100 People in a Single Sim

Hahaha, camping chairs.

It's going to be hilarious when this one falls apart.

You know, I'd love to think thats going to happen. However, being a trend which is:

1. Contributing to the overall monotony of SL.
2. Encouraging players to use sl as solely a money making tool.
3. Rewarding uncreative, but well off land owners.

Seems to me like something that LL is sure to step in and throw all its support at. Just the kind of thing they seem to like to get behind.

i wouldn't worry about it. LL is not giving away 420k USD in dwell awards to cover this ludicrous scheme

Indeed. When the traffic and dwelloper incentives get cut thanks to this idiocy, there's going to be some very interesting outcry. Probably by the very people who poisoned the well.

Yay drama!

both L$ and USD dwell awards are based on your share of the total dwell pie. the total is based on population, not on one guys dwell points. this one was never going to really get off the ground.

Collecting rat tails is fun ; when done in group. SL is fun, but in a non-rat-tail way.


Some people are dumb or thoroughly without imagination it seems.

Lets see

Lindens make Linden Dollars

People earn Dwell

Lindens pay Private Sim owners for their dwell

Enabran... Is there a problem???????

I don't think so.

Well, if you want to insult them, that's fine. But if you do, they'll just turn around and walk out the door, taking their wallets with them.



Using camping chairs as a pure money making tool? If there was somewhere some syndicate or other which was running multiple accounts all dominating chairs and farming 24/7 then I could believe that, but otherwise I really doubt it. And why in the world would LL want SL to be "monotonous"?

I decided to look for myself and walk around the entire block. With only 50(?) people in the sim, it was like wading through oatmeal - even in the sections where I was the only one present. I can't image what it is like with 100. I would definately look over all the scripts with an eye towards optimizing them. But then again with that many people, there may not be a lot that can done.

Let's see:

Magnum has Lindens taken away by no more bonuses being paid.

Magnum earns nothing.

Magnum defends those that add nothing and take everything.

Magnum...are you fruit-loop?

I thought so.

EDIT: Ah, hold on, do you partake in camping chairs yourself? Full disclosure might be good here!

it's 50 cents an hour! do you need another hint?

i'll pay you double that to follow my av around and be my yes man whenever i'm inworld.

Just wondering; do you have the broadcast rights to Batman Begins? Otherwise, Warner Brothers might be a trifle mad if you're using their creative content for public exhibition for your own monetary gain.

As an aside, both times I've wandered by these camping chair places, there wasn't a single iota of conversation going on. This is after standing around for 15 minutes, observing.

Unless everyone was chatting away in IM, with their busy and AFK tags on, I think it's safe to say that camping chairs aren't much of a social impetus.

You all are probably going to disagree but I don't think some uses of camping chairs are necessarily a bad thing. In our case we have 20 of them set up where we occasionally host games. If we are not hosting a game they are turned off. We put them there as a sort of thank you to the people who have been so loyal in gaming with us.

We have an aditional 10 chairs in our movie area these are sometimes on and somtimes off (depending on my finances at the time). Once again a thank you and an opportunity to give a little back.

For that matter we have a money tree.

IN our case the simple reality is we spend far more than we can ever expect Dwell and bonuses to cover. We do it as a little lagniappe for the community.

I don't have anything against people who install camping chairs.

I have something against the situation that's left people wanting to use camping chairs.

I actually agree with you. I was one of the many who seriously worried for new players just starting out when stipend bonuses were first cut and slowly phazed out. It was the one place a beginner could get a little cash to function with while they learned other skills to make money.

I think that the cut in rating stipend bonuses has helped newbies. Those who joined after ratings went up to L$25 got a double whammy of a) having lower ratings themselves and b) being affected by the inflation caused by the bonuses paid to folks with 213/102/312 rating sets. The loss of stipend bonuses has at least gotten rid of the inflation problem.

Someone asked early on about how the av limit is set and why in some areas this is 40 or so, in a private estate (island) the land owner can set the limit to what they want its part of the estate tools, you can probably see the tool by clicking the world menu and the region/world option and its in the general tab, but note you wont be able to see any information for an island you dont own except for the texture tab.

Its good they are getting 100 people, the sim if not experiencing any bugs could probably handle more, we got a 107 in preview on a class 3 machine, before we ran out of people, i would guess the sim is very stressed though sending out textures in even the normal way to avatars but it could still hold the people im not sure if there is an anticipated limit i guess they have done some calculations

All sounds too good to be true doesnt it, well yes the problem when the av count in a sim get this high is that the users client gets very stressed and there gets a point when your graphics fps actually starts dropping not because its having to draw so many objects/av's but because the cpu cant process all the information about the av's in time, even overclocking the graphics card doesnt improve framerate. So really does mean the cpu is trying to work 100% and therefore lower end systems will lag bad if not crash, maybe not due to the client but various reasons including overheating/voltage issues. This of course can affect high end systems but they are generally built with better quality power supplies and cooling

I think there's a problem with any piece of software that can cause an non-overclocked CPU to overheat.

All cpus will overheat without cooling even if run idle, the problem with most low end system is to cut costs they are usually fitted with cheap fans/power supplies that combined with systems that are older where dust and other objects like hair can get sucked into the fins of the cooler can block airflow through the cooler reducing the effeciency of cooling even further, higher end systems usually have higher power fans with better designed heatsinks, that extra airflow usually prevents most dust from collecting around them and a high quality power supply will keep the motherboard/cpu voltages supplied with stable power, whereas on cheapy supplies they may dip the voltages as cpu usages gets high which may cause some system instability across various systems like the buses/bridges

I cannot see how being one of a 100 avies in a sim will enhance my SLexperience. I lose the flow of the conversation once double digits are hit, it's tough on my computer, and you can only talk about lag in terms of degree. So I ponder the prioritization of increased sim capacity relative to LL's stated goals. Platform comes to mind. I'm thinking that presenting Ice Dragon's traffic numbers would be a better sell to a company interested in markets than to show them empty sims filled with artistic, wonderful builds. I think LL awards developer incentives for a reason.

Hmmm...new to this forum, somewhat new to SL

I've been to IceDragon's place many times and I never saw 100 camping chairs there. I would have to say at the very most there are...12 to 16 actual camping chairs and about the same number of "dancing pads". Unless he has them scattered around other areas of his site...but I've hovered over his entire site and never saw all these chairs everyone is talking about.

As for the idea of having the chairs. For those of us who are not land owners there is not a ton of ways to make money in SL. The money chairs help out alittle. I do agree that it hinders socializing somewhat....but perhaps there should be other incentives for non land owners to socialize, have fun and still be able to make a few bucks. It's no fun in SL being broke and not everyone has the time or the money to get into owning land.

- Spend 60 second buying some L$ on Lindex and by doing so actually contribute something to the world instead of just leeching from it? Just a thought.

Credit: Chrischun Fassbinder

Too bad you can't know how people earned their money before buying your stuff so you can only sell to the right kind of people.

What's a camp chair?