
I small park, that you can get your daily paper (from the infohub) a park where the paper can be discussed without have to do something. I dont know if it will work but I do know the infohubs cant compete with whats out there already.
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01-30-2006 08:56
hmmm, what would I like to see at the Infohubs... this got me thinking, ya I am capable of it once in awhile
![]() I small park, that you can get your daily paper (from the infohub) a park where the paper can be discussed without have to do something. I dont know if it will work but I do know the infohubs cant compete with whats out there already. _____________________
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-30-2006 09:19
This is probably daft of me but it would help me formulate an idea if I knew why we need people go to the InfoHubs. Is it because we want them to see the advertising signs? Is it to get info provided by LL?
It can't simply be that we are providing something for people to do, can it? There are things to do all over. Is this a competing venue to resident parks, ponds or visitor centers, then? Seriously, can I have a glimpse at what we are trying to achieve? Don't get me wrong, I would love the InfoHub to be of value in some way, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what that entails. Thing to add to InfoHub that people will come to gawk at....Lindens loitering around playing horseshoes or bocce and chatting ![]() _____________________
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Aaron Levy
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01-30-2006 10:07
Hmmmm.... actually, Torley, I think the Linden money ball might be a pretty cool idea.
Eliminate the basic stipend -- the L$50 for logging in one. Keep premium stipends as-is. Have dispensors at infohubs where basic users have to go to get their weekly stipend. When they log in for the first time in a week, they get an IM telling them what infohub to visit to get their weekly stipend. They have to go to that infohub and click on the stipend dispensor to get it. What does this do? Requires someone to log in and actually do SOMETHING for the money. And for those who don't bother, that's less money going into the economy, helping curb inflation. _____________________
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Lucifer Baphomet
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01-30-2006 10:11
To get people to go to the infohubs you need to have something people want, but can only get, there. My idea is an official Linden Lottery - much like the California State Lottery. An important key to the idea is that the only dispensers of the $1L tickets will be at the infohubs. A portion of the proceeds from the lottery can go to pay for maintenance of the infohub and lottery system. People that buy a lottery ticket can, if they choose, text input the name of a charity (RL or SL) that they would like to see another portion (percentage?) of the lottery go to. Whatever is the highest ranked customer requested charity at the end of each lottery period will win the donation. And of course the winning ticket holder would get their portion. This is a phenomenal idea, think if everyone was to buy one ticket, that would also work as an excellent currency sink. So, it potentially benefits the economy as well as the lottery winners. Hell, its money moving, it benefits the economy money sink or not. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2006 12:05
conversion of Infohub into a mini-sandbox 'cause as we know, sandboxes are where people go This would work. Sandboxes ARE one place people go. I suggested at one time having a "post office" at the site of whate were then the doomed telehubs. The idea is that you would have to go to a post office at an infohub to pick up your mail: that would include your stipend, objects dropped on your profile, cash you bought at LindeX, and email to "firstname.lastname@postoffice.secondlife.com". let's see... Leave an avatar-bot at each hub, shaped like a camera, generating a media stream, and have a couple of media textured telescreens at each hub showing the camera view at other hubs. Kind of like the kiosks in Gibson's "Lucky Dragon" stores in _All Tomorow's Parties_. How about rental vehicles? For infohubs near roads, you could rent a cool car. For others, airplanes or boats. L$10 or so per hour? |
Phoenix Psaltery
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01-30-2006 12:25
A broken LindeX ATM that would give you free L$ when you punched in the word "T-O-R-L-E-Y" on the keypad.
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Burke Prefect
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01-30-2006 13:05
A unigue design for each hub. With some designated 'shopping', 'discussion', 'learning','greifing', etc designed with that in mind.
Dispersal of different catagories of free stuff in each hub. Quick TP option to other hubs. .... oh wait, we still don't have llTeleportAgent, do we? |
Sarg Bjornson
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01-30-2006 13:07
A nude Phoenix
No, ok *ehem* Serious proposal follows: How about a temporary art gallery? A gallery where people could showcase some of their artistic RL creations (I'm mainly thinking about paintings), as well as some other things like SL sculptures. I'm sure many people would be interested in showing their paintings in SL and I think it would draw a lot of Residents. Perhaps some of the art could even be for sale, attarcting too those looking to shop. And then a percentage of the sales could be donated to some sort of charity (preferably one related to culture). Dunno, just a random idea that crossed my mind, but I think it could have potential if many people like it and contribute to develop it |
katykiwi Moonflower
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01-30-2006 13:35
I think infohubs should have a new member orientation.
One of my favorite places when I was a newer member was the Linden sponsored freebie area in Stillman. I still like going there to see whats been added. Yes i know i can hear people saying there are so many freebie places already, but with the exception of Yadnis junkyard, they are not well organized and are mostly stores with a few freebie items designed to draw in shoppers. But, what if Yadni closed his junkyard. or any of the member freebie sites were closed. The one constant in SL is that you can count on change, and with all the new members there certainly is room for more sites that can help them get started. I think the infohubs should be LInden sponsored freebie and how to info areas with the same tutorials that are available on Help Island. By LInden sponsored I dont mean a Linden store where a few preferred members have an item featured and the rest of the members have their items on the ground outside the store. I have in mind a place like Stillman which is like an SL version of a freebie flea market. Its really fun to go there. I know Jeska and Jessie have stated the new member class and resource system as it is now is sufficient, but I am actually out in world and I come across tons of members who dont know how to do the basics and have some silly idea that the Shelter is a shopping mall and club, maybe because thats what you see when you go there to attend a class. I even encountered a new Linden liason who didnt know he had to put a prim into his inventory before dragging the contents out of the prim, so I think a greater and more obvious presence of tutorials and how to notes are warranted, but I digress. Why not make a daily or weekly sign at info hubs that lists classes and times so they are easier to find. Why not have many places new members can go to for free items set up like Stillman. The free item lots can be cleared regularly to allow a rotation of a variety of items. Why not let members put prims there with free items they want to share. Right now there is no reason to socialize at a infohub and lookign to make it a meeting spot for socialization seems odd to me, because thats what the rest of SL already offers. _____________________
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01-30-2006 13:43
These are excellent suggestions!
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Theo Lament
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01-30-2006 13:45
A unigue design for each hub. With some designated 'shopping', 'discussion', 'learning' That is pretty close to what I immediately thought of. Small class rooms, discussion areas, contest display areas, parks, memorials. Places you could rent for weddings, parties, events, or classes. Perhaps even interested Linden could get their own info hub to display and promote things they like. Kind of like when you go to a music or book store and employees have a section for their pick’s of the week. _____________________
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Jesse Linden
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01-30-2006 14:18
Why not make a daily or weekly sign at info hubs that lists classes and times so they are easier to find. Why not have many places new members can go to for free items set up like Stillman. The free item lots can be cleared regularly to allow a rotation of a variety of items. Why not let members put prims there with free items they want to share. yes, I like this suggestion. A listing of eductional events at the Infohubs is a good idea... We're thinking of InfoHub usage in two ways based on parcel size...the smaller sized InfoHubs could function as information centers while the larger InfoHubs could be used as Public Commons (as in the Boston Commons). Its a good point that there are already many many areas to socialize in Second Life but we could use more Linden owned community spaces (besides the WA and sandboxes) spaced throughout the mainland for meeting spaces, small-scale building and presentations etc. |
Eggy Lippmann
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01-30-2006 17:43
Why not assign a mentor or three to each of the large infohubs and make it clear to newbies they should go there for help?
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-30-2006 17:54
Here I am being obtuse again, but why do we want people at the InfoHubs?
N00b help stations? Social hub to create more cohesive community? Because, becuase, because, because fo the wonderful things they do?..... _____________________
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Phoenix Psaltery
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01-30-2006 18:05
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01-30-2006 18:15
Here I am being obtuse again, but why do we want people at the InfoHubs? N00b help stations? Social hub to create more cohesive community? Because, becuase, because, because fo the wonderful things they do?..... Because 99% of people don't read the forums or the MOTD and then they complain that nobody warned them ![]() LL needs to keep in touch with the userbase. _____________________
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01-30-2006 18:36
Because 99% of people don't read the forums or the MOTD and then they complain that nobody warned them ![]() LL needs to keep in touch with the userbase. OK, I'm with you. So... 1. If the info is valuable will people not just learn to go get it there? 2. Is a scavenger hunt the best way to disseminate LL info? If the main purpose is to provide available LL info, then people will learn to get it there by making that fact apparent. Or, you could look at all the available ways to get this info that people do not avail themselves of and wonder if they will ever bother. _____________________
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Siggy Romulus
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01-30-2006 19:41
News updates - not player written shite - but what announcements on updates - whats being developed - whats being worked on, when the next town hall is .. that kinda thing.
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01-30-2006 19:41
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-30-2006 19:47
The reason to try to get people to go to InfoHubs is to help make up for the loss of traffic in the surrounding areas due to the elimination of telehubs.
Some of the ideas presented to attract people to the InfoHubs have nothing to do with information. The idea of creating a place in Second Life that acts like a town square overlooks the role of geography and physics in the function of the town square. Making something available only at the InfoHubs just means not making it available somewhere else. People who want information on most aspects of SL could use the existing efficient web pages and groups to find the information. If they don't read the forums and don't use the wikis and don't join groups like Scripters of Second Life or Builders of Second Life and don't ask Live Help to ask a mentor to teach them how to build, why are they going to go to an InfoHub? One thing that could be at InfoHubs would be Linden avatars. Linden groupies might stop by to say hello. One could have a shooting gallery with a different forum resident moderator at each to be the target. This might not draw a big crowd but there would probably be a few people who would come to shoot them over and over and over in an extremely repetitive manner. If bringing traffic to the places near the InfoHubs is the real goal, rather than having people actually on the InfoHub parcel itself, then any lottery tickets or other material benefits would need to be obtainable only at the parcels nearby rather than on the InfoHub parcel itself. Why stop at a nearby shop when the world is instantly available through teleport? If the goal is bring traffic to the neighboring areas then you might not want to make it where you can teleport to the Infohub. You might want to make it where you have to pass through the former telehub landowner's shops to get to the InfoHub. _____________________
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01-30-2006 21:58
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I want to see one of these!
01-31-2006 11:24
Jump Station - Doesn't the first frame of this strip look TOTALLY SecondLife?
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Sinatra Cartier
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01-31-2006 11:47
This is a phenomenal idea, think if everyone was to buy one ticket, that would also work as an excellent currency sink. So, it potentially benefits the economy as well as the lottery winners. Hell, its money moving, it benefits the economy money sink or not. Thanks for the vote of possiblilty Lucifer. Yes, people will definatly trust, play and support an Official SL (Linden run) Lottery. Yes, it would have many positive benefits for all. As SL grows in population the lottery prizes will grow also. Most importantly to this discussion, an Official SL (Linden run) Lottery is the only suggestion I have read here that will consistently bring people to the old "telehub" areas. The key to it being that the lottery tickets are only sold at the infohubs. IF Linden Lab REALLY wanted to help the loss of business suffered by the owners of telehub/infohub land then THIS is the the program. _____________________
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Vivianne Draper
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01-31-2006 12:56
ok this is a crazy idea but it could work. just bear with me. What are the things that bring the peeps? Money? yes! Entertainment? yes! Socialization? yes! The opportunity to do damage to something you hate? yes! All four? YES YES YES!
So here's what you do. Put out camping chairs at a really high rate of return. Like quintuple the amount anyone else is giving out. What do you care? Its not like we have a real economy and if you run out well hell you can make more! Shit make it 100L a minute. That will bring the masses running. At the same time, you damage enable the Infohub. Target practice! So the trick will be to see how long you can actually stay in the chair before someone blows your shit away. This will provide entertainment for those who don't want to shoot or be shot at. Money for those who persevere. Anger management and an outlet for those who hate campers and the chairs they sit in. Those who hate the campers will socialize with others of like mind and the campers can discuss strategy (you know like maybe have a group distract the shooters while another group sits in the chairs for 10 minutes then switch). There ya go.. socialization. Hell add a dj or two and its a party! I know this sounds like a joke and maybe it half is but this could work. This could be the coolest thing EVAR in SL. |
Cirga Control
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01-31-2006 13:31
ok this is a crazy idea but it could work. just bear with me. What are the things that bring the peeps? Money? yes! Entertainment? yes! Socialization? yes! The opportunity to do damage to something you hate? yes! All four? YES YES YES! So here's what you do. Put out camping chairs at a really high rate of return. Like quintuple the amount anyone else is giving out. What do you care? Its not like we have a real economy and if you run out well hell you can make more! Shit make it 100L a minute. That will bring the masses running. At the same time, you damage enable the Infohub. Target practice! So the trick will be to see how long you can actually stay in the chair before someone blows your shit away. This will provide entertainment for those who don't want to shoot or be shot at. Money for those who persevere. Anger management and an outlet for those who hate campers and the chairs they sit in. Those who hate the campers will socialize with others of like mind and the campers can discuss strategy (you know like maybe have a group distract the shooters while another group sits in the chairs for 10 minutes then switch). There ya go.. socialization. Hell add a dj or two and its a party! I know this sounds like a joke and maybe it half is but this could work. This could be the coolest thing EVAR in SL. I actually have to agree.. something like this would be a good way to settle alot of individuals personal needs from SL. Booya Viv! |