Very angry right now. Whats your opinion on this?
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Kacen Khalamov
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08-01-2006 17:03
If this is in the wrong forum please move it, for this is my first time using the forum and I'm relatively new to Second Life. This happened about an hour and a half ago/two hours ago.
I decide to go to Pi - Developers Haven and Public Sandbox to do some customizations to my ship. I decide to walk around a bit first and I notice a few people sitting around and talking. My avatar is a furre (I'm not a furre IRL and I don't yiff, I just like the avatar), and I notice a person with a troll/"orc"-ish avatar with a spear on his back impaling a furry head. Obviously, a furre hater. I can also see that he hates furres by looking at his profile. I don't say anything at all. Two other furres sitting on a bench nearby start talking to each other saying they should leave before this furre hater starts something.
Then suddenly out of nowhere some little furre comes along and she goes up to these two other furres and says "u giev yiff?", whatever the bloody hell "giev" means. Now this is right in front of the obvious furre hater. I think shes acting like a bloody fool. The two furres look at her and just humor her. She keeps doing this, saying "u giev yiff?" and "i yiff" and various other phrases using poor grammar and atrocious chatspeak. I look at her profile and shes 23. I'm more than four years younger than her and shes acting incredibly immature and can't even bother to spell. I also notice in her profile that theres nothing furry about her, so I suspect she has alterior motives.
Now, the furre hater is just standing nearby and does nothing, nothing at all. This surprises me. He wasn't AFK because his away message wasn't on and he was turning from side to side occasionally. Then, to my horror, the girl goes up to the furre hater and says the same things to him. He just humors her and doesn't even make any snide remarks about furres in general. Once again, surprising if I do say so myself. But she keeps doing this, even going so far as to use a humping animation on him. So she continues to speak like an immature twelve year old, harassing this guy, and from this I suspect that shes just trying to make furres look bad. Once again, I am not a furre, but I have friends that are and I find this despicable. I know alot of furres who aren't like that.
This goes on for a while and I manage to fight through the awful lag. I was so angry, I decided to orbit her. I enter the key to orbit her and her name and nothing happens, it doesn't work. But apparently they were aware I attempted to orbit her. So next thing I know I'm outside the sim and I was ejected and banned - by none other than the furre hater she was harassing. I IM him and say "Why did you ban me?!" he says simply "you used weapons". In my defense, I would like to say that the place I was banned from did not say "No weapons" in it, in the sim name or in its description in search, which I actually find surprising. Also, I had no idea the furre hater was a mod there, if thats the correct term to use in SL, and also at the time I wasn't really considering an orbiter a weapon, although to be honest now I can kinda see it now. Also, he gave me no warning.
So I make these points to him and he simply does not respond back anymore, so I just hold in my anger and say nothing and close the IM screen. So now I IM the furre girl and, I should have expected this I suppose, shes acting like a bloody 12 year old again, using eye-aching chatspeak, saying things like "y u haet?" and repeating her aforementioned utterances.
Now I need to know what you all think. Do you think he was being a little harsh, or was being comepletely out of line? I find this whole ordeal very frustrating.
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Jack Harker
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08-01-2006 17:06
From: Kacen Khalamov If this is in the wrong forum please move it, for this is my first time using the forum and I'm relatively new to Second Life. This happened about an hour and a half ago/two hours ago.
I decide to go to Pi - Developers Haven and Public Sandbox to do some customizations to my ship. I decide to walk around a bit first and I notice a few people sitting around and talking. My avatar is a furre (I'm not a furre IRL and I don't yiff, I just like the avatar), and I notice a person with troll/"orc"-ish avatar with a spear on his back impaling a furry head. Obviously, a furre hater. I can also see that he hates furres by looking at his profile. I don't say anything at all. Two other furres sitting on a bench nearby start talking to each other saying they should leave before this furre hater starts something.
Then suddenly out of nowhere some little furre comes along and she goes up to these two other furres and says "u giev yiff?", whatever the bloody hell "giev" means. Now this is right in front of the obvious furre hater. I think shes acting like a bloody fool. The two furres look at her and just humor her. She keeps doing this, saying "u giev yiff?" and "i yiff" and various other phrases using poor grammar and atrocious chatspeak. I look at her profile and shes 23. I'm more than four years younger than her and shes acting incredibly immature and can't even bother to spell. I also notice in her profile that theres nothing furry about her, so I suspect she has alterior motives.
Now, the furre hater is just standing nearby and does nothing, nothing at all. This surprises me. He wasn't AFK because his away message wasn't on and he was turning from side to side occasionally. Then, to my horror, the girl goes up to the furre hater and says the same things to him. He just humors her and doesn't even make any snide remarks about furres in general. Once again, surprising if I do say so myself. But she keeps doing this, even going so far as to use a humping animation on him. So she continues continue to speak like an immature twelve year old, harassing this guy, and from this I suspect that shes just trying to make furres look bad. Once again, I am not a furre, but I have friends that are and I find this despicable. I know alot of furres who aren't like that.
This goes on for a while and I manage to fight through the awful lag. I was so angry, I decided to orbit her. I enter the key to orbit her and her name and nothing happens, it doesn't work. But apparently they were aware I attempted to orbit her. So next thing I know I'm outside the sim and I was ejected and banned - by none other than the furre hater she was harassing. I IM him and say "Why did you ban me?!" he says simply "you used weapons". In my defense, I would like to say that the place I was banned from did not say "No weapons" in it, in the sim name or in its description in search, which I actually find surprising. Also, I had no idea the furre hater was a mod there, if thats the correct term to use in SL, and also at the time I wasn't really considering an orbiter a weapon, although to be honest now I can kinda see it now. Also, he gave me no warning.
So I make these points to him and he simply does not respond back anymore, so I just hold in my anger and say nothing and close the IM screen. So now I IM the furre girl and, I should have expected this I suppose, shes acting like a bloody 12 year old again, using eye-aching chatspeak, saying things like "y u haet?" and repeating her aforementioned utterances.
Now I need to know what you all think. Do you think he was being a little harsh, or was being comepletely out of line? I find this whole ordeal very frustrating. I think you were trolled, and you fell for it.
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pandastrong Fairplay
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08-01-2006 17:08
From: Kacen Khalamov If this is in the wrong forum please move it, for this is my first time using the forum and I'm relatively new to Second Life. This happened about an hour and a half ago/two hours ago.
I decide to go to Pi - Developers Haven and Public Sandbox to do some customizations to my ship. I decide to walk around a bit first and I notice a few people sitting around and talking. My avatar is a furre (I'm not a furre IRL and I don't yiff, I just like the avatar), and I notice a person with a troll/"orc"-ish avatar with a spear on his back impaling a furry head. Obviously, a furre hater. I can also see that he hates furres by looking at his profile. I don't say anything at all. Two other furres sitting on a bench nearby start talking to each other saying they should leave before this furre hater starts something.
Then suddenly out of nowhere some little furre comes along and she goes up to these two other furres and says "u giev yiff?", whatever the bloody hell "giev" means. Now this is right in front of the obvious furre hater. I think shes acting like a bloody fool. The two furres look at her and just humor her. She keeps doing this, saying "u giev yiff?" and "i yiff" and various other phrases using poor grammar and atrocious chatspeak. I look at her profile and shes 23. I'm more than four years younger than her and shes acting incredibly immature and can't even bother to spell. I also notice in her profile that theres nothing furry about her, so I suspect she has alterior motives.
Now, the furre hater is just standing nearby and does nothing, nothing at all. This surprises me. He wasn't AFK because his away message wasn't on and he was turning from side to side occasionally. Then, to my horror, the girl goes up to the furre hater and says the same things to him. He just humors her and doesn't even make any snide remarks about furres in general. Once again, surprising if I do say so myself. But she keeps doing this, even going so far as to use a humping animation on him. So she continues continue to speak like an immature twelve year old, harassing this guy, and from this I suspect that shes just trying to make furres look bad. Once again, I am not a furre, but I have friends that are and I find this despicable. I know alot of furres who aren't like that.
This goes on for a while and I manage to fight through the awful lag. I was so angry, I decided to orbit her. I enter the key to orbit her and her name and nothing happens, it doesn't work. But apparently they were aware I attempted to orbit her. So next thing I know I'm outside the sim and I was ejected and banned - by none other than the furre hater she was harassing. I IM him and say "Why did you ban me?!" he says simply "you used weapons". In my defense, I would like to say that the place I was banned from did not say "No weapons" in it, in the sim name or in its description in search, which I actually find surprising. Also, I had no idea the furre hater was a mod there, if thats the correct term to use in SL, and also at the time I wasn't really considering an orbiter a weapon, although to be honest now I can kinda see it now. Also, he gave me no warning.
So I make these points to him and he simply does not respond back anymore, so I just hold in my anger and say nothing and close the IM screen. So now I IM the furre girl and, I should have expected this I suppose, shes acting like a bloody 12 year old again, using eye-aching chatspeak, saying things like "y u haet?" and repeating her aforementioned utterances.
Now I need to know what you all think. Do you think he was being a little harsh, or was being comepletely out of line? I find this whole ordeal very frustrating. Wait, so you are a furry, right?
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Kacen Khalamov
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08-01-2006 17:11
@ Jack Harker: Perhaps, and I do admit I have an anger problem, so I was surprised that I managed not to say any insults to my ejector through IM, my common sense overrided that, I kept myself from getting into more trouble. But I find it bizaare that they wouldn't eject someone for harassing like that but they would eject AND ban someone for using a weapon to attack a harasser in a zone that doesn't even state weapons are not allowed.
@ pandastrong Fairplay: No, I stated that I wasn't I just had a furre avatar, but I have friends that are furres so I found her behavior, which I was 85% sure was just to make furres look bad, despicable.
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Gabe Lippmann
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08-01-2006 17:12
So you were annoyed at the girl's behavior that wasn't specifically directed at you and thought the perfect response was to boot the person a good distance away. You were unsuccessful, but a retaliatory salvo against you was. I don't really see where you got a raw deal.
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Lo Jacobs
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08-01-2006 17:18
1) Despite wearing a furry head on a stick, the troll/orc guy was perfectly cordial to everyone (and, you could have asked him about it instead of assuming things).
2) The furry girl was speaking to someone else and the conversation was annoying you.
3) You decided to orbit someone who was annoying you on someone else's sim.
4) Duh.
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08-01-2006 17:18
From: Lo Jacobs 1) Despite wearing a furry head on a stick, the troll/orc guy was perfectly cordial to everyone (and, you could have asked him about it instead of assuming things).
2) The furry girl was speaking to someone else and the conversation was annoying you.
3) You decided to orbit someone who was annoying you on someone else's sim.
4) Duh. Wait, so you are a furry, right?
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Kacen Khalamov
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08-01-2006 17:20
@ Gabe Lippmann: I wouldn't call that a retaliatory salvo, as the person I attempted to attack was harassing the person who used the "retaliatory salvo" on me. Once again I must state that nothing in that area said I couldn't use weapons.
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Soleil Mirabeau
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08-01-2006 17:22
What Lo said. We at Pi love all furries. Big and small! 
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Kacen Khalamov
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08-01-2006 17:24
From: Lo Jacobs 1) Despite wearing a furry head on a stick, the troll/orc guy was perfectly cordial to everyone (and, you could have asked him about it instead of assuming things).
2) The furry girl was speaking to someone else and the conversation was annoying you.
3) You decided to orbit someone who was annoying you on someone else's sim.
4) Duh. I looked at the guy's profile and he was indeed an anti-furre, but see, I never made a SINGLE personal attack directed at him, so that is irrelevant. And he should have ATLEAST given me a warning, considering the fact that the orbit was unsuccesful (for unknown reasons, its as if I didn't attempt to orbit anyone).
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pandastrong Fairplay
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08-01-2006 17:24
From: Soleil Mirabeau What Lo said. We at Pi love all furries. Big and small!  Wait, so you are a jury, right?
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Joy Honey
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08-01-2006 17:24
From: pandastrong Fairplay Wait, so you are a furry, right? Wait, so you're a Gorean Vampire Furry, right?
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Gabe Lippmann
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08-01-2006 17:24
From: Kacen Khalamov @ Gabe Lippmann: I wouldn't call that a retaliatory salvo, as the person I attempted to attack was harassing the person who used the "retaliatory salvo" on me. Once again I must state that nothing in that area said I couldn't use weapons. Nonsense.
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Talon Lardner
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08-01-2006 17:24
From: Lo Jacobs 1) Despite wearing a furry head on a stick, the troll/orc guy was perfectly cordial to everyone (and, you could have asked him about it instead of assuming things).
2) The furry girl was speaking to someone else and the conversation was annoying you.
3) You decided to orbit someone who was annoying you on someone else's sim.
4) Duh. I would have intepreted the avi and the head on a stick as a generic barbarian... plus, prim furry heads are more common than prim human heads, not to mention easier to make. As for what went down... others said it best.
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Gabe Lippmann
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08-01-2006 17:25
From: Kacen Khalamov I looked at the guy's profile and he was indeed an anti-furre, but see, I never made a SINGLE personal attack directed at him, so that is irrelevant. And he should have ATLEAST given me a warning, considering the fact that the orbit was unsuccesful (for unknown reasons, its as if I didn't attempt to orbit anyone). Did you warn the girl prior to trying to orbit her?
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08-01-2006 17:26
From: Joy Honey Wait, so you're a Gorean Vampire Furry, right? Wait, so you are a, Wait so you are a right?
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Lo Jacobs
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08-01-2006 17:28
From: pandastrong Fairplay Wait, so you are a, Wait so you are a right? Wait, so when did you realize you were a transgendered woman?
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Soleil Mirabeau
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08-01-2006 17:29
From: Lo Jacobs Wait, so when did you realize you were a transgendered woman? He said it's supposed to happen today. *waits for panda to "come out"*
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Kacen Khalamov
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08-01-2006 17:31
From: Talon Lardner I would have intepreted the avi and the head on a stick as a generic barbarian... plus, prim furry heads are more common than prim human heads, not to mention easier to make.
As for what went down... others said it best. He WAS an anti furre, I read his profile, but that is of no importance. I never made ANY personal attacks against him and I advise you to re-read my first post. I do apologize if it is somewhat confusing.
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Soleil Mirabeau
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08-01-2006 17:32
From: Jack Harker I think you were trolled, and you fell for it. What he said. PANDA, LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN.don't be afraid to show us your true self!
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Joy Honey
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08-01-2006 17:32
From: Soleil Mirabeau He said it's supposed to happen today.
*waits for panda to "come out"* I thought everyone already knew about the mangina 
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Kacen Khalamov
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08-01-2006 17:34
From: Gabe Lippmann Nonsense. Care to elaborate?
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pandastrong Fairplay
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08-01-2006 17:35
wait!
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Soleil Mirabeau
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08-01-2006 17:35
*waits*
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Lucky Merit
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08-01-2006 17:37
You trying to orbit someone cuz you don't like how they speak is about the same as a griefer orbiting people just for kicks in my book. If you don't like what someone is saying or how they're acting you can try to communicate with them, or walk away. Whipping out a weapon is never the answer.
I think your "anger problem" did get the best of you.
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