I declare this thread to be open discourse

Neither. They're totally 'Grandma Utz's Handcooked Potato Chips'. They have no shame as they list the ingredients as 'Potatoes, salt, lard' and nothing else. I'm awaiting the PM so I can send this bag of chips to a land far away.

I once had "Cheddar Beer"-flavored Kettle Chips. They are my favorite chips in the world. They aren't available in many places, which makes me sad

I once had "Cheddar Beer"-flavored Kettle Chips. They are my favorite chips in the world. They aren't available in many places, which makes me sad

so like... are robin and jeska saying these things, too? do they agree with you? did they say something relevant and i just missed it?

of course many responses will be of a positive nature, ResMods or LL wouldn't want to come ni and say, "you're right, everything is terrible. DOOM DOOM DOOM!" but just because there's a lot of focus on positives to try to further to community of SL/LL, it doesn't mean that the negatives are ignored. quite the opposite.

think about all the original complaints about the program.. transparency, consistency, the release of the list of ResMods before confirming them, the question of the use of profanity, ARs having info about the one reporting, lack of knowledge of job before starting..

every single one of these have been addressed and fixed to some degree or another.

transparency - a good amount of information has been made public knowledge and there exists attempts to continue to do so and to increase said transparency.

consistency - i'm not saying there aren't some wrinkles in the fabric, but the ResMods have been working at this since the beginning. when something isn't clear-cut, we have a thread (in the ResMod forum) to discuss what should be done and can acheive an answer together. there is also the Best Practices thread which is continually being added to which helps define some finer points for consistent moderation.

release of ResMod list - as of Phase 2, this list is confirmed before being released. so, we no longer will have the "hey, what is this? i didn't want this" reaction, which just looks sloppy to the community.

profanity - this is listed in Best Practices and has been defined communally in several places as well. it comes down to a simple basic rule: profanity is ok, but not when used to attack someone. the arguement of "this language is inappropriate for PG forums" can only be applied to tmies when someone is being attacked, not when profanity is used as a part of speech.

AR info - this was taken care of long ago. all identifying information was taken out and ResMods don't know where they come from. (this was requested by both the community as a whole AND by the ResMods themselves.)

job knowledge - it needs some tweaking, but now there exists a week-long training period for new ResMods to learn the ropes and thus ease into their roles. it wasn't a beaming success this time through, but it was a large step in the right direction and definitely helped in defining ResMod responsibilities.


now, with that said, can we truly say that everything but the positive has been ignored?

I had these chips for the first time a few days ago. I was skeptical, but they were really damn good! I've only seen the cheddar beer chips at one store here, myself.

This type of thing usually happens with me - I find some new food item I like in a store, and a few weeks later it is discontinued or no longer distributed here and I'm kicking myself for getting hooked on them in the first place.

Hope that doesn't happen with these.

i'm not sure what parts would need something official said about it, what i've notated are things that have happened.

I am not confident that every resmod will be able to step out of the prejudicice box.

I like the individual res mods/ I just don't like the programs implementation. SL needs a doscipline system that is less arebitrary and capricious as far as selective enforcement. The resmod program increses the number of moderators doing things more or less at random, and keeping the reasoning and the policy secret-it does not improve moderation practices.

To me it does not matter as much who does the moderation as long as we know what types of things are condidered violations. This touchy/feely "use your best judgement in light of the TOS" is not helpful.

The TOS goes to pains to define some standards and leaves others blank- we know calling someone a troll is categorically not a violation of the TOS and Calling them a "faggot f*cktard is. The problem is there is no other definintion. So If I end every post with "so and so is insane and needs psychological help" is that a personal attack or is it simple an erroneus statement of opinion. Not to mention that sometime people do things and get banned and other times they get warned, and a lot of times it looks like no mod, res or other wise does anything.

On top of this residents pursue thier own agendas and opinions, and I am not confident that every resmod will be able to step out of the prejudicice box. This is compounded by th fact that its a rotating position, so after a period of time, they will be tossed back into the general pop, and still have thier own agenda's and prejudices. In every other user-moderated forum I have been in, the modeerators are full time, and they are expected to disctance themselves from the discussions, especially heated ones. Your opinion becomes secondary to your duty when you are a resmod. This program does not adequately isolate the resmods.

well... ll wants to use subjective criteria for some of the forum guidelines... this will always be a problem... be the moderator res or linden.

You're entirely too naive, Jake. You can call a person a f*cktard all you want, or tell them to go f*ck themselves or whatever you want, really. Well, I don't know if YOU can, but I know some people can. While others - like me - get a bloody official warning for doing nothing.

Hey Alex! At the risk of taking this thread 'off topic', it's good to see you here - so glad you gave us somewhere that we can sit back and laugh about this stuff - ty!!

that's not what i was asking.

what i was asking was, "do robin, jeska, and torley agree with all the things you've been saying?"

do you know?

Robin and Jeska's statements don't even agree with each other.

Robin stated that the forums were PG so residents could have an area free of profanity. Jeska stated that profanity is in the eye of the beholder who wears blue plaid shirts every Tuesday, or something like that.

At least Cybin is trying.

You're entirely too naive, Jake. You can call a person a f*cktard all you want, or tell them to go f*ck themselves or whatever you want, really. Well, I don't know if YOU can, but I know some people can. While others - like me - get a bloody official warning for doing nothing.

coco

In other words, you got pwned by The Man?

"The fucking system is stupid"

Isn't this how athority is given in the real world?
It is amazing the type of people some cops are for example.

I always question athority personally.
But I know without it there would be chaos.