[edited] & Paedophile Posts?
|
bella Ophelia
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 152
|
03-26-2006 02:47
It wasn't a sarcastic apology, I was suggesting you look at the number of attacts compared to your single approach to "we aren't saying we love child abuse, we are saying you used an avitar's name so you are bad." My point to you was simply to be clear if you are supporting a person who is being attacked for using an avitar's name during a heated argument regarding something only slightly life changing. If you are on my side of the issue, don't tell me my breath is bad during the argument... get it? From: Cristiano Midnight Save your false, sarcastic apologies. No one in this thread attacked you - they told you why the original thread was closed, and suggested to you how to be more effective in raising this issue. You just didn't want to hear any of it, so you have invented this nonesense that we have victimized you in this thread. I offered you full support in my statements about the subject at hand. I told you from the very beginning what I think about it, and how my own family has been affected by it. You choose to ignore that, and that is your own fault, I can't make you comprehend or pay attention to anything I am saying, but I won't for a second let you mischaracterize in any way, especially on a topic I take so seriously. You seem to be wavering back and forth about whether or not in world age play is a serious issue - I think it is one of incredible seriousness, and I have been unwavering in my statements about that in this thread, in spite of your strange attempts to portray the contrary.
|
bella Ophelia
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 152
|
03-26-2006 02:51
From: Jesrad Seraph I have a 10-y-o girl avatar and I strongly disagree with you. And there isn't anything you can do about it.
(Being openly provocative is religious duty for me.)
I don't even want to respond other than to suggest you seek help before someone else has to spend their life seeking help.
|
Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,463
|
03-26-2006 02:55
Wow, you did bite my bait very fast  I guess you didn't eve nread the rest of my post. I have a 10-y-o avatar and I think I'll always have, because it fits my inner self a lot. And I never ever had cybersex (zero interest in it). Yet you're right now openly calling me a pedophile. Way to win an argument 
_____________________
Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
|
Kim Anubis
The Magician
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 921
|
03-26-2006 02:55
From: bella Ophelia Yeah, you're right Kim, it's a bummer...
I'm glad you are one of the 1 out of 4 women in the US who got through your childhood safely.
Good luck to your children... let them know that actually, some people out here give a shit. One of the things I learned when I had my head shrunk was that having been mistreated as a kid doesn't give you license to behave like a jerk for the rest of your life. But keep on trollin' there, sport.
_____________________
http://www.TheMagicians.us 
|
bella Ophelia
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 152
|
03-26-2006 02:57
From: Kim Anubis One of the things I learned when I had my head shrunk was that having been mistreated as a kid doesn't give you license to behave like a jerk for the rest of your life. But keep on trollin' there, sport. Yet you do, huh?
|
katykiwi Moonflower
Esquirette
Join date: 5 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,489
|
03-26-2006 02:59
From: Cristiano Midnight However, unfortunately the law is not on your side on this one. Virtual child pornography has been ruled to not be illegal, only actual photographs of children.. Actually there have been more than 49 convictions in more than 25 different states for felony solicitation of a minor online and without any acutal meeting. If it can be shown the solicitation was made to a minor, there does not have to be actual contact or a face to face meeting. Chat logs were used for the convicitons after appropriate investigation and authentication. And it has also been established in these cases that cybersex chat constituted a sexual act and solicitaiton of the minor for a sexual act. The first step is to report the adult who is demonstrating pedophiliac behavior and then an adult police detective will engage the suspect online. The officer will present himself/herself as a minor in order to see if the suspect solicits the presumed minor for sex. Some call it entrapment, I dont see it that way. The officers testimony and authentication of the chat logs are usually enough to convict for solicitaiton.
|
bella Ophelia
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 152
|
03-26-2006 03:00
From: Jesrad Seraph Wow, you did bite my bait very fast  I guess you didn't eve nread the rest of my post. I have a 10-y-o avatar and I think I'll always have, because it fits my inner self a lot. And I never ever had cybersex (zero interest in it). Yet you're right now openly calling me a pedophile. Way to win an argument  Well, I may or may not be the only one who doesn't believe you... I could be wrong... I'm sure a lot of adults love to walk around as children in a sexually charged atmosphere like SL with no sexual interest... no sexual interest... hmmm... and when were you fixed?
|
bella Ophelia
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 152
|
03-26-2006 03:02
Yes... or the Linden's could simply say, "you know what... that's just wrong... delete it." Why so many arguments to protect this fantasy? From: katykiwi Moonflower Actually there have been more than 49 convictions in more than 25 different states for felony solicitation of a minor online and without any acutal meeting.
If it can be shown the solicitation was made to a minor, there does not have to be actual contact or a face to face meeting. Chat logs were used for the convicitons after appropriate investigation and authentication.
The first step is to report the adult who is demonstrating pedophiliac behavior and then an adult police detective will engage the suspect online. The officer will present himself/herself as a minor in order to see if the suspect solicits the presumed minor for sex. Some call it entrapment, I dont see it that way. The officers testimony and authentication of the chat logs are usually enough to convict for solicitaiton.
|
Kim Anubis
The Magician
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 921
|
03-26-2006 03:03
From: bella Ophelia Well, I may or may not be the only one who doesn't believe you... I could be wrong... I'm sure a lot of adults love to walk around as children in a sexually charged atmosphere like SL with no sexual interest... no sexual interest... hmmm... and when were you fixed? I was spayed last year.
_____________________
http://www.TheMagicians.us 
|
Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,463
|
03-26-2006 03:04
From: bella Ophelia Well, I may or may not be the only one who doesn't believe you... I could be wrong... I'm sure a lot of adults love to walk around as children in a sexually charged atmosphere like SL with no sexual interest... no sexual interest... hmmm... and when were you fixed? What do you mean, "fixed" ?  And, yes, I'm confident in telling you you are wrong about me 
_____________________
Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
|
Kim Anubis
The Magician
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 921
|
03-26-2006 03:07
"Fixed," you know, what they call it when they spay or neuter a cat. I don't think "fixed" is really the word for it, though. My cat functioned perfectly well before she was "fixed," except for the yowling. But you know, I yowled kinda like that too when I had PMS! 
_____________________
http://www.TheMagicians.us 
|
bella Ophelia
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 152
|
03-26-2006 03:09
From: Jesrad Seraph What do you mean, "fixed" ?  And, yes, I'm confident in telling you you are wrong about me  I'm sorry... I realize that some people reading have a tough time with words. I was referring to your genitalia and whether or not it functioned correctly. Most of us adults have a sex drive that carries through most aspects of our lives. Even while driving home from work we tend to think up sexual situations or at least while we sit along at a computer for an hour... my suggestion/assumption was that if you are logging onto SL as a 10-year-old girl with even 1/100th of the sexual content being presented to me in the scope of one hour, you are either a neuter or a perv not to have any sexual thoughts during that time... I'm sure you're just a neuter.
|
Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 5,634
|
03-26-2006 03:10
This thread is being locked for Linden Review. From: someone Reposting – If a moderator removes your post, do not repost it elsewhere. Do not repost threads that have been locked or deleted and do not repost content that has been edited or deleted by a moderator. Furthermore, please do not post a "why did my post get removed" post. Send any further discussion regarding post removals to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email].
_____________________
I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say will be misquoted and used against me.--------------- Zapoteth Designs, Temotu (100,50)--------------- 
|
Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
|
03-26-2006 15:45
bella, I apologize for not giving you a warmer welcome to the SL Forums--I see that it's only recently you started posting here. The SL Forums have Guidelines to be adhered to. This thread will remain locked. As searches will turn up, not just with this topic but several others (e.g. feuds between inworld families, business disputes), "naming names" is not allowed regardless of what the subject of discussion is. Which is why I last posted: Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
Related to that, I like to make myself available for communication. You can IM me. I'll also edit my name out from the topic title--it feels strange to do so but it's consistent with the Guidelines. Regarding the very serious topic of actual children here, the Main Grid of Second Life is for those 18 years and older. Should you find someone who admits they are underage (a hunch isn't enough), please don't hesitate to go to HELP menu ---> REPORT ABUSE with the INCLUDE CHAT HISTORY checkbox ticked, and also, let a Linden Liaison know ASAP. There should be NO minors on the Main Grid. There is, however, a Teen Grid for those who are 13-17 years old-- Teen Second Life. Blue Linden is the Community Manager of it and he welcomes any questions or concerns you may have. And for those even younger than 13 years old who should not be on either grid, Linden Lab and Second Life complies with COPPA, the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act. Should there be solid evidence of "real-life" illegal activity found, contact your local authorities with the proof, ask them to get in touch with us. It's in the best interests of all involved.
|