SL must be careful to protect ethics on the web

The word for the day, is reading comprehension. I have stated more than once I do NOT agree with LL about getting rid of the CC verification. Hell I even participated in a protest... WEEKS AGO. I have said it doesn't matter whether I or anyone else agrees, the decision has been made by the only people with any real power.

It's done, it's over. You missed the boat. That is the point you keep ignoring while judging other's sexual habits to keep the thread going. (Which I'm now ending my participation in as I'm growing bored with talking to a wall here)

I'll say it one more time, so you can't possibly pretend to have missed it.

Whether anyone agrees or disagrees with LL's decision does not matter anymore. The decision has been made. You are not going to change it.

Bye bye now, best of luck to ya. Since you clearly dislike SL so much, I'm sure you'll find something you like better. Enjoy.

Allana, mookid/Iamaright isn't interested in reading comprehension. They're interested in screaming imprecations from their soapbox.

wow it took you a while to find something you felt you could make a point on.. welcome back Phedre.

Fair enough to the guy that's given up because he was told no. If enough people or the media don't just sit on their arse and do nothing about this it will get changed.

Apathy is bad news and is destroying the fabric of our societies. Learn to apply some compassion and determination to your life.

Stand up for what you believe in, don't bend over and take one up the chuff just because your too lazy to fight.

Actually, I was spending some time reminiscing with my exboyfriend and my husband.

I think you're confusing "too lazy to fight" with "having no interest in fighting in what mookid widget believes", which is something that won't return, and didn't do what you thought in the first place.

right... you're starting to babble somewhat. thanks for coming though. appreciate it

I have to admit I haven't read all 127 posts and replies to this thread..............my butt got tired and my wrist started acting up. I voted yes.........but I guess I voted that way for other reasons than the major proponants of the yes vote on this subject. My purpose for wanting some type of verifible way to register an account is that there is way for law enforcement (and even SL) to track either the person actually responsible or the legally responsible (the parent of a minor child) should anything ugly happen involving the child/adult mix that is present at the moment. And, believe me, it's just a matter of time tell it does happen. With a totally open registration there is absolutely no way anyone could find a pediphile. Does anyone seriously believe that there are none in SL right now? When there is no way to identify the real person behind the virtual person, the creeps and trouble makers will flock............and they are flocking in now. In droves.

Of course it would be nice to know without a doubt that LL would treat such identifable information the same way online banking businesses do. But at some point one has to choose to either jump in and trust the company or not. I chose to trust. And because I did so, I know I'm tracable............my actions, if inappropriate, can be traced right back to my front door. That's the way it should be.

But, as a side...........with the unverifible accounts I can not be absolutely sure my behavior is appropriate 100% if he time. Afterall, that John Middleage that I'm at a mature club with and dancing in an adult manner might actually be Johnny Adolescent. And I'm tracable.........not condusive to much trust with the new "no payment info on file" accounts. It sort of spoils it, huh?

Anyone who disagrees with you is "babbling", though.

Besides which, I'm really not; credit card verification gave us a false sense of security. It didn't actually /provide/ security. LL is not bringing it back.

Is that clear enough for you? (I'm betting not.)

Peggy, I believe, though I am not technogeek enough to be certain, that you can be traced using the information your computer provides to the LL servers.

Hardware hash? Naw, I have a custom made computer............and I plan on upgrading in the future. The hardware does not fit any manufacturer profile right now and should I put in larger hard drive and faster graphics card and maybe a new NIC........it will fit even less. Besides who says I might not sell this machine at some point.........maybe give it away? There needs to be some type of tracable way for the owner of the account...for everyone's safety. Hardware hash is like Microsoft's Genuine Windows product thing........only tracks the computer as it is stored in the data base. Change key components in the hardware and you have to go through a process of reverification. I know, I just did it with Microsoft a few weeks ago.

Don't. Feed. The. Trolls.

Who's trolling?

Ok I know I said I was done but I can't resist, this is almost amusing. My internet is acting spotty today and I'm having trouble staying in SL, so chalk it up to a bit of boredom until I get that fixed.


*laughing* Not apathy or laziness, simply the comprehension that I do not have the right to dictate how other people run their businesses, the point you still refuse to acknowledge.

In the real world there are things I can do to try to change government policies. LL is not a government. Grab a hammer and see if you can pound that into your head. LL is a private company, you are a customer not a citizen.

If I do not like my local radio shack's sales policies I can tell them so (and when this was still relevent I did tell LL so) but I can not force them to do it my way. If I am unhappy with that, I can choose to shop elsewhere or I can even start my own competitive business. Or I can get over it, move on and make my own personal changes accordingly.

So seriously, try to answer the question. You signed up in April, well before LL instituted the no CC policy. You apparently missed the whole hoopla over it and are now coming in after the fact demanding more hoopla. So why do you believe that you have the right to come along after policy is made and demand the company change it to suit you when they refused everyone else who asked and then ridicule those people for not jumping right back on the bandwagon with you and asking again?

Last line first: Because CC verification bans legitimate adults from the grid.



As to the rest of your tripe, you've used SL a day or two? Sorry, but you are one voice of many, obviously with no real investment in where things are going. 2/3rds of what you post is insulting and counter-productive to your points. If you want serious discussion... learn to leave the back-handed insults out.

I participated in this thread because I am concerned about the issues on both sides of the age verification problem.... but now that you've confessed (in all but name) that you are both an ignorant fucktard(tm) and a troll, there's no hope for this thread.

It was a nice attempt on a serious topic... sad to see it devolve so quickly.

Now, if you're not going to use the service, please, be a sweetie and step away from the forums that relate to it.


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another e-hero. I bet your cyber dong is HUGE aswell.. aha. you people are great, do you really think that I actually give a damn what your opinions about me are? I bet you don't care what I think about you.. which is why I haven't actually DIRECTED any of my 'insults' at anyone specifically (bar my comments to one or two people who needed to be frustrated into continuing to participate in the thread) - my comments are known as facetious and throw-away. They are communicated as such and you are a idiot if you treat them as anything else.

If any chubby trekkies commit harykary as a result of my words I'll consider myself providing a public service. (social darwinism).

Some of you lot are so far up your (grossly over sized) arses it's umbelievable. Posting boring posts supposed to sound 'intellectual' and cutting is just so boring and dorky its depressing. Try being funny or witty for a change.

I can DO and SAY what I want.. just the same as you can.. if you don't like what i'm saying IGNORE ME. Don't attempt to retaliate with the kind of "backhanded insults" you accuse me of.

I really don't think i've been that offensive - I may have been a bit cheeky but hell get over it you fat tossers

your internet service provider can provide the address of a broadband connection to relevant authorities (e.g. police) if they want/need it.

That's actually alot of what I was trying to say. Thank you

*passes you a little relax that ass herb and tries again*

Really, give it a shot...
So seriously, try to answer the question. You signed up in April, well before LL instituted the no CC policy. You apparently missed the whole hoopla over it and are now coming in after the fact demanding more hoopla. So why do you believe that you have the right to come along after policy is made and demand the company change it to suit you when they refused everyone else who asked and then ridicule those people for not jumping right back on the bandwagon with you and asking again?

Wow, I leave for the day, and come back to this crap. Why didn't you tell me you were running for King of the Assclowns? I woulda voted for ya.

I have a custom made computer as well, and while a hash is easially changed, it is not easially spoofed. I still think that this is the best way to ban accounts, after all, who has that many spare parts laying around and is THAT dedicated to griefing SL?

only occured to me how wrong it is to get rid of that the other day. I don't follow the forum it doesn't interest me.

sorry? lol

Weather two peices of data interacting with each other is reproduction or not isn't the issue I was hitting on, the issue I was hitting on is "ITS NOT GONNA WARP LITTLE JOHNNEY's MIND IF HE SEE IT" And yes just like a Liberal you dodge the real issue.

Very good, this may possibly be progress. You answered the first half of the question. You noticed the problem too late and until today you didn't care.

Now lets see if we can stay focused and answer the second part.

Why do you feel you have the right to dictate company policy for a company you do not own and have openly acknowledged you do not care about, when others before you have already been told and have accepted that they can not?

I dont, i have the right to point it out and ask for a decent explination other than "we just wont and that's that.". I'm not trying to flog a dead horse I'm looking for an explanation as to why

Becasue I'm sure it makes the venture capitalists happy. Linden Lab IS a business.

Oh well if that's all you wanted, why didn't ya just say so? ... here you go.

http://secondlife.blogs.com/change/2006/06/update_open_reg.html#more


Personally I disagreed with their reasoning and I said so at the time but.. what's done is done. There you have it.