Anti-furry Griefers

LMAO, same old Jonas. Wow I still remember you.

I've never heard of the dragon one but the Edge one is just a big dance club membership, it has something like 3000 members I think. One of those members will do something stupid, just based on the numbers. But no one is going to link the group to him/her in that case. It's the small groups of friends people are talking about here, its who you choose to actually hang out with.




If my friend does something others simply don't approve of but has valid reasons for it, or if my friend is disliked simply for who he/she is thats one thing. Stupidity is a whole nother issue. Hurtfullness is even another seperate issue.

If my friend is a political activist and folks dont like him for it, I'm going to stand by him whether I agree with his politics or not.
If my friend lives an alternative lifestyle and people discriminate against her for it, I'm going to stand by her whether I understand it or not. (been there plenty)
If my friend does something stupid but has honestly good intentions, I'm going to stand by him.

BUT...

If my friend does something stupid just for the sake of stupid once, I would probably smack her in the head and call her stupid but stay her friend.
If she does it again and it appears to be a habit, I am very likely to tell her she's too stupid to be around me.
If my friend does something HURTFUL just for the sake of being hurtful, it is very likely I will walk away from them and let them know they are not the kind of person I want in my life.

As for accepting having damage done to my own reputation as a result of my friends stupidity, vileness, douchbagness..... noway, I wouldn't accept that and if someone were a true friend to you, they wouldn't do that to you either.

One a completely seperate note, and not a personal attack, just a suggestion....

A lot of people very much dislike being called "son", or "hon" or "dear" (another one I've seen you use) by someone they are not personally familiar with. And if you're speaking to someone who feels that way, it's likely to make them tune you out or respond defensively.
I only say this because I'm one of the people who feels that way and I know it would make it harder for me to hear you too.

Just a thought.

*makes a mental note to tone down her use of 'hon'*

lol

I'll call you hon, and you will LIKE IT.

I'll also tell you you're a doll. If you are nice.

I think context makes all the difference.

"Get a grip, hon" to a stranger... patronising. "You're welcome hon", friendly.

Yes true. With words like hon, I dont really get annoyed when waitresses or nurses do it because I understand that it is simply a comfy habit for many. I never mind when friends do it and I've done it to friends. What I mind is when a complete stranger uses it as a way to somehow lower my position before them or disregard me. An example would be a male coworker I once had who had a habit of saying things like "ok hon" or "whatever you say darlin" as a way to verbally pat me on the head so to speak. It's all about the tone with wich its used that I respond to I guess.

I am banned in the W-Hat sim myself. I consider it a badge of honor.

I myself am guilty of this. If I see members of a group grief. I often consider it a griefer group. Especially when the group does not ban the griefer, or they argue in his favor. As far as I am concerned you are who you hang with.

Banning griefers or entire groups won't do any good: they wil create a new alt and are back in minutes. In my club, we are taking another approach: we have a specialized security team, armed to the teeth, who have become very efficient in dealing with /b/astards and their kind... Inside the club, guests don't even notice the club is under attack. this is the only way to deal with griefers... Shooting back.

Now I personally hold to the theory " Make Love Not War" (yes I'm a real hippie...) but increasing attacks from griefers have forced us to take matters into our own paws... This time, the foxes are shooting back. (as well as sending out AR's of course.)

And to all those who feel 'Discriminated because some in their group are griefers while they themselves are totally innovent': I think it's totally justified. Us furries have had to put up with a LOT of shit because of the same resons:Now you know what it is to be hated for belonging to a certain group. SUCKS, Don't it?!?

Wanna complain about it, go and complain to your /b/tards buddies and everyone else from 4chan who are griefing.

Are you serious?

I am utterly appalled that anyone in SL would have this outlout. Griefing is not "okay" by any shape or form. Blasting friends (or those concenting to it) in combat sims is one thing. Griefing, by its definition, is causing grief to a fellow human being (appollogies to any devote furries, but we are all human under it all).

To knock a friend around, yes, funny funny. Griefing, driving the stress levels up on a person, is not funny. I do not know any griefers personally. But if even my closest friend in SL began griefing I would ask them just what the hell they thought they were doing, and tell them flat out to stop of I will report them. If they become offended by this, then they aren't worth being my friend.

I see griefing as a crime. It is one of our highest crimes here in SL. About the only thing above it is DoS attacks and that is just a continuation of griefing. I see greifer groups as the equivilant of real world gangs that need stepped on and squashed. And yes, anyone who hangs with them, protects them, or simply stand aside and lets them continue thier actions (which violate the ToS) are as guilty as the griefers in my mindset.

So if someone is banned because they belong to a group that has been tagged as a "griefer group" (proven or suspected), I have no sympathy at all for that person. Each and every one of us has complete control over what we do within this virtual world. If I think a group is acting irresponsibly, I'm going to leave it (I have already), and I'll actively work against that group if they continue on such a course. "Friends" who would act in such a mannor, ar not friends I wish to have and will be treated simularly.

So yes, I don't just assume that every SL resident should be vehemently and actively opposed to griefing, I demand it of anyone whom interacts with me. Just as I demand in the real world that people are vehemently and actively opposed to destruction of private property, assault, animal cruelty, etc etc.

It is a crime, and is, and should be, treated as such.

~Jessy

You know if it was possible to have a script detect if someone is holding a gun it would be real nice. I would script some of those Turrets from Project Entropia and have them shoot them like RATITATITATIATAT! and be gone. Just think of how much ammo those things use... I'm glad i'm not paying for it.

Who needs guns when you got sensors? Guns need accuracy, sensors don't! When a griefer enters our sim, i eject/ban, but if they still remain, i unsit/orbit using unstoppable sensors. I don't really need hired security officers. I just have about 6-8 people who sometimes hang around, i call the Woodland Guardians.

Yeah Tren, but your reason for wearing the Anti Furry title sucks, and really if you didn't see yourself getting banned from Furry Sims for wearing it.... uh I'm shocked. That would be like me dawning the robes of the KKK and running into a Black Panther meeting yelling "I'M JUST WEARING IT SO U DON'T TRY TO SEX ME!"

Tell me about how far you think that would go? Think about the name of the group, Anti Furry - Against Furries, and then give me a good reason I should allow a possible point of contention like that come to rest in my SIM (Should I own one). Hells no, sure you may not be a trouble maker, but the folks in my sim may take offense, get upset that someone who is essentially in a hate group against them is present. Hell yeah I'd ban you just cause I don't want to deal with the shit. It is much easier for me to just get rid of you, than it is to placate a bunch of furs.

And let me tell you, even though I am one and I hate generalizations as much as the next guy, I have never seen a more emo whinefest than a pack of persecuted furballs. I just don't have the time or energy to deal with that kind of shit on what is MY downtime, so one ban fixes all.

*edit* I am a furry myself so I'm generalizing myself. Kiss my butt!

ARG. Best way to deal with any griefers is to not acknoledge them at all and use the teleport agent home function. About half of the time they forget where they were. Causing a gigantic fuss like this encourages them.

Also lol at the fact that this thread actually got this long. jeez.

=(

I've been in SL for about 3 weeks now. Within the first two days, I joined and purchased
my first land parcel. I joined a furry group (United Furry Organization) as I was in a furry skin at the time, but this isn't my primary look. I was so excited that I could meet all kinds of characters. I later started getting my group's IMs about griefers. I'm very dissapointed that this is going on. I envisioned a digital Utopia where everyone respected
and helped each other (my general experience so far). As I am always one to stick up for
the underdog, I started investigating how we (repectful characters that we are) can protect ourselves. Here are some things I've found and the work!

At The Ivory Tower there is a "vehicle box" directly outside for free. When attached,
It reders you invunerable to attack.

For home, bedlam enterprises does a good defense weapon called the bedlam bouncer.
It ejects and detects (as well as freezes so you can get help)!

Another tip if you aren't at home...drag a your largest texture from your files and attatch it directly to the offending avatar. This will freeze them as they try to res.

I also found a weapon at a flea market that actually chases the prescribed avatar every
where surround him in a cloud of Prim sucking black smoke! (I've yet to need it, but I'm ready do.) I refrain as I don't want to sink to their level possibly creating a "war" situation with these incredibly immature idiots.

In short, all we can do is stick together and arm ourselves defensively.

Shout out to all you mech wearing fairy furries and any one else out there epressing themselves in different, interesting ways. It takes all kinds to make a world, but in this world we can make all kinds!

Can you direct me to as how and where on that agent home function? I don't know how to script, but I'll have my security team look into it...

There is a free script in the scripting forum let me find it. Psykes stuff is also pretty good.

Edit
High quality super fun.
might take some editing to get it to work right, but hey its free

Err, I'm pretty sure I was justifing why furry sim owners have every right to ban me. I wasn't whinning that I got banned, because I have no reason to actually go to a furry sim. I don't want to interact with them.

And if the black panthers starting humping everyone that was slightly tan, then your analogy would be a little bit closer to the furry situation. And yes, what I said was my justificaiton at that point when I joined the group, but the truth is that I hate furries for 99% of the things they do.

Do you know 99% of the things they do?

I think he hates it when dogs bark.

No, of course not. I just hate things for the hell of it.

I'm not going to turn this into a thread that will be locked.

:X **snickers**

AWW COME ONNNN! ITS NOT REAL POOP!!!!

roflmao Richie <3
Wait till you see our bedroom...winkwink........