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Cory Edo
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Join date: 26 Mar 2005
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03-29-2006 14:37
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
pootling


Best word ever.
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
03-29-2006 14:40
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
I've asked about adding more sandboxes to the grid in the forums and never received a repsonse form the Lindens about it. I suspect they won't be adding any more public ones because they'd rather encourage people to buy their own land rather than staying on basic accounts and pootling in places like Newcomb.


Nope, that's not why, they just don't like you.
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Chri5 Somme
:)
Join date: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 204
03-29-2006 14:42
From: Cristiano Midnight
Nope, that's not why, they just don't like you.

uncalled for.
Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
03-29-2006 14:43
From: Chri5 Somme
I wasn't the only one to yell "WTF STOP U FAG", there was about 5 others before me but thanks tips.

It's all right if other people do it, you see.
Chri5 Somme
:)
Join date: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 204
03-29-2006 14:45
From: Ordinal Malaprop
It's all right if other people do it, you see.


well if i can get suspended for it, why weren't they? thats unfair.
Armandi Goodliffe
Fantasy Mechanic
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 144
03-29-2006 14:48
From: Chri5 Somme
WTF is merely 3 letters (wtf.org = world taikwandoe federation) and FAG is said even on G rated movies and tv shows. Fag means cigarette or homosexual and if I can get suspended for calling someone a Fag then isn't that discrimination against a lifestyle (if it is used to describe a homosexual)?


This is where I stopped caring about you getting a ban. You didn't mean world taikwandoe federation and you sure didn't call them a cigarette. You used homosexual to degrade someone. I was all for you when you sounded like you were being honest about the whole thing, but this kind of weak spin makes me not care.
Cristiano Midnight
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Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
03-29-2006 14:50
From: Chri5 Somme
uncalled for.


Oh I am just teasing Ingrid, we are friends :P Not to mention, someone stupid enough to shout "WTF STOP U FAG" is talking to me about what is called for? Keep your homophobia to yourself.
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
03-29-2006 14:51
From: Chri5 Somme
well if i can get suspended for it, why weren't they? thats unfair.

If other people don't get suspended for it, that means I shouldn't either, because it means it must not be wrong.
Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
03-29-2006 14:54
From: Ordinal Malaprop
If other people don't get suspended for it, that means I shouldn't either, because it means it must not be wrong.


Well, he does make a point on consistency - if multiple people were shouting the slur, then it should apply to all of them, though personally I am fine with one person being made an example of in this case.
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
03-29-2006 15:02
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
That is a lot of land. If you require more privacy when you build, I would use some of your own land for building, as I do. Sandboxes, as Cory pointed out, are public places, and as such, you'll have to deal with everyone and the lag that follows them.


I use my land unless what I'm making goes over prim limit. Sandboxes are just that, sandboxes.. and cats use sandboxes at litterboxes. I'd forgotten about the "sit on a prim," and wished I'd remembered to do that a couple of days ago. I got bombed away from my build twice. Just Abuse Reported them and moved on. I'm too stuborn/stupid to worry about it too much. I guess I never relied too much on the Lindens doing much of anything but keeping the servers running.

As for the notething, Chris? Eh, if it really bothered me that badly, I'd have already IM'd you. It was just a first-time shock, but as long as it doesn't repeatedly give the notecard to me, I can deal. I just wish I could turn things like that off on my own land so those who are going to spam the heck out of me fail.
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Kitty Minogue
drops it like it's hot.
Join date: 1 Jul 2005
Posts: 123
03-29-2006 15:10
From: Armandi Goodliffe
This is where I stopped caring about you getting a ban. You didn't mean world taikwandoe federation and you sure didn't call them a cigarette. You used homosexual to degrade someone. I was all for you when you sounded like you were being honest about the whole thing, but this kind of weak spin makes me not care.


I'm so glad somebody was thinking the same thing.
Everybody else is like OMGZ THATS SO UNFAIR!!!11
In my book..
Calling somebody a fag is as offensive as calling a black person the N word.
Go around shouting the N word on your street and let's see what happends :p
Chri5 Somme
:)
Join date: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 204
03-29-2006 16:06
do any of you know what "frustration" means???!? holy crap you guys are annoying, i told you again and again that the "WTF" and "FAG" things I said were out of frustration! Now kids, frustration is when you are being prevented from accomplishing or completing a task, often with frustration comes anger. If you can honestly say you haven't been frustrated before and said or done something out of frustration then you are a liar.
Garnet Psaltery
Walking on the Moon
Join date: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 913
03-29-2006 16:12
Chri5, was there any reason you didn't call Live Help?
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Schwanson Schlegel
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Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
03-29-2006 16:13
From: Chri5 Somme
do any of you know what "frustration" means???!?


Is this it?


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Kitty Minogue
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Join date: 1 Jul 2005
Posts: 123
03-29-2006 16:17
From: Chri5 Somme
do any of you know what "frustration" means???!? holy crap you guys are annoying, i told you again and again that the "WTF" and "FAG" things I said were out of frustration! Now kids, frustration is when you are being prevented from accomplishing or completing a task, often with frustration comes anger. If you can honestly say you haven't been frustrated before and said or done something out of frustration then you are a liar.


I have never degraded somebody because of their sexual preference out of anger, no. :)

I'm not trying to start something with you..
but you really shouldn't be suprised you were banned if you say things like that.
& btchn out a linden was one of the dumbest things you could have done to solve the situation.
That is all I am saying.
Armandi Goodliffe
Fantasy Mechanic
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 144
03-29-2006 16:26
From: Chri5 Somme
do any of you know what "frustration" means???!? holy crap you guys are annoying, i told you again and again that the "WTF" and "FAG" things I said were out of frustration! Now kids, frustration is when you are being prevented from accomplishing or completing a task, often with frustration comes anger. If you can honestly say you haven't been frustrated before and said or done something out of frustration then you are a liar.


I understand frustration, but when you went on to try and make "WTF STOP U FAG" sound like you could have meant "world taikwandoe federation stop you cigarette" you insult our intelligence. You also asked, "if I can get suspended for calling someone a Fag then isn't that discrimination against a lifestyle (if it is used to describe a homosexual)? " and the answer is that it doesn't matter in this case, because you used it to degrade someone not because you knew them to be a homosexual.
Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
03-29-2006 16:37
From: Armandi Goodliffe
...but when you went on to try and make "WTF STOP U FAG" sound like you could have meant "world taikwandoe federation stop you cigarette" you insult our intelligence.

Talk about a sign of being on the ropes eh?

Chri5 do yourself a favor and stop posting about this. You're only harming yourself more by continuing.

Furthermore, protest threads about being suspended or banned are not allowed. Expect this one to be locked.
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Pyrii Akula
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Join date: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 187
03-29-2006 16:37
Okay, two sides to every argument, there was no-one to keep the peace int he sandboxes and this should be a linden's job, be sure to try most lindens you see online. tick the online box, remember most will be busy, they work in an office and do more than play SL. I've usually seena sim come to most griefing events. sometimes late, sometimes not.

But your actions should always be innocent, don't start screaming abuse, you may at first ask them not to do that, if they hurl abuse at you, more dirt for thier grave as you can include chat in an abuse report. What you shouldn't do is hurl abuse at them, or fire upon them, all too often I've seen the tides turned and the victim get's banned for "Self defense". Remember you have to abide by the rules, even if other currently aren't. If it continues and you're not getting much help, best you can do is wait for the next attack to pass, link up your project, pick it up and go elsewhere. Or work on it another time. You shouldn't start hurling abuse at the lindens who are obviously busy, complain, maybe, but offending them, nono.

That's the best advice I can offer really.
Cristiano Midnight
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Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
03-29-2006 16:39
From: Chri5 Somme
do any of you know what "frustration" means???!? holy crap you guys are annoying, i told you again and again that the "WTF" and "FAG" things I said were out of frustration! Now kids, frustration is when you are being prevented from accomplishing or completing a task, often with frustration comes anger. If you can honestly say you haven't been frustrated before and said or done something out of frustration then you are a liar.


You need to look at yourself and figure out why, out of frustration, you go right for calling someone a fag. People do all kinds of things out of frustration - it still doesn't make them right. While you were at it, why didn't you pick a racial slur too? I mean it's just frustration, right, so clearly it is fine to call someone whatever you want and you should just get a free pass. Thanks for explaining that to us kids. You are so much more enlightened than those of us who wouldn't go directly to using a gay slur because we are mad.
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Kitty Minogue
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Join date: 1 Jul 2005
Posts: 123
03-29-2006 17:10
From: Cristiano Midnight
You need to look at yourself and figure out why, out of frustration, you go right for calling someone a fag. People do all kinds of things out of frustration - it still doesn't make them right. While you were at it, why didn't you pick a racial slur too? I mean it's just frustration, right, so clearly it is fine to call someone whatever you want and you should just get a free pass. Thanks for explaining that to us kids. You are so much more enlightened than those of us who wouldn't go directly to using a gay slur because we are mad.


I like you
Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
03-29-2006 17:15
I get a little tired of "Lindens suck" type posts. In all of my time in SL I have requested a Linden's help many times and they have always responded immediately. Of course I was polite in my requests and very specific about what I wanted. Try that approach the next time. :)

Maybe wearing a short skirt helps too if it's a male Linden you are IMing.
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Picabo Hedges
Second Life Resident
Join date: 12 Nov 2004
Posts: 262
03-29-2006 17:59
From: someone
was there any reason you didn't call Live Help?

A truly pointless question considering that again and again it has been pointed out that Live Helpers ARE NOT Lindens, have no real authority and cannot solve interpersonal disputes between residents.
Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
03-29-2006 18:04
Not pointless at all as Linden Liaisons also receive live help IMs.
Picabo Hedges
Second Life Resident
Join date: 12 Nov 2004
Posts: 262
03-29-2006 18:17
From: Memir Quinn
Not pointless at all as Linden Liaisons also receive live help IMs.

Yet another thing for them to ignore I am sure. I stand by my comment and opinion that it is/would have been pointless to have contacted Live Help in this situation.

Your mileage obviosly varies from mine... sfw?
Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
03-29-2006 18:39
From: Picabo Hedges
Yet another thing for them to ignore I am sure.


Says you. Different for me.

I had cause to contact them last eve over a matter of a automated attack drone left in one of the combat sims (Rausch) which was killing out of turn anything that came in sim in a hail of particles and fire effects, a constant stream. Called over LiveHelp, within five minutes Teeple Linden was there and offending object removed. So I guess I don't see this supposed lack of response nor do the majority of respondents to this thread.

From: Picabo Hedges
I stand by my comment and opinion that it is/would have been pointless to have contacted Live Help in this situation.


Well, wouldn't be the first time someone being wrong on the forums, the point is they do listen and do respond.

From: Picabo Hedges
Your mileage obviosly varies from mine... sfw?


So I'm getting pretty good "fucking" millage thanks and yours isn't the definitive experience, not even close. ^.^
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