Anti-furry Griefers

If you're innocent of this act, and members of your group did it, why not leave the group? Personally, there is no way I'd associate with people who did such a thing. If you don't want to suffer the consequences of their actions, then end your association, and your problem is solved.

Are there really furries who get offended if you call them human?

Well, that approach would ultimately lead to people being afraid of joining ANY groups.

A member of my family is in jail for killing someone, should I cut him off too? Should people never speak to me again because we're related?

People should be judged on a one on one basis, not what groups they're in.

Seeing how your name was never mensioned in this thread it sounds like you got a guilty concious. And since your name was never mentioned in this thread your threats hold no ground. So what if there is a blacklist floating around with your name on the list, there's nothing against the ToS preventing us from sharing this information.

If they're guilty of the crime its not unheard of to be disowned by your family.
While its usually not the case, the term "Guilty by Association" exists because in many people's eyes they believe this to be true.

This would be true in a perfect world, we do not live in a perfect world and by nature human beings are imperfect.

@Gambit

There is a big difference between a family and a group, and people are aware of this.

As they say you can choose your friends but not your relatives. People do realize that you have no choice in the matter of association if you are part of a family.

But you choose to be part of a group.

Sad fact is that innocent or not, when we become a member of a group it's our responsibility to uphold the best qualities of the group and unfortunately when something bad befalls a group, we are going to get caught up.

What we can do about it is be choosy of our associations. We need to be aware of what a group stands for, but also be ready to leave if we need to.

Just to illustrate stuff I'd done regarding groups.

Group 1. Got invited because we wanted to do business together. The group owner did some setting up but didn't quite get into the swing of what we set out to do, the group dwindled, then the owner got permabanned for fraud so I hear (but I never got the details). By now the group should be gone, but I just removed my membership since it wasn't going to go anywhere.

Group 2. A support group of sorts for setting up businesses and such. It looked all good in presentation but I was not happy with the fact that part of the group activity involved a TOS violation elsewhere. They're not likely to get caught but I was still uncomfortable with it. I politely left the group.

Group 3. Just a group, was invited by an in-world friend. However based on the kind of things put up for polls I figured this group was of a much lower age bracket and I foresaw that I wouldn't really click with them. I still remain friends with the guy but I still left the group.

Group 4. A business group. There are some internal problems but by and large the group is ok. I'm still with this group.

Group 5. I was never formally invited to the group (as in dialog box) but they did try to encourage me to join in their fun. They are a wonderful and enthusiastic group that I have a lot of respect for. I did business with them but I couldn't really hook up because, simply, their main sport is not one I participate in.

Do spend time to assess the groups you're in as to whether you click with them, you have common goals and values, and they don't do stuff that you're not comfortable with. Leave if you have to.

This is very very sick, and upsetting maybe the ones that did this will be banned. But what good will that do? All they have to do is make a new Acct, And be back in SL doing this more.

You were reported by the owner of a fur valley sim as leading a grief against them using the group known as CAKE. Sorry to say this but when you grief, you get banned. The Furry sims share each others banned names most the time (not sure about FN) so its best to not do that if you wish to resume your visits. kthxbye

As for the slandering, be my guest. lets see how far it gets you. "Oh i got banned by every furry sim in Sl becuase i was griefing 1 of them. THEY SHOUDLNT ALL BANE ME!". Face it, with all the griefings lately, we are all uptight and quick to ban. Possibly a few sims MIGHT take you seriously after a month or so...

If anyone needs proof of my information, Angel Fluffy, is the sim owner who reported this.

Not at all. That doesn't really follow from what I said. I didn't say people should judge all members of a group by the actions of some... merely that if you suffered from such an association, leaving would resolve that for you.

It is, from doing a search, a pretty small group... so the association is close (meaning you're likely to be rubbing shoulders with them)... I stand by what I said, that if if was me, and members of group that small were acting that way, I wouldn't desire their company.

Just FYI i am good at logging information, and big lists of names.

This is a tad late and NOW off topic but...wow I wish I was an expert like you.

I have watched you post and you often pull shit out of your ass...but you are so vehement about it that I think you actually believe what you say. YOU my dear need to get a job, because after all the crap you spew it's evident to me that you need another diversion.


Fmeh.................Try as you might, attempting to justify this 'crap' no pun intended, will not help you one iota..............If you're so bloody innocent then I would suggest....choose your friends more wisely. Until then, you and all of the 'CAKE'? people will be judged by the actions of a stupid few. As has always happened in history.

Listen up because you have yet to post any proof, but you seem to have alot to say.

I AM a furry, I only have ONE human avatar. I didn NOT grief any furry sims, and you have NO proof.

Post proof or back off.

*YAWNS*

It's become apparent who the real griefers are, the people making all these accusations, being e-thugs, and even *yawn*'ing in threads.

No proof posted at all, just finger pointing, and causing drama. How pathetic, just close your eyes, and pick names off a list.

Grow up.

My proof is in the log files and with the fur valley admins and the abuse reports filed. NEXT

Hell Gambit, I've been banned from furry sims I've never even heard of. I've never actually been to a furry sim except for when I was placing a Ginko ATM and when I was helping Hinoserm do a presentation when he was at a furry con, and one other time when I was taking pictures of dragon furries for an artical I was writing. But I am in an anti-furry group {for the title only, really. I don't think there are any active members in it}, and that's enough justification for them to keep me off their lands. It's really not that farfetched to think that someone would ban a person if they think that they are or might be risk to their sims well being. If you really had no involvement and wish to be off their ban list, leave the group that did it and then talk to the sim owners.

Post them. You say they exist, you apparently have them since I'm SO guilty. Post them for all to see.

I mean, you're not lying at all right?

I'm not a furry, don't know any furries and am not even sure I am a furry fan, but I'm not a furry hater...BUT you have shown by your conduct here how I should regard you.


*YAWN*

My conduct where?

Asking people not to point fingers, make false accusations, and judge people by the groups they're in is somehow bothering you?

Grow up with your baiting *yawn*'ing. You're really immature, which is ironic since that's what you're hinting at me.

As Aodhan stated, you can't pick your family, so the comparison is not particularly valid.

The last sentence, realistically... ideal or not, people often do judge you by the company you keep. It's not especially illogical however for people to assume a commonality of interests, that is part of the function of a group. If it was say, a building group, people may not make the connection if a member was to grief... however, some groups may say something quite directly about you. If I was to join a 'we hate furries group'... in that instance, what else would people think but Fade hates furries?

I would just ask you how you feel about these actions, and if you disagree with them, act as you feel fit. Unlike a family, you can choose your path here.

I left CAKE, but the damage is already done. This Yufle Yiffy person refuses to take me off their little list they're sending around, getting me, and my friends banned from places for no reason.

I have yet to see any proof that anything even took place.

Log files of the event.
if you need proof they are authentice, contact the person below.

Angel Fluffy: Warning : if you see members of the group "CAKE", especially a guy called "Gambit Kilian", be careful. I just got flash-mobbed by the CAKE group and Gambit rezzed a ton of missiles in the middle of the most crowded area of my sim
Angel Fluffy: cptpicard potvin also rezzed a scripted bomb in the crowd..... apparently full of destructive scripts

Gambit, I don't recall your name coming up, or your group's name in this thread before you entered it. The action was being discussed, unless I missed it, there were no accusations flying around. You stepped in and introduced your and your group's name in association with this.

I posted it in the wrong thread, there's a thread with a similar title that highlights CAKE as griefers with no proof. This yuffle person is the one doing it.

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