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ZsuZsanna Raven
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11-03-2005 13:42
From: Richie Waves
the Idea that anyone can muscle anyone in SL is laughable..



My gun is bigger than your gun!!
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-03-2005 13:43
Think about it folks. If you're acting it out in SL, you're just one tiny little step away from doing it in real life.

Sure, there'll be a few who are doing it just for fun, but I think this whole innocent until proven guilty bullshit is just liberal claptrap for letting the bad guys go free.
Richie Waves
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11-03-2005 13:43
From: Hiro Queso
They can. They can move your av with like scripts and stuff.


hehe.. oh that hurts :) "ass kicking"
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Annah Zamboni
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11-03-2005 13:44
From: blaze Spinnaker
Think about it folks. If you're acting it out in SL, you're just one tiny little step away from doing it in real life.

Sure, there'll be a few who are doing it just for fun, but I think this whole innocent until proven guilty bullshit is just liberal claptrap for letting the bad guys go free.

He's right. I went to the lumber store and wanted to build a cube.
Aurael Neurocam
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11-03-2005 13:46
From: blaze Spinnaker
Well, if you're thinking about this stuff you're probably doing it in reality. Maybe not all, but why risk it?


Just like every kid who plays Counterstrike, Quake, Doom, or Unreal buys a gun and shoots up a high school. Perhaps all the people who play Grand Theft Auto go out and kill cops in real life.

From what I've gathered, talking to people about things like this, most people would never indulge most of their sexual fantasies in the real world. I remember a specific converstation with a woman who was "bi-curious": She has fantasized about other women, but when her chance came to try it in real life, she didn't do it.

People don't try to make every fantasy come true. There are some things that will always stay in the realm of imagination. Personally, I'm glad we're that way, or else the world would be a lot worse than it already is.
Luminia Olsen
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11-03-2005 13:46
blaze Spinnaker cant get laid in sl so he trys to do the next best thing and get it ban all together ;) :p
ZsuZsanna Raven
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11-03-2005 13:48
From: Luminia Olsen
blaze Spinnaker cant get laid in sl so he trys to do the next best thing and get it ban all together ;) :p



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Aurael Neurocam
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11-03-2005 13:49
From: blaze Spinnaker
Think about it folks. If you're acting it out in SL, you're just one tiny little step away from doing it in real life.


I simply can't believe that, Blaze.

How many fantasies do we ALL have that we would never act out in real life? Have you ever stood in line at the bank, looked over at the vault, and thought, if I had all that money, I could move to Tahiti...

If you were right, than every time a kid picks up a violent video game, they'd be "one tiny little step away" from going Postal in a McDonald's.

It just doesn't happen.
Gabe Lippmann
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11-03-2005 13:51
From: blaze Spinnaker
Think about it folks. If you're acting it out in SL, you're just one tiny little step away from doing it in real life.

Sure, there'll be a few who are doing it just for fun, but I think this whole innocent until proven guilty bullshit is just liberal claptrap for letting the bad guys go free.


Totally! I was so trying to stage a snail riding race the other day, but the little buggers just wouldn't cooperate. Eventually I gave up, flew over to a nearby Park and practiced catapulting myself into a bullseye with some Elf buds.
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Hiro Queso
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11-03-2005 13:51
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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11-03-2005 13:52
From: Aurael Neurocam
I simply can't believe that, Blaze.

How many fantasies do we ALL have that we would never act out in real life? Have you ever stood in line at the bank, looked over at the vault, and thought, if I had all that money, I could move to Tahiti...

If you were right, than every time a kid picks up a violent video game, they'd be "one tiny little step away" from going Postal in a McDonald's.

It just doesn't happen.



That's why they put play lands in McDonalds...otherwise kids would be stealing apple pies with The Hamburgler as their accomplice...
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blaze Spinnaker
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11-03-2005 13:52
From: Aurael Neurocam
I simply can't believe that, Blaze.

How many fantasies do we ALL have that we would never act out in real life? Have you ever stood in line at the bank, looked over at the vault, and thought, if I had all that money, I could move to Tahiti...

If you were right, than every time a kid picks up a violent video game, they'd be "one tiny little step away" from going Postal in a McDonald's.

It just doesn't happen.


Yes, there will be some who do this just for kicks and will never do it in RL, but *why risk it*.

I think when it comes to child safety, we need to assume guilt until they prove themselves innocent.
Annah Zamboni
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11-03-2005 13:53
From: Aurael Neurocam
People don't try to make every fantasy come true. There are some things that will always stay in the realm of imagination. Personally, I'm glad we're that way, or else the world would be a lot worse than it already is.

BUT allowing this in SL would make it MUCH EASIER for those that do this IRL to meet others online and then possibly prey upon them or their families. And the person that was just 'innocently experimenting' might not be able to remain in control if they meet up in RL with the person who has a history already IRL. Im just saying, dont let SL be a vehicle for this type of behavior.
Gabe Lippmann
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11-03-2005 13:53
From: Aurael Neurocam
From what I've gathered, talking to people about things like this, most people would never indulge most of their sexual fantasies in the real world. I remember a specific converstation with a woman who was "bi-curious": She has fantasized about other women, but when her chance came to try it in real life, she didn't do it.


Me too, was curious about bi-women, but when I got my chance I hid under the couch. :cool:
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Torley Linden
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11-03-2005 13:53
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11-03-2005 13:55
Seriously, you all didn't expect this in SL?

It happens all over the internet, ALL day, EVERY day, why should SL be any different.

Sure as heck doesn't make it right by a long shot, nothing would ever make it right, but why so shocked?!

Do we ever really know who is behind another AV? Sometimes we learn things about people we know in RL that we never thought possible, its just the way it goes.

MY old teacher was a pervert, and yes, I know cos I had first hand experience, trust me, to look at him you wouldn't think it, and nobody did till it all came to light that he had done it to over 10 different girls, all to scared to say anything.

If they get the fuel, in SL or RL, they are gunna light a match.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-03-2005 13:55
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Aurael Neurocam
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11-03-2005 14:00
From: Annah Zamboni
BUT allowing this in SL would make it MUCH EASIER for those that do this IRL to meet others online and then possibly prey upon them or their families. And the person that was just 'innocently experimenting' might not be able to remain in control if they meet up in RL with the person who has a history already IRL. Im just saying, dont let SL be a vehicle for this type of behavior.



Uhm.... how?

SL only allows adults.

There is no information available about me that I don't choose to give.

How, exactly, can anything I do in SL affect me in the real world? I suppose that if I was stupid enough to give someone I don't even know my home phone number, I shouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be someone I didn't expect.

But come on, your scenario just doesn't work. Not in a world of total anonymity and adults only, where children shouldn't even be in the first place, and where you will never, EVER find out my real name (unless you work for LL, in which case, you have a greater responsibility anyway, and this whole conversation becomes something else.)
Aurael Neurocam
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11-03-2005 14:01
From: Mulch Ennui


What's with the links to pictures? Is this supposed to be biting commentary on the topic being discussed, or are you just bumping the thread (which doesn't need it... it's grown by 2 pages in a matter of minutes).
Mulch Ennui
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11-03-2005 14:05
From: Aurael Neurocam
What's with the links to pictures? Is this supposed to be biting commentary on the topic being discussed, or are you just bumping the thread (which doesn't need it... it's grown by 2 pages in a matter of minutes).


isn't this the fishing forum?

everyone knows anyone who fishes are pedos
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Annah Zamboni
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11-03-2005 14:05
From: Aurael Neurocam
SL only allows adults.

There is no information available about me that I don't choose to give.

How, exactly, can anything I do in SL affect me in the real world? I suppose that if I was stupid enough to give someone I don't even know my home phone number, I shouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be someone I didn't expect.

But come on, your scenario just doesn't work. Not in a world of total anonymity and adults only, where children shouldn't even be in the first place, and where you will never, EVER find out my real name (unless you work for LL, in which case, you have a greater responsibility anyway, and this whole conversation becomes something else.)

When we are in a perfect world and everyone makes rational decisions 24/7 then yes my point is invalid. Also, you assume everyone in SL is hiding and unwilling to give out their personal information. Thats not the case. And some of those people have children. My main point.
Gabe Lippmann
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11-03-2005 14:12
From: blaze Spinnaker
Yes, there will be some who do this just for kicks and will never do it in RL, but *why risk it*.

I think when it comes to child safety, we need to assume guilt until they prove themselves innocent.


Can we start jailing the creators of fictional works depicting child abuse yet? You know those After School Special actors were total deviants. Just got into it to act out their sick fantasies with children.
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Aurael Neurocam
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11-03-2005 14:13
From: Annah Zamboni
When we are in a perfect world and everyone makes rational decisions 24/7 then yes my point is invalid. Also, you assume everyone in SL is hiding and unwilling to give out their personal information. Thats not the case. And some of those people have children. My main point.


Then maybe the people who have children and stupidly give out their personal information should think twice before giving it to a potential would-be stalker.

This is one of the reasons I NEVER give out real-world information, except maybe vague non-specifics that could apply to one of a hundred million people in this country.

What you are describing could happen to any SL resident at any time, if they give out their personal information. Whether they're age playing, yiffing, having TG sex, or just doing the horizontal bop with a straight partner... any of those has blackmail potential.

But bringing in the stalker card is not really relevant to the issue of whether any kind of virtual sex is "creepy" or wrong. I think we can all agree that giving out personal info in SL is a hazard. Is giving out personal info to someone you just had sex with while you were dressed as Pipi Longstockings and he was dressed as Godzilla pretty stupid? I'd say so.

But don't go confusing the sick and illegal actions of a stalker with the morality of a partciular sexual fetish. It isn't really fair to the conversation, and it brings no helpful information to the discussion.
Aurael Neurocam
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11-03-2005 14:15
From: Gabe Lippmann
Can we start jailing the creators of fictional works depicting child abuse yet? You know those After School Special actors were total deviants. Just got into it to act out their sick fantasies with children.


Good point. Let's jail anybody who's ever written a book, play, tv show, or movie where a child has been murdered, raped, molested, or had their lunch money stolen.

SL is FICTION - INTERACTIVE FICTION. Yes, real people are involved, but my SL character and I are two different people. Confusing the two can lead to serious hurt feelings at best and serious real world problems at worst.
Gabe Lippmann
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11-03-2005 14:16
From: Annah Zamboni
When we are in a perfect world and everyone makes rational decisions 24/7 then yes my point is invalid. Also, you assume everyone in SL is hiding and unwilling to give out their personal information. Thats not the case. And some of those people have children. My main point.


What is the point? That the individuals with children need LL to police an 18+ virtual world so that those children are safe. Because they don't do it themselves? If you have children, do not give them access to an ADULT virtual community and don't bring people home to hang with them that you hardly know from a hole in the wall. Your info is yours to do with as you must to maintain the safety of your children.
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