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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
11-09-2005 10:56
From: Richie Waves
if Im going to Sluniverse forums to get bullied by "forum in crowd" u can all fuck right off..


I invited you to come discuss your views. I want to understand them. And after flinging about accusations of filth and perversion for a virtual act between two consenting adults I'd like to hear your justifications and exactly how and where those lines are drawn., as I said before. But this is not the place. As we've already been told.

Personally I have no intention of bullying you. Can't really speak for anyone else, but then they have every right to express their opinions too. But you're a big boy. I'm sure you can handle it :)
Zodiakos Absolute
With a a dash of lemon.
Join date: 6 Jun 2005
Posts: 282
11-09-2005 11:36
These are the same kind of people that somehow think it's okay to police the bedroom and decide what is okay for two consenting adults to do, yet when people 'get all up in their business', are the first ones to complain.

Basically, I'll distill the argument for you: 'I want what I want, and that's that, regardless of whether or not it grabs other people's rights by the unmentionables and stomps unceremoniously on them, bakes them at 450 degrees, and then tosses them in the shrubs.'

Do a search and replace of the words 'age-play' in the original post with 'gay', or 'jew', or 'black', or even 'christian'. Those things can all be 'gut-wrenchingly horrible' to different people. You can even use the same arguments on those people: 'If you don't think that's nasty and perverted, I don't know wtf is wrong with you'. It's all the same. It's not giving a reason, it's simple back-peddling and rhetoric, and it might do you good to do some introspection and discover why two consenting adults doing something that you might not like, but in their own privacy, bothers you so.

Oh, and dressing sexy causes babies, which is arguably the leading cause of hunger. I'm going to make a list of all the people that dress sexy, and post them on a website. That'll show them!

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The part of the Community Standards document that says "Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Lives" could be interpreted as meaning that residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Lives.


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Kiamat Dusk
Protest Warrior
Join date: 30 Sep 2004
Posts: 1,525
Stand and be counted
11-09-2005 11:39
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
Also a public list of furries with dicks, BDSM folks, and Gorean culture followers please.

kthx


Gorean, BDSM, Vampire here.

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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
11-09-2005 11:40
From: Zodiakos Absolute
Oh, and dressing sexy causes babies, which is arguably the leading cause of hunger. I'm going to make a list of all the people that dress sexy, and post them on a website. That'll show them!


LMFAO! I like you already :D
Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
11-09-2005 11:41
From: Kiamat Dusk
Gorean, BDSM, Vampire here.


Not bad. But I bet there's a Gorean BDSM Vampire furry with a dick out there somewhere
Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
11-09-2005 11:42
From: Zodiakos Absolute
These are the same kind of people that somehow think it's okay to police the bedroom and decide what is okay for two consenting adults to do, yet when people 'get all up in their business', are the first ones to complain.

Basically, I'll distill the argument for you: 'I want what I want, and that's that, regardless of whether or not it grabs other people's rights by the unmentionables and stomps unceremoniously on them, bakes them at 450 degrees, and then tosses them in the shrubs.'

Do a search and replace of the words 'age-play' in the original post with 'gay', or 'jew', or 'black', or even 'christian'. Those things can all be 'gut-wrenchingly horrible' to different people. You can even use the same arguments on those people: 'If you don't think that's nasty and perverted, I don't know wtf is wrong with you'. It's all the same. It's not giving a reason, it's simple back-peddling and rhetoric, and it might do you good to do some introspection and discover why two consenting adults doing something that you might not like, but in their own privacy, bothers you so.

Oh, and dressing sexy causes babies, which is arguably the leading cause of hunger. I'm going to make a list of all the people that dress sexy, and post them on a website. That'll show them!



Doh... Lies! All lies!


VERY well put.
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
11-09-2005 11:42
From: Kris Ritter
Not bad. But I bet there's a Gorean BDSM Vampire furry with a dick out there somewhere


Oh I LOVE highlight transparent.
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Daz Honey
Fine, Fine Artist
Join date: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 599
11-09-2005 11:43
From: Kris Ritter
Not bad. But I bet there's a Gorean BDSM Vampire furry with a dick out there somewhere
I think I saw a GBDSMFWD Slingo event advertised the other day...
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
11-09-2005 11:56
Gay, jew, black, christian, age play....

>.< seriosly.. what are you people defending here?

you people really want to attract and make acceptable this behavior fine by me.. just dont give me shit for voicing my disgust..
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
11-09-2005 11:58
From: Richie Waves
Gay, jew, black, christian, age play....

>.< seriosly.. what are you people defending here?

you people really want to attract and make acceptable this behavior fine by me.. just dont give me shit for voicing my disgust..


Then don't give US shit for voicing ours.

Everyone, including you, are entitled to their opinion, noone is disputing that, we just have to all accept that they aren't all going to be the same as our own, doesn't make those that dont have the same as yours perverts. You tar all ppl with the same brush? Hardly fair.
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
11-09-2005 12:02
oh Im sorry for my irrational assumption that all people that fantasise sex with children are perverts... >.> seriosly I'm leaving it at this.. Ive stated my point and I really shouldnt have to.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
11-09-2005 12:06
From: Richie Waves
Gay, jew, black, christian, age play....

>.< seriosly.. what are you people defending here?

you people really want to attract and make acceptable this behavior fine by me.. just dont give me shit for voicing my disgust..


you do love to generalise so you can throw insults, huh richie? who are "you people"? Presumably the as yet undefined filthy perverts?

When have I or as far as I can see anyone here condoned "this behavior"? I don't recall having expressed my view at all, in fact. All I've done so far is ask you to explain your views for me. Like I said twice now, I want to understand what is so abhorrent about a virtual act between two consenting adults and exactly how and where those lines are drawn. But like I also said before, this is not the place.
Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
11-09-2005 12:12
From: Kris Ritter
you do love to generalise so you can throw insults, huh richie? who are "you people"? Presumably the as yet undefined filthy perverts?

When have I or as far as I can see anyone here condoned "this behavior"? I don't recall having expressed my view at all, in fact. All I've done so far is ask you to explain your views for me. Like I said twice now, I want to understand what is so abhorrent about a virtual act between two consenting adults and exactly how and where those lines are drawn. But like I also said before, this is not the place.


the "you people" kris is aimed at the people defending this behavior.. so it should be quite obvious who I mean..
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
11-09-2005 12:14
From: Richie Waves
oh Im sorry for my irrational assumption that all people that fantasise sex with children are perverts... >.> seriosly I'm leaving it at this.. Ive stated my point and I really shouldnt have to.


Maybe you missed the bit where I said yeah, i've been through that, I know how sick it is/they are.

No=one is saying its right, no=one is saying its acceptable, ppl are saying its not their business and/or place to judge what 2 consenting adults do, that is hardly defending paedos is it now?
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Daz Honey
Fine, Fine Artist
Join date: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 599
11-09-2005 12:19
From: Richie Waves
oh Im sorry for my irrational assumption that all people that fantasise sex with children are perverts... >.> seriosly I'm leaving it at this.. Ive stated my point and I really shouldnt have to.
Richie, you are NOT a psychologist and do NOT know that people who engage in age-play are fantasising about having sex with children.

It is an easy group of people to pick on as in your mind it all is wrong, even thinking about it is wrong. You cannot regulate what people think or they cease to be human. Do you advocate stopping people from dreaming when they sleep lest they dream something illegal?

NOW, remember when you were a child, did you, in your innocence, "play doctor"? was that wrong? perhaps age-players are re-living a time when life was less complicated, perhaps it is a regression to a time when their innocence and curiosity led to things like playing doctor (god know I liked looking at vaginas long before I had sexual thoughts).

But I am not qualified to figure out why age-players engage in what they do, (I am not one myself btw) my point is that it is wrong to make it black and white as you don't really have a clue.

To give you the benefit of the doubt, I would say you are simply concerned that age-players may be gearing up to molest children in real life, to that I say we should be alert to any age-player who hints about RL sex. That is crossing the line.
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
11-09-2005 12:21
great post, Daz. pretty much mirrors my own thoughts on the matter.
Daz Honey
Fine, Fine Artist
Join date: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 599
11-09-2005 12:23
From: Kris Ritter
great post, Daz. pretty much mirrors my own thoughts on the matter.
thank you Kris, freedom must be defended or the thought police will squash our humanity...
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Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 649
11-09-2005 12:37
From: Kris Ritter
Not bad. But I bet there's a Gorean BDSM Vampire furry with a dick out there somewhere


Darn I'm Old Gaurd not Gorean.
Krazzora Zaftig
Do you have my marbles?
Join date: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 649
11-09-2005 12:39
Has aged play and would cut off a man's privates with a spork if they touched a child and would use a vaginal pear (medieval torture device to expand human cavities) on the women that do the same.
ArchTx Edo
Mystic/Artist/Architect
Join date: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,993
11-09-2005 14:41
From: Eggy Lippmann
Yes. On top of that, they should put a little heart icon on the map for every couple currently engaged in cybersex.



But then we wouldn't be able to see the map!!

Love is all we need....What the world needs now is love sweet love... etc...etc...
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Tcoz Bach
Tyrell Victim
Join date: 10 Dec 2002
Posts: 973
11-10-2005 11:19
I'd like to thank you all for giving this post 10 pages and 2.5kish views. I'm still one of the hottest posters around.

And I accept your thanks for giving you a venue to do so. Oddly enough, you probably think it has no effect.

Now back to your...well, whatever it is you do in SL. This post is closed by yer lord and majesty, namely, me.

Well done my subjects!
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
11-10-2005 11:21
From: Tcoz Bach
I'd like to thank you all for giving this post 10 pages and 2.5kish views. I'm still one of the hottest posters around.

And I accept your thanks for giving you a venue to do so. Oddly enough, you probably think it has no effect.

Now back to your...well, whatever it is you do in SL. This post is closed by yer lord and majesty, namely, me.


Well done my subjects!


This post is now offically reopened, by someone holier than thou!

Kthxbai <3

You're not so loyal subject
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Sierra Divine
CEO of URBAN FLAVA
Join date: 4 Dec 2004
Posts: 187
11-10-2005 11:27
From: Tcoz Bach
I'd like to thank you all for giving this post 10 pages and 2.5kish views. I'm still one of the hottest posters around.

And I accept your thanks for giving you a venue to do so. Oddly enough, you probably think it has no effect.

Now back to your...well, whatever it is you do in SL. This post is closed by yer lord and majesty, namely, me.

Well done my subjects!



ummm Ewwww, stank :P lol
Joseph Proudfoot
Proud Tsalagi
Join date: 2 Sep 2004
Posts: 234
11-10-2005 15:48
From: Tcoz Bach
Ah, so you're one of those. Enough to put you on ignore forever...done! Far be it from me to go after an easy target.

Anway, back to the point...

Let's get those deviant avatar lists out on the Internet for all to see!!! It's endorsed by LL as "legal", after all. Give people an idea of what's really going on here.

Oh I think the inevitable third page satisfies me. I leave you, my subjects, to it. You may all go about your business, it's been amusing.

Diane, you are quite mistaken in a great deal of what you say. If I want to categorize Avatars and publish those lists, or screenshot them, or post their locations, I have been told by Linden it is legal, because the info is public. People and land scanners are perfectly legit.

You appear unaware of my crusade AGAINST this. I'm THE most outspoken person in SL on the topic. But what I propose in my OP is perfectly legit. ANY public info, of ANY kind, that can be observed or tracked in game, can be published. ANY AND ALL. So if I see somebody banging a little girl avatar or engaging in Age Play, I can screenshot it, blog it, and publish it. Go ask a Linden.

Until next time!


The OP has outlived it's potential usefulness, and as such, should be deleted.
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Zodiakos Absolute
With a a dash of lemon.
Join date: 6 Jun 2005
Posts: 282
11-10-2005 19:08
From: someone
This post is now offically reopened, by someone holier than thou!


I'm not usually this immature, but I just have to say... Ouch? :D

On a different note - the wonderful thing about defending someone's freedom of expression (NOT their freedom to jump the bones of some poor innocent child), immediately lumps you in with the child porn defenders (or even, *gasp*, the child molesters themselves, if the person is brazen enough). This isn't about defending someone's right to reach out and molest someone, it's about the the assumption of the original poster, and several later ones, that age-players are child molesters.

First of all, it's my guess that if they were... they'd be on the teen grid, not on the adult grid. Second of all, unless you have some sort of factual federal and/or clinically sponsored statistic of child molesters that shows that any sort of percentage of them at all were involved in the sort of adult consenting age-play that takes place on second life, I'd rather assume they were innocent until proven guilty.

And besides... your clothes are.... suggestive. *scribbles notes*

Okay, so the horse has probably been beaten so thoroughly that he's now ready to ship to the glue factory. I had to give my 3 cents. :D
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