran a disk clean and a defrag. Any other advice besides waiting a few weeks?
Vlad Bjornson Virtual Gardener Join date: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 650	03-01-2006 22:18 sweet. Thanks for the quick fix - oh powers that be! Everything seems fine on my client now. In fact, the overall expereince seems a little smoother and more consistent now. And thanks for keeping us informed, Torley. I hope that the min-update works as well for the others that are experiencing problems.
Margot Abattoir Senior Member Join date: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 234	Torley should update Lee!! 03-02-2006 01:54 TY for the timeFRAME fix, Torley..and TY to the codesmith sleuths who did the work tres fast ~

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