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Aden Lasek
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Join date: 19 Jul 2006
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07-22-2006 04:35
Okay, look. I know I'm new, and I also know I can't do much to stop you guys, but take it easy on the Lindens. Linden Labs made Second Life for us, the users. Therefore, we should be happy. When they update it, they're not intentionally trying to fuck it up, everyone here knows that. They're trying to enhance Second Life, yet all of you complain when one of their enhancements go wrong, and its down for a while. Just be happy you have the damn thing to begin with, because if we're not satisfied with it, perhaps LL should just shut down Second Life? I bet you'd all regret the constant hateful comments you make, then! They're trying, and I know it can be a huge bother when you're constructing something with all the bugs and stuff, but trust me, they'll get worked out, if you like the goddamn game, stop bashing the Lindens. Otherwise, get the fuck out.

-Aden.
Lewis Nerd
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Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
07-22-2006 05:07
Maybe when you're paying out lots of money to use something that doesn't function correctly, you'd understand some of our frustration, especially when things that have been perfectly fine for a long long time suddenly decide to stop working as they have been, and are intended to work.

I'm only paying $35 a month at the moment but some people are paying hundreds of dollars to play this game.

Lewis
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rain Bradley
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Join date: 29 May 2006
Posts: 117
07-22-2006 05:18
From: Aden Lasek
Okay, look. I know I'm new, and I also know I can't do much to stop you guys, but take it easy on the Lindens. Linden Labs made Second Life for us, the users. Therefore, we should be happy. When they update it, they're not intentionally trying to fuck it up, everyone here knows that. They're trying to enhance Second Life, yet all of you complain when one of their enhancements go wrong, and its down for a while. Just be happy you have the damn thing to begin with, because if we're not satisfied with it, perhaps LL should just shut down Second Life? I bet you'd all regret the constant hateful comments you make, then! They're trying, and I know it can be a huge bother when you're constructing something with all the bugs and stuff, but trust me, they'll get worked out, if you like the goddamn game, stop bashing the Lindens. Otherwise, get the fuck out.

-Aden.



ok Aden please step away from the keyboard..I am so saving this post for when you get mad enuff at the stuff going on to post in here..be real careful of the words you say..they taste bitter when you have to swallow them twice.... personally I think your an alt...nuff said.....

rain...
Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
Join date: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 4,219
07-22-2006 05:27
OMG, I can't believe this! How dare you?

LL must be sworn at, belittled and generally abused or nothing will go my way.

Get back here and post something more appropriate. At least you could try to fit in.
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rain Bradley
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Join date: 29 May 2006
Posts: 117
07-22-2006 05:31
From: Gabe Lippmann
OMG, I can't believe this! How dare you?

LL must be sworn at, belittled and generally abused or nothing will go my way.

Get back here and post something more appropriate. At least you could try to fit in.



I am sitting here laughing...Yea what Gabe said.....I am learning not to drink my tea when I read the forums...


rain
Aden Lasek
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Join date: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 11
07-22-2006 05:33
You think I'm an alt, eh? Wrong. That's all I'm saying because I'm trying not to get angry because everyone thinks I'm an alt account of whoever when all i have is COMMON SENSE.
rain Bradley
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Join date: 29 May 2006
Posts: 117
common sense ,,,,pfftttt
07-22-2006 05:36
From: Aden Lasek
You think I'm an alt, eh? Wrong. That's all I'm saying because I'm trying not to get angry because everyone thinks I'm an alt account of whoever when all i have is COMMON SENSE.


actually yes i do you are way to knowledgeable about the workings of the game not to be ... I am in the game since October tho this is a new av...and I don't know half of what you just said....I look at your profile and where your location is and i say when you pay what we do then tell us to leave the game..now you riled me keep going im sure others will take you to task quick enuff....


rain
Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
07-22-2006 05:38
From: Aden Lasek
You think I'm an alt, eh? Wrong. That's all I'm saying because I'm trying not to get angry because everyone thinks I'm an alt account of whoever when all i have is COMMON SENSE.


It's just you appear to have a tremendous amount of insight for a 3-4 day old player, that's all.

Lewis
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Lupus Delacroix
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07-22-2006 05:44
From: Lewis Nerd
Maybe when you're paying out lots of money to use something that doesn't function correctly, you'd understand some of our frustration, especially when things that have been perfectly fine for a long long time suddenly decide to stop working as they have been, and are intended to work.

I'm only paying $35 a month at the moment but some people are paying hundreds of dollars to play this game.

Lewis


Quoted for emphasis, when its YOUR money captain free account you may then take me to task on what I do/don't do.
Declan Barnett
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Join date: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1
07-22-2006 05:45
Like you said... You're new. I had very much the same opinion when I first got into SL but I've grown to have a fair amount of concern with the Lindens. Especially being a Mac user that's constantly ignored when update time comes around. If you review many of the recent policy changes, you'll see that it's been a loooonnng time since the Lindens made any changes that benefitted users more than Linden Labs.
Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,433
07-22-2006 05:50
<shrugs>

Really, you have three courts. The courts of screamers, whiners, cheerleaders, and nulls. Each court was named by the other two, if you can get the joke.

The Screamers complain about everything and anything. They hate change, they hate it when things stay the same, they hate it when they hear it.

The Whiners ask for things, and complain when they don't get it. They think that SL belongs to them and them alone, and that everything being done should be to benefit them.

The Cheerleaders love everything there is about second life. They weep for joy at every upgrade and defend every bug. They are the natural prey of the Whiners and Screamers, and are often hunted to extinction.

The Nulls just play second life, do what they think is fun, tell LL when there are problems, and try to not get drawn into every little problem. They really don't count, since people never pay attention to them anyway.


I personally see that as the ecosystem of not only SL, but every other community on or off the internet. You can look back through a person's posts and see which direction a person leans, and take their comments with the proper amount of salt.

Even my own.

Regadless, each court will continue to do what they do best, so don't worry about it. It never ends, so just go and do what you enjoy!

Oh...

And if anyone thinks I'm talking about them especially, I wasn't. Really. Seriously.

(Anyone think I should add trolls in there, or are they a subgroup?)

:p
Musuko Massiel
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 435
07-22-2006 05:54
"You think I'm an alt, eh? Wrong."

That you even know what an alt is suggests that you are an alt.

Musuko
rain Bradley
Registered User
Join date: 29 May 2006
Posts: 117
07-22-2006 05:56
From: Foolish Frost
<shrugs>

Really, you have three courts. The courts of screamers, whiners, cheerleaders, and nulls. Each court was named by the other two, if you can get the joke.

The Screamers complain about everything and anything. They hate change, they hate it when things stay the same, they hate it when they hear it.

The Whiners ask for things, and complain when they don't get it. They think that SL belongs to them and them alone, and that everything being done should be to benefit them.

The Cheerleaders love everything there is about second life. They weep for joy at every upgrade and defend every bug. They are the natural prey of the Whiners and Screamers, and are often hunted to extinction.

The Nulls just play second life, do what they think is fun, tell LL when there are problems, and try to not get drawn into every little problem. They really don't count, since people never pay attention to them anyway.


I personally see that as the ecosystem of not only SL, but every other community on or off the internet. You can look back through a person's posts and see which direction a person leans, and take their comments with the proper amount of salt.

Even my own.

Regadless, each court will continue to do what they do best, so don't worry about it. It never ends, so just go and do what you enjoy!

Oh...

And if anyone thinks I'm talking about them especially, I wasn't. Really. Seriously.

(Anyone think I should add trolls in there, or are they a subgroup?)

:p




*changes her name to "anyone" and glares at Foolish....giggles usually i do take it with a grain of salt in all posts i see the good and bad...Thanks for making me smile....He caught me in tween cups of tea..... troll poll would be good...what was the question again?

rain
Aldo Stern
wandering madman
Join date: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 121
07-22-2006 06:09
From: Foolish Frost
<shrugs>

(Anyone think I should add trolls in there, or are they a subgroup?)

:p


Hey Foolish, nice summary of the native flora and fauna of the board.

Perhaps the sub-species "trollus interneticus" might fit into another possible category, "The Entertainers" which consists of those of us who use the theatrical potential of the forums as a means of attempting to provide amusement to others, or simply amusing themselves. This includes of course other sub-groups such as Comedians, Drama Royalty, Intellectuals, Doodlers and Purveyors of Pie.

Generally, those of us who are usually in these subgroups are "mostly harmless" as the book says.
Aodhan McDunnough
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Join date: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 1,518
07-22-2006 06:13
Foolish,

You forgot the Nulls who know how to be heard.
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Briana Dawson
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Join date: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,855
07-22-2006 06:22
From: Aden Lasek
Okay, look. I know I'm new, and I also know I can't do much to stop you guys, but take it easy on the Lindens. Linden Labs made Second Life for us, the users. Therefore, we should be happy. When they update it, they're not intentionally trying to fuck it up, everyone here knows that. They're trying to enhance Second Life, yet all of you complain when one of their enhancements go wrong, and its down for a while. Just be happy you have the damn thing to begin with, because if we're not satisfied with it, perhaps LL should just shut down Second Life? I bet you'd all regret the constant hateful comments you make, then! They're trying, and I know it can be a huge bother when you're constructing something with all the bugs and stuff, but trust me, they'll get worked out, if you like the goddamn game, stop bashing the Lindens. Otherwise, get the fuck out.

-Aden.

I don't think you are an old enough to have an opinion on the matter worth listening to. You are still feeling all warm and fuzzy and excited about the new metaverse you discovered with Second Life.

WE the people, many of us who have been here for months and YEARS, have been dealing with updates since version 1.0. We have experienced good updates and bad updates. It's our right to complain. We have put massive time into creating content and guiding the development of SL by our own actions.

YOU try taking it easy on the Lindens after you have been dealing with loads of buggy updates for nearly 3 years.

Briana Dawson
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Harlan Drake
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07-22-2006 06:27
From: Musuko Massiel
"You think I'm an alt, eh? Wrong."

That you even know what an alt is suggests that you are an alt.

Musuko


While I won't argue whether or not this is an alt, I'd have to disagree with this statement. "Alt" is a pretty common term in online gaming.
Briana Dawson
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07-22-2006 06:31
From: Harlan Drake
While I won't argue whether or not this is an alt, I'd have to disagree with this statement. "Alt" is a pretty common term in online gaming.

I didnt know what an alt was until I came to SL.

Briana Dawson
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Foolish Frost
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07-22-2006 06:34
From: Aodhan McDunnough
Foolish,

You forgot the Nulls who know how to be heard.



<grins> Did you say something?

:p
Musuko Massiel
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Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 435
07-22-2006 06:39
"While I won't argue whether or not this is an alt, I'd have to disagree with this statement. "Alt" is a pretty common term in online gaming."

You wrongly assume that all people new to SL are already familiar with other online games.

Musuko.
Gabe Lippmann
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07-22-2006 06:45
From: Foolish Frost
Regadless


This is an awesome new word. I will put it to use immediately :D
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Foolish Frost
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07-22-2006 06:47
From: Gabe Lippmann
This is an awesome new word. I will put it to use immediately :D



You making fun of my accent, mister? :mad:
Gabe Lippmann
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07-22-2006 06:47
From: Musuko Massiel
"While I won't argue whether or not this is an alt, I'd have to disagree with this statement. "Alt" is a pretty common term in online gaming."

You wrongly assume that all people new to SL are already familiar with other online games.

Musuko.


It is a given that a day on this forum will introduce you to the term "alt". It is assumed that if you don't know what it is, you have internet access and can look it up. Unless you are one of the sorry saps on this forum without a computer.
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Dnate Mars
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07-22-2006 08:07
There is some truth to what Aden says. But you also have to look at it from the standpoint of how many people post to the forums compared to the number of people the don't. Then you also have to look at why someone would post a comment. The forums become a very negative place because of the actions of a few. I also believe that some people just like to be heard. There have been good updates and bad updates. I remember after on update I couldn't log in for about 3 days. There were other updates that really screwed things up. 1.5 and 1.7 seem to come to mind right now. What really can be done? Posting a bunch of words to a forums is not going to make LL change the path they are going on. They have never rolled back to a older version because people didn't like it. I still am amazed that people will still call for it to be done. If you are truly dissatisfied then I do suggest that you let your money do the talking. That is the end is the most powerful thing that a user has against a company.

Yeah, I guess I am somewhat of a cheerleader, but I do believe that LL is for the most part doing what is best for all involved.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-22-2006 08:10
From: Dnate Mars


Yeah, I guess I am somewhat of a cheerleader, but I do believe that LL is for the most part doing what is best for all involved.


Then they can go back to the old snapshot system.

I wasn't aware ignoring bug comments and complaints in preview was for the better of all.
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