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Picabo Hedges
Second Life Resident
Join date: 12 Nov 2004
Posts: 262
03-29-2006 19:14
From: Memir Quinn
Different for me.

I had cause to contact them last eve over a matter of a automated attack drone left in one of the combat sims (Rausch) which was killing out of turn anything that came in sim in a hail of particles and fire effects, a constant stream. Called over LiveHelp, within five minutes Teeple Linden was there and offending object removed. So I guess I don't see this supposed lack of response nor do the majority of respondents to this thread....yours isn't the definitive experience, not even close. ^.^
Wow. Congrats. Obviously your experience IS the DEFINITIVE experience, eh? Because YOU say so? Ah, got it. Sorry. I forgot that you had the only claim to defining TRUTH and therefore all other opinions and experiences are valueless.

Oh wait. You said, "I guess". So, you're not even sure of that? Hmm. Interesting.
From: someone
Well, wouldn't be the first time someone being wrong on the forums, the point is they do listen and do respond.
Yep.. you're wrong ... as shown above. They respond if and when they choose. Period. End of story.
From: someone
So I'm getting pretty good "fucking" millage thanks
So you are getting good "sexual grindage"? Sounds to me like you need to look up the difference between mileage and millage... unless, perhaps, you are getting taxes paid to you based on your superfluous rhetoric while engaging in recreational or procreational activities of some sort.
Yasmine Menoptra
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Join date: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 52
03-29-2006 19:16
I Agree As Well ;)
Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
03-29-2006 19:24
From: Picabo Hedges
Wow. Congrats. Obviously your experience IS the DEFINITIVE experience, eh? Because YOU say so? Ah, got it. Sorry. I forgot that you had the only claim to defining TRUTH and therefore all other opinions and experiences are valueless.


Sorry? Talk about empty rhetoric hey? :rolleyes: I made that claim where? I merely fail to recognize your claim of the definitive experience with such qualifiers as,

From: someone
From: someone
Quote:
was there any reason you didn't call Live Help?


A truly pointless question considering that again and again it has been pointed out that Live Helpers ARE NOT Lindens, have no real authority and cannot solve interpersonal disputes between residents.


which was pointed out as false because Linden Liaisons do in fact receive LiveHelp IM's, to which was responded,

From: someone
Yet another thing for them to ignore I am sure.


yes, right as rain so far huh? :rolleyes: and further,

From: someone
I stand by my comment and opinion that it is/would have been pointless to have contacted Live Help in this situation.


or little gems like,

From: someone
They respond if and when they choose. Period. End of story.


My that sounds awfully definitive, yours is the final word and authority is it? Linden Liaisons do in fact respond to Live Help queries as quickly as possible, however not all Lindens in world are Liaisons and may not be in world for customer service issues (although most I've contacted do try to help regardless) therefore it'd be logical to presume that the best way to contact a Linden Liaison is via LiveHelp since that is the one channel that Liaisons monitor as opposed to going through find and looking up a random linden name whom may be a grid monkey or a programer and not a customer service grommet at all. So judging by the majority of the other posters yeah I'm fairly comfortable in the assertion that yours are (if even real) the rare exception not the rule.
Chri5 Somme
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Join date: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 204
03-31-2006 10:49
From: Susie Boffin
I get a little tired of "Lindens suck" type posts. In all of my time in SL I have requested a Linden's help many times and they have always responded immediately. Of course I was polite in my requests and very specific about what I wanted. Try that approach the next time. :)

Maybe wearing a short skirt helps too if it's a male Linden you are IMing.


maybe you get tired of the posts but maybe everyone does think that lindens do suck. If everyone is posting it then maybe that is saying something, people don't post for nothing.
Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
03-31-2006 11:12
Everyone is? Strange definition of 'everyone' that.

Least it wasn't as lame as a typo flame though. :rolleyes:
Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 478
03-31-2006 12:06
I hate both sides of the argument.

<soapbox>
It is uneducated, unrefined, and unkind to swear. It is revalatory of inferior upbringing(not necessarily meaning poor, some of the most well mannered people I have met in my life had so much less than others).

It is never ok to call someone a F**. Even at an affectionate level, it is still a demeaning word. I object to its use even by those who are homosexuals. The same applies to the N***** word (I apologize, I can not bring myself to write either one of these words out) for people who identify themselves as Black. Insert here your list of other derogatory labels and words.

While I have respect for people's right to say what they want amongst their friends, I also want to point out that it probably is not a good idea to refer to anyone, especially your friends with a label that in its original form represents a derogatory tone. You can not express love by using a negative term, that's like saying that you're feeding your baby by starving it.

It is not OK to cuss in Real Life, though the TV and mass media would have us believe otherwise.

It is NOT OK to cuss in SL.

WTF is cursing, just because it is an acronym does not mean it is no longer offensive. That's like saying LOL is not as much laughter as saying "laughing out loud".

We all have our moments with bad language, this is where thinking about what you're saying before you say it comes into place. Just because SL seems like a chat environment does not mean you can say anything you want.

Every society is based on community values, order, justice and above all love. You can not come into our world and claim you hold all freedoms possible in RL. This is not RL, this is SL. The first letter is different.
</soapbox>

As for griefers and newbies with no regard for others, you're not at fault. Linden Labs welcomes more new free customers every day, it's their fault. If you give something away for free, it will never have any value. The newbies who come to my store and shoot me watermelons till I am a watermelon compote, the griefers in the sandbox who make the PG-no shooting sandbox a living hell: I think you all do what you were brought to this earth to do. I am starting to believe that disruption and destruction is built into the human gene and it seems to serve some purpose though I can not figure out exactly what. Blaming you is like blaming a scorpion for stinging you. Hello??? It is a scorpion.


But still like I always say, I love each and every one of you despite the fact that we've never met. So just take care of yourselves and at LEAST try to be nice to each other.

Ok now climb into bed.

*tucking you into bed*

nite nite -- sweet SL dreams...

Troy
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Patrick Playfair
Registered User
Join date: 19 Jul 2004
Posts: 328
03-31-2006 12:37
From: Chri5 Somme
ok well we'll see when you're building something, i'll lag your sim and we'll see how hot headed you get. It's called "frustration". I did appologize to Adam Linden btw and also, I wasn't the only one to yell "WTF STOP U FAG", there was about 5 others before me but thanks tips.


At the start of this thread, I sympathized with you. You have been offered suggestions on how to deal with it in the future. Now you just sound like a crybaby. There really is nothing anyone in this thread can do for you, and to develop an attitude against them is just stupid. You just admitted that you apologized to Adam. WHat did you apologize for? Sounds like an admission that you crossed the line.
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Patrick Playfair
Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
Join date: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,601
03-31-2006 12:43
From: Picabo Hedges
Yet another thing for them to ignore I am sure.


I Live Help... the Lindens make it a habit of jumping into IM's about abuse taking place and usually end up going to where it's happening.
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
03-31-2006 23:50
From: Brace Coral
Welcome to SL Chris

We all recently found out that Linden Lab runs its daily affairs including Second Life with as much coherence and accuracy as if each employee lobs a projectile at a dart board to decide what they are going to work on each day.

They really hate to be bothered during their work day, because usually the stuff pinned to the dart board is all "fun stuff" and helping out a resident or dealing with a griefer is not fun.

As you have found out - the hard way, and I'm totally sorry for that - when you rise to defend yourself, they flip the script and you suddenly become the criminal.

I'm guessing that banning, auto-logging and the like are "fun things" to them, and much easier to handle than actually having to confront a fucktard griefer.

When you get back inGAME and yes its a goddam fucking GAME (since the CEO down to its newest recruit at LL runs operations as such) you are more than welcome to try out two sandboxes that are peaceful and quiet.

One is the Hedonistic Retreat (Use Find - Places - type in Sandbox or Hedonist) and the other is part of the New Citizens Inc (NCI) Plaza. At the NCI Plaza you can utilize the surface sandbox or find the teleport to the sky level area to work.

Basically Lindie Avatars can't and won't do squat to help ya. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

(Oh and for the rest of yall I'm back to posting up in here - welcome back Brace uh HUH)


Yep thats how things are... I been here over a year and seen my share. Thats why i never leave the sim i live in. I never go anywhere. When i want to build something i built it in the sandbox that I in charge of the security of. When a griefer comes in i use the psyke's system to boot them out. Seems like the only way. Some of us don't come to SL to play with guns and treat it like World of Warcraft, some of use come here to socialize, and or run a business. Like i have said in the past, its like high school. A bully can literelly tear into you but when you fight back, your the one who gets suspended.
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