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Planet Mars

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04-03-2005 03:06

From: Hiro Pendragon

I am left speechless by how awesome the pictures for the 2.0 engine look.

I'm also stunned by the amount of junk...er... skyboxes in the sky, I guess people will have to find others ways to hide after 2.0

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04-03-2005 04:00

I'm reminded of Trantor, or Coruscant.

Teeny Leviathan

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04-03-2005 04:01

I really had no idea how much stuff we have floating over our land. When I first saw it in the screenshots, I thought it was visual artifacts. I guess most of this stuff is above 300 meters, which is why I'm not ricocheting off of it like a pachinko ball. I wonder if some of that crap is stuff I sent orbital while building?

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04-03-2005 08:22

From: Planet Mars

I'm also stunned by the amount of junk...er... skyboxes in the sky, I guess people will have to find others ways to hide after 2.0

It's true. You know. The 2.0 renderer really makes the building tool limit of 768m and the set home position/offer teleport limit of 255m seem silly.

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Blueman Steele

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sit distance saves

04-03-2005 13:06

Just imagine if you could "sit" on an object outside of your region.

"Oh look.. there's [location] 3000m away.

*right click sit*

SHHOOOOOOOOMP

Tada!

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04-03-2005 13:30

like a 90 mph spanking.

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04-04-2005 04:39

There's some pictures stuck to the bottom of the benches in the welcome area but I'm not sure if they have already been posted.

Buster Peel

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04-04-2005 12:40

Gawd, do we really need all this crap in the sky?

Talk about dogs breakfast. Geez.

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paulie Femto

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view distance increases with altitude?

10-05-2005 09:05

All those 2.0 shots seem to be taken at altitude. Here's a thought. Maybe the 2.0 engine is capable of great view distances at high altitude, where the engine can greatly reduce the level of detail for distant objects. Maybe the view distance decreases while on the ground. Just speculating.

Hey, LL? How bout some more renders?

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Lordfly Digeridoo

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10-05-2005 09:37

The 1.7 map images are part of the 2.0 rendering engine. Feast your eyes and enjoy.

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10-05-2005 14:19

From: Blueman Steele

Just imagine if you could "sit" on an object outside of your region.

"Oh look.. there's [location] 3000m away.

*right click sit*

SHHOOOOOOOOMP

Tada!

Hahahaha

Avatar: Oh hello where'd you come from?
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10-22-2005 08:59

From: Planet Mars

I'm also stunned by the amount of junk...er... skyboxes in the sky, I guess people will have to find others ways to hide after 2.0

I kinda like all the stuff floating in the sky. Would be nice if the outsides were prettier though, more sky builds in this vein would be better.

Torley Linden

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10-22-2005 09:53

From: AJ DaSilva

I kinda like all the stuff floating in the sky. Would be nice if the outsides were prettier though, more sky builds in this vein would be better.

It kind of reminds me of why some people say they don't eat healthier: 'cuz they don't see their insides.

In the same vein, if skyboxes became more visible, at least some would be compelled to beautify and customize. I can't see it being uniform but any self-improvement is welcome.

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AJ DaSilva

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10-22-2005 10:43

From: Torley Torgeson

I can't see it being uniform but any self-improvement is welcome.

How much of SL is uniform? I think that's half the fun of it, never knowing what you'll run into. What I am worried about, though, is huge floating billboards above every shop.

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10-22-2005 11:01

From: AJ DaSilva

How much of SL is uniform? I think that's half the fun of it, never knowing what you'll run into. What I am worried about, though, is huge floating billboards above every shop.

You're right—that statement was atypically un-ME, just a general provision. I am a watermelon trickster. I just hope we'll have many more diverse people in SL who will be choosing to put up other things instead, realizing how so much noise and little signal means few sales!

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07-05-2006 21:32

When is the new rendering system gonna get here?

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07-05-2006 22:08

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

When is the new rendering system gonna get here?

2.0?

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07-05-2006 22:10

was about time this got bumped

ooo AJ posted my old sky-dwelling!

*is flattered*

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07-05-2006 22:21

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

When is the new rendering system gonna get here?

2,0 will be out right after version 1.99, almost there

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07-05-2006 22:26

From: Adam Zaius

2.0?

I sorted the posts by replies and worked my way down past the worst of the sludge.

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Blueman Steele

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Holy Necropost!

07-05-2006 22:30

Nuff said... now when ARE we getting 2.0?

Delta Czukor

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07-05-2006 22:48

From: Zepp Zaftig

2,0 will be out right after version 1.99, almost there

Nah, they'll just go to 1.100 ;P

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07-05-2006 22:51

I posted a thread in Linden Answers and the response was that the super long draw distance thing looked good on paper, but proved impractical to integrate with other pieces of SL, and that we should be on the lookout for other things like FPS improvements. (Since then we've got object-to-object occlusion and local lighting that works pretty fast.)

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07-06-2006 05:38

From: Delta Czukor

Nah, they'll just go to 1.100 ;P

Actually my sources say the planned version numbering system goes up to 1.999.999-1/2.

P2

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07-06-2006 08:42

What Phoenix? You have the sources... and come to this result?

I don't have them but I would guess...
unsigned short USHRT_MAX 65.535

unsigned int UINT_MAX 4.294.967.295
... with one of these limits there is plenty of room left and all the residents should insist on maxing it out to the limits.
Though I would prefer a 1.∞ version as it simply looks a lot better.

Leff.

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Planet Mars Registered User Join date: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 159	04-03-2005 03:06 From: Hiro Pendragon I am left speechless by how awesome the pictures for the 2.0 engine look. I'm also stunned by the amount of junk...er... skyboxes in the sky, I guess people will have to find others ways to hide after 2.0 _____________________ Planet Mars
Seth Kanahoe political fugue artist Join date: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,220	04-03-2005 04:00 I'm reminded of Trantor, or Coruscant.
Teeny Leviathan Never started World War 3 Join date: 20 May 2003 Posts: 2,716	04-03-2005 04:01 I really had no idea how much stuff we have floating over our land. When I first saw it in the screenshots, I thought it was visual artifacts. I guess most of this stuff is above 300 meters, which is why I'm not ricocheting off of it like a pachinko ball. I wonder if some of that crap is stuff I sent orbital while building? _____________________ The Default Avatars were created by Linden Lab They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan.
Shack Dougall self become: Object new Join date: 9 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,028	04-03-2005 08:22 From: Planet Mars I'm also stunned by the amount of junk...er... skyboxes in the sky, I guess people will have to find others ways to hide after 2.0 It's true. You know. The 2.0 renderer really makes the building tool limit of 768m and the set home position/offer teleport limit of 255m seem silly. _____________________ Prim Composer for 3dsMax -- complete offline builder for prims and sculpties in 3ds Max http://liferain.com/downloads/primcomposer/ Hierarchical Prim Archive (HPA) -- HPA is is a fully-documented, platform-independent specification for storing and transferring builds between Second Life-compatible platforms and tools. https://liferain.com/projects/hpa
Blueman Steele Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038	sit distance saves 04-03-2005 13:06 Just imagine if you could "sit" on an object outside of your region. "Oh look.. there's [location] 3000m away. right click sit SHHOOOOOOOOMP Tada!
Zuzi Martinez goth dachshund Join date: 4 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,860	04-03-2005 13:30 like a 90 mph spanking. _____________________ Zuzi Martinez: if Jeska was Canadian would she be from Jeskatchewan? that question keeps me up at nite. Jeska Linden: That is by far the weirdest question I've ever seen.
Eata Kitty Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 387	04-04-2005 04:39 There's some pictures stuck to the bottom of the benches in the welcome area but I'm not sure if they have already been posted.
Buster Peel Spat the dummy. Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,242	04-04-2005 12:40 Gawd, do we really need all this crap in the sky? Talk about dogs breakfast. Geez. _____________________
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	view distance increases with altitude? 10-05-2005 09:05 All those 2.0 shots seem to be taken at altitude. Here's a thought. Maybe the 2.0 engine is capable of great view distances at high altitude, where the engine can greatly reduce the level of detail for distant objects. Maybe the view distance decreases while on the ground. Just speculating. Hey, LL? How bout some more renders? _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Lordfly Digeridoo Prim Orchestrator Join date: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 3,628	10-05-2005 09:37 The 1.7 map images are part of the 2.0 rendering engine. Feast your eyes and enjoy. LF _____________________ ---- http://www.lordfly.com/ http://www.twitter.com/lordfly http://www.plurk.com/lordfly
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	10-05-2005 14:19 From: Blueman Steele Just imagine if you could "sit" on an object outside of your region. "Oh look.. there's [location] 3000m away. right click sit SHHOOOOOOOOMP Tada! Hahahaha Avatar: Oh hello where'd you come from? Me: Oh just from a couple of sims down the road. _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	10-22-2005 08:59 From: Planet Mars I'm also stunned by the amount of junk...er... skyboxes in the sky, I guess people will have to find others ways to hide after 2.0 I kinda like all the stuff floating in the sky. Would be nice if the outsides were prettier though, more sky builds in this vein would be better.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	10-22-2005 09:53 From: AJ DaSilva I kinda like all the stuff floating in the sky. Would be nice if the outsides were prettier though, more sky builds in this vein would be better. It kind of reminds me of why some people say they don't eat healthier: 'cuz they don't see their insides. In the same vein, if skyboxes became more visible, at least some would be compelled to beautify and customize. I can't see it being uniform but any self-improvement is welcome. _____________________
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	10-22-2005 10:43 From: Torley Torgeson I can't see it being uniform but any self-improvement is welcome. How much of SL is uniform? I think that's half the fun of it, never knowing what you'll run into. What I am worried about, though, is huge floating billboards above every shop.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	10-22-2005 11:01 From: AJ DaSilva How much of SL is uniform? I think that's half the fun of it, never knowing what you'll run into. What I am worried about, though, is huge floating billboards above every shop. You're right—that statement was atypically un-ME, just a general provision. I am a watermelon trickster. I just hope we'll have many more diverse people in SL who will be choosing to put up other things instead, realizing how so much noise and little signal means few sales! _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	07-05-2006 21:32 When is the new rendering system gonna get here? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Adam Zaius Deus Join date: 9 Jan 2004 Posts: 1,483	07-05-2006 22:08 From: SuezanneC Baskerville When is the new rendering system gonna get here? 2.0? _____________________ Co-Founder / Lead Developer GigasSecondServer
Fa nyak >(O.o)< Join date: 8 Oct 2004 Posts: 342	07-05-2006 22:10 was about time this got bumped ooo AJ posted my old sky-dwelling! is flattered
Zepp Zaftig Unregistered Abuser Join date: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 470	07-05-2006 22:21 From: SuezanneC Baskerville When is the new rendering system gonna get here? 2,0 will be out right after version 1.99, almost there _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	07-05-2006 22:26 From: Adam Zaius 2.0? I sorted the posts by replies and worked my way down past the worst of the sludge. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Blueman Steele Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038	Holy Necropost! 07-05-2006 22:30 Nuff said... now when ARE we getting 2.0?
Delta Czukor Registered User Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 53	07-05-2006 22:48 From: Zepp Zaftig 2,0 will be out right after version 1.99, almost there Nah, they'll just go to 1.100 ;P _____________________
Huns Valen Don't PM me here. Join date: 3 May 2003 Posts: 2,749	07-05-2006 22:51 I posted a thread in Linden Answers and the response was that the super long draw distance thing looked good on paper, but proved impractical to integrate with other pieces of SL, and that we should be on the lookout for other things like FPS improvements. (Since then we've got object-to-object occlusion and local lighting that works pretty fast.) _____________________ [ huns? \|\| words \|\| 1TBS KREW \|\| VHI Aircraft \|\| Whitepaper on Aircraft Physics ] Make yourself and your objects immune to llPushObject().
Phoenix Psaltery Ninja Wizard Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,599	07-06-2006 05:38 From: Delta Czukor Nah, they'll just go to 1.100 ;P Actually my sources say the planned version numbering system goes up to 1.999.999-1/2. P2 _____________________
Leffard Lassard Registered User Join date: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 142	07-06-2006 08:42 What Phoenix? You have the sources... and come to this result? I don't have them but I would guess... unsigned short USHRT_MAX 65.535 unsigned int UINT_MAX 4.294.967.295 ... with one of these limits there is plenty of room left and all the residents should insist on maxing it out to the limits. Though I would prefer a 1.∞ version as it simply looks a lot better. Leff.

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