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Merlyn Bailly
owner, AVALON GALLERIA
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 576
07-20-2006 18:08
From: Jonas Pierterson
Shes a friend :P

~spanks Merlyn with his steel cane~

lesson one- never spank a Gorean Master


Never bitch at a witch, son -- and I was spanking twerps when you were still in 3-cornered pants.
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Addison White
Just call me Assi!
Join date: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 127
07-20-2006 19:08
Ginny, which we all know, is the woman who own's Dazzle, tonight at her store took down her items that were being copied, two sets of outfits and then made some "special t-shirts" and put them all in a box for 20l! She says, why be ripped off when I can rip myself off :D Gotta love the designers taking back their own action. Who needs fake knock off's for 99l when you can get the original perfect for 20L :D

We have made a scammers sign and placed it in front of ALL of our stores giving links to the diff websites out there. TY for keeping them up to date, and a big ty to all the response we've gotten. Even after all of the nasty IM's from "friends" of the people involved. I hope this all ends, but in all reality, even if this one incident ends, it's still gonna continue. I just can hope that in the near future, LL will have a better solution for probs. like this other then the ban button and an AR.

-Addi
Jonas Pierterson
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Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
07-20-2006 19:14
From: Merlyn Bailly
Never bitch at a witch, son -- and I was spanking twerps when you were still in 3-cornered pants.


Probably. I think dirts a baby compared to you. ;)
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Tre Giles
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Join date: 16 Dec 2005
Posts: 294
07-20-2006 20:03
From: Richie Waves
not sure you can make things no transfer no copy at the same time anyways.. but then again.. I guess scripted objects can be set with weird rights o.O


I know a glitch/bug that will let me make something no perms (and god do I love it).

PM/IM me for it.
mcgeeb Gupte
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Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,152
07-20-2006 20:47
I've seen some strange things lately also. One night someone bought many of my demos and bought two each of all of them. Any idea what the deal is with that??? I guess the only protection against some of this is to keep making news things before someone steals them :(
Merlyn Bailly
owner, AVALON GALLERIA
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 576
07-20-2006 20:48
From: Nyx Divine
I only stopped by JD's place, saw the same freebies you listed, she said she was old and sick and these things confused her so was cluless about what may be in the boxes that she bought in BULK from others. Do with that what you will.

And yes you DID change the names on your blog now....sheesh

And Merlyn weren't you also the person who was screaming about content ripoffs earlier?

A modeling studio and mayhap a skin if memory serves?

/109/ae/119553/1.html

I despise folks who rip others off be it freebies or ripped textures or whatever...but I make damn sure I know what I'm talking about.

Sorry but three strikes and in my book your out

*makes note of name of blogger this time before jumping on some bandwagon*

man I feel stupid


Yes, I changed names because my source had more information. That's called JOURNALISM, dear. Sometimes the story DEVELOPS as the SITUATION DEVELOPS. I'm a reporter -- I reported what I was told -- I'm not a god or Philip or another of the useless Lindens who know everything but can't get off their butts to DO anything.

I wasn't screaming, I was asking if the modeling studio in question was actually an original creation of that person.
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Addison White
Just call me Assi!
Join date: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 127
07-20-2006 20:58
Notice the name, Addison White, as the original poster? That's b/c I POSTED this! That means...who would the informent be? Probably me. And yes, I've already stated in this post that when I had a LONG talk with one of the girls involved, I made the choice to email her back and say, listen....imo, she had nothing to do with it. The WRONG thing she could have done, is kept up the girls name, even after I had sent that. So I give her nothing but Kudos for keeping up and staying current for the people that should see it's sake. Alot of good people in SL has seen this tonight, and I've gotten numerous IM's from designers, taking a peek to make sure their items are not out. So for once, one of these posts worked. If for no other reason then to inform. Texture theft is going to keep happening, but all we can do is try to stop it one person at a time.

-Addi
Nyx Divine
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Join date: 11 Dec 2004
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07-20-2006 21:38
From: Merlyn Bailly
Yes, I changed names because my source had more information. That's called JOURNALISM, dear. Sometimes the story DEVELOPS as the SITUATION DEVELOPS. I'm a reporter -- I reported what I was told -- I'm not a god or Philip or another of the useless Lindens who know everything but can't get off their butts to DO anything.

I wasn't screaming, I was asking if the modeling studio in question was actually an original creation of that person.



Maybe so, but you seem like an axe grinder to me. You have lost all credibilty w/ me as well.........enjoy your witch hunt.

Sad thing is you may actually have a valid point, but after crying wolf so many times folks will cease to listen. I know I have.

First you bitch about designers that have cigs in their adds, then you blame two totally innocent people for making things 'BETTER THAN THEIR NORM' and thus they MUST be content stealers.

And now this...........all I say is that your reputation preceeds you dear.

Take care in attempting to rid the world of eveil, you may be the evil that needs ridding :)
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Astrid Ophelia
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07-20-2006 23:06
From: Ashlin Leandros
....They have taken my box and put their ripped copies of these outfits in them and are reselling them. I was confronted by a top designer from SL, along with a couple others last night and they gave me a chance to explain myself ( thank god) but it wasnt until today that my name was finally cleared, due to this scam....


That's all I need to hear; just took all the gift boxes out of my shops.

Glad you were able to clear your name Ashlin. That just sux you had to go thru it all because of some asshat. :mad:
Janie Marlowe
Mischief Maker
Join date: 5 Apr 2005
Posts: 630
07-20-2006 23:39
From: lana Birdbrain
BTW... totally offtopic I know. But seeing some of the Mischief boxes at that "yard sale" made me want to go look at more at the real Mischief store and look at their real stuff and wow... as a designer myself I am totally jealous! Adorable stuff! Made me want to go back into paintshop and practice my skills. LOL

EDIT: Also bought an outfit and dam I look hot :p


That statement right there is why yard sales are intrinsically good for both consumer's and designer's. There are a lot of reputable yard sales that not only make themselves a decent sl income but bring in advertising for those of us who put transfer rights on our items. Why oh why does some dirty bastage have to go and rip textures off and ruin everyone's fun?
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Ashlin Leandros
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Join date: 22 Aug 2005
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07-21-2006 03:27
"Why oh why does some dirty bastage have to go and rip textures off and ruin everyone's fun?"

Why because they lack creativity and morals, thats why!

Im so sick of all this I could just VOMIT! Even though I have been cleared and proven a victim in this, I am still catching hell.

Example...tonight I realized the place I sell the most of my shoes from, a rented place, had deleted all my shoes there. No questions asked , just taken down all because some other vendor there "heard" about all this. I was so hurt, this guy is my friend..Im still hurt..although I have been invited to re-set up all my stuff , which I am.

This has been the biggest CROCK OF SH*T and all because of 2 people, A) the person selling the items at her yard sale and B) the person who sold her the items to begin with.

Grow up people *directed to the 2 selling these items* , expand your minds and BE CREATIVE. SL gives us EVERY option to do so, so take advantage of it for GODS SAKE!
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Frurry Fluno
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07-21-2006 03:34
i got stung by this very sale, i knew i should have been suspicous in that they had so many of the same outfits, i got stung on fakes of dazzles katterina (now got from the main store 20l set) and mischief's blanca lace outfit :(
Ashlin Leandros
Rawr!
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07-21-2006 03:37
I'm so sorry to hear that Frurry
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vanessa Richard
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Join date: 5 Oct 2005
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This Is Total Bs!
07-21-2006 03:48
Alright This Is Way Out Of Control...... First Of All, No One Has Come To Me And Asked Me Anything About This, I Was There Last Night When All This Was Going On. I Was There Trying To Help Both Sides. I Come Back On This Morning, And Now, How Funny, Now Im A Scammer Too? I Am So Pissed About This. I Cannot Believe This. I Have Never Ever Tried To Scam Anyone. I Just Am Not Like That, Or Has The Thought Ever Crossed My Mind.
Before You Go Talking Shit Behind My Back About Something You Have Not Even Dicussed With Me Or Anything Is Just Rediculous. I Have Done Nothing Wrong, I Am Not Scamming Anyone, Ihave Not Messed With Anything I Have Bought. I Paid For The Stuff I Have And Had No Idea That Some Of The Things I Had Out Were Marked That Way. None! I Have Always Been The One To Help Ppl Never To Hurt Them.you Dont Know Me, You Dont Even Know My Story, Yet You Go And Put My Name As Involved And Making Assumptions That I Am Helping Someone Buy These And Sell Them. That Is Just Rediculous. All That You Say About Me Is Lies. Come Get The Truth First Before You Go Posting Shit Behind My Back. I Have Nothing To Hide. I Have Not Done Anything Wrong. And Last Night I Was Trying To Help, I Spent Hours Trying To Help Work This Out, For My Friend, And For You Guys. And This Is What I Get Back. Thanks. If You Knew Me, You Wouldnt Even Question, But You Dont And No One Has Asked Me Anything About Anything. Yet You Seem To Have Just Everything Figured Out. I Am Sorry That This Happened, I Understand Your Upset And Everything. But Do Not Go Putting My Name In This, When You Know Nothing. Send Ppl Over To Spy On Us. I Am Totally Innocent. And Im Gettting All This Shit Talked About Me Thats Not True. Thats What I Get For Trying To Help.


So Here I Am, In Your Forum Telling Everyone That Comes And Reads This Stuff. I Am Innocent. I Have Done Nothing Wrong. And You Are Wrong For Talking Shit. Putting My Name Out There With This. So Quit Calling Ppl Names And Making Shit Up. Thats Messed Up. Why Was I Even Trying To Help, Because Thats The Kind Of Person I Am And You Dont Know Me. Take My Name Out Of This.
Jezebella Desmoulins
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07-21-2006 04:03
I'm oddly amused that you capitalize every single word in your post, yet you missed putting an upper case letter where it belongs in your own first name.
CJ Carnot
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07-21-2006 04:04
:eek:
vanessa Richard
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Join date: 5 Oct 2005
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Nothing better to do?
07-21-2006 08:58
Do you have nothing better to do than to sit there and talk shit, and correct my typing? Did you even get what I was saying? This is rediculous. If you have something to say about the situation, fine, but to make fun of my capital letter misplacement? I have to say, get a life...... lets see what else can you do to make ppl feel bad? Did it make you feel better saying that? You got nothing else out of what I wrote? LOL whatever, Im not gonna spend anymore of my time on you.

Make sure you proof read this one too k. Rediculous!
Addison White
Just call me Assi!
Join date: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 127
07-21-2006 09:59
Well, first off Vanessa, yes people did come and talk to you the nite this all started. I do believe Ashlin herself has talked to you...and I do believe you actually had several of YOUR friends come and talk to us to try and "work this out" only to have me and 3 other people orbited from my store. The solution for the time being was simple. The fake items and Ashlin's boxes came down..and the rest would be dealt with later. They WERE taken down, only to be put back up an hour later. You can scream victim all you want in this, but I do recall a certain conversation you had with the MAIN person involved calling us all names, and how stupid we were, and NONE of this was your's or her's fault. I also recieved a LENGTHY IM from said person this AM explaining how her and I never even talked, she's a grandmother, wouldn't hurt anyone, she's a victim, etc. even though I have a saved copy from OUR actual conversation stating "I can sell whatever I want" and "If I get banned, any alt will fix that." That is actual proof. I don't need to sit here and make things up. This is from witness's and actual people involved. So coming in on the tail end of this, screaming victim and how your innocent is a little late and a dollar short. B/c plenty of people last nite and today heard the truth. We can only wait now to see what the future outcome of all of these, not just the parties involved in this sitiuation, will handle the texture theft resellers out there to come.

-Addi
Lupus Delacroix
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07-21-2006 10:04
From: vanessa Richard
Do you have nothing better to do than to sit there and talk shit, and correct my typing? Did you even get what I was saying? This is rediculous. If you have something to say about the situation, fine, but to make fun of my capital letter misplacement? I have to say, get a life...... lets see what else can you do to make ppl feel bad? Did it make you feel better saying that? You got nothing else out of what I wrote? LOL whatever, Im not gonna spend anymore of my time on you.

Make sure you proof read this one too k. Rediculous!


She didn't pick the nicest way of doing things, but yeah capitalizing every word pretty much made me skip over your post as it makes it very hard to read.
joane Diller
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Join date: 23 Mar 2005
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hi want ppl to read tis all it is true..
07-21-2006 12:24
well .i hear im a scammer ans i call ppl stupid and im not smart and really rude things to say about me old sick? well saying im old ..im not acent.....yes im a grandmother is that to be laughed at? i dont call ppl stup i dont hurt ppl and all this is way out off hand....i dont read forumsbecause i have a rl as i was comented on my quote....rl we are rl ppl we all have a rl ..i never scammed or hurt anyone in rl or sl..i pays alot off money a month for my island ..and i spend 95% of the time in my island........ all my renters i try to help if needed..i have to hire help......you know i have been rippd off so many times... homes made and all i did was trust..well i was hurt so many times i dont post because im not into gossip..i took so many loses...wellllli talked to micheif deigns...she a nice person,... she told me to enjoy sl and ..not to listen to all and.. and said for me not to be stressed in sl...... well it was wonderfull to her that someone in here other then my many friends... that smiled at me and .. you know? that you dont know me? and im being called all things to bann me and all? why are you hurting me?i dont egnore i dont put stuff out because im rude.....i needed to find out the truth,,,, because if you think i really didnt know ........and im not stupid....just i dont cheep ppl .....i was taking in again .as in money as intrusting ppl.. but .....ifyou have a real life?> do you seeep well knowing that .you condemed a person that you really dont know...i am willing to talk live on skype or yahoo......if my typing as you made fun off.....is not to your standards.....i try my hardest as most off us do....i came in here knowing we are all adults not kids and wow this is real sad..........i hope you read between the lines and know .all i wrote and said are all true.....my yard sale was not ment to hurt no one...it went out off control as in all off you.......i cant answer all ppl at once.. so i doing it this way.. i wont respond no more.all i said in god ......is the truth..plz plz leave me alone.. and let me .. just live a stressless way insl........i am not mean or do i hurt...i do have a heart i do have feeling..../
vanessa Richard
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What the hell are you talking about
07-21-2006 12:25
First of all, NO ONE ASKED OR ACCUSED ME of this shit that night,it was all about my firend. SO no, no one had talked to ME about it. Yes ashlin talked to me, but nothing was said to me that I was involved! And I did take the things down even tho I didnt do anything to them to be copied, but just to be cool and try to help you guys out, and NO they werent put back out only the stuff that didnt have your name on it. SO get your facts straight! Also, what convo that i had with the "main" person? and if i did say anything like that it was only after all of this bs was said about me. I never said i can sell whatever i want blah blah, let me see where i said that!post it on here if you have it i dont care, cause it was never said from me. Wheres the proof? prove it! I have nothing to hide, cause i did nothing wrong! If i did something wrong prove it!
and stop talking shit telling lies about me!
Candace Sullivan
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Join date: 7 Dec 2005
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It Amazes me
07-21-2006 12:45
I think the most rational post from any designer in this thread has been from Janie. A few other peopel deserve credit as well but Merlyn Bailly, you call what you do journalism? I have never read a newspaper or watched the news where the person changes the story and names every few minutes! JOURNALISM means to investigate, get the FACTS straight, then report them. Not, oh after a conversation with one of the people in question I changed my mind. Those conversations should have been done LONG before you posted people's names. I know BC and its obvious you do not. BC does not know JD or anyone else! Also dedicates time and even the profile shows that BC is very into helping newbs. So once again, you better run to your BS website and fix that too. Ever occur to you to talk to BC? Not one of you have. Ever occur to you that BC is very into newbie help as all his PICKS show. maybe someone used one of BC's newbie clothes that would have full perms and change it? I have not heard ANY evidence at all on ANY of the people who's names you have mentioned here except the main one. BC has a very good rep and just look at his profile, all rates given and gave, all picks...You have NO RIGHT doing this to people without so much as a conversation to them or any proof other then, AW told you so. AW has also not done her homework as she should before naming people.

JD looking 19-22? LOL whos profile were you looking at, thats not the first life picuture i saw at all!

SJ I also fail to see where that AV scammed or stole. I looked at this yard sale, he is selling freebies, thats at best..not nice and rips peopel off, but where does this av's name come into being involved in anything else? Where is that proof. where is his conversation? Let me guess, never happened right?

CS i spoke to her, I don't think she was involved myself. She also didn't know BC & didn't think JD did either. She admitted JD was her rl and that she had given her some things from her own store to sell, nothing being free or stolen. She invited me into her store to look around at all the stuff she has. I did that later when she was offline and there is a lot of clothes there but not one that I checked didn't have a creator name that was valid. Seeing she admitted these facts openly, I believed her. I have also seen NO PROOF otherwise. She was very upset with Merlyn's website, and was angry even with her changes, I also don't see why the RL stuff is added in Merlyn Bailly's website. Was that to give people the impression that even though now she is being said to not be involved, its her rl so assume she is anyway?

Now VR Where does she fit in, what real journalist writes, VR may or may not have involvement? Either she does or doesn't and before you decide to say these things you need to find out, that IS YOUR job before you attack soemone then change it to , may be she did or maybe she didn't. You said your not God in a post, then please stop acting as him, and reporting souly on what you gather or assuem or hear. SHOW ME THE PROOF.

You also said in one of your posts Merlyn that " As one person peripherally involved (as the rel of the freebie seller/ripoff scammer) admitted to passing things on to the person, I gather the other two have something to do with how she's getting the items to sell."

Who are you to GATHER anything but FACTS! We don't care what you assume is true, and you have no business reporting anything you "gather" unless its evidence and facts, none of which you have doen to any of the peopel I have mentioned other than JD which is obvious she is the seller of stolen or copied stuff. I was banned myself from JD but everyone else was more then reasonable.

I know I personally will not be reading your website and happy to see others feel the same. If you had a real jourlism job, you would have been sued and fired by now for slander and a few other things with no proof to help you out.

I am very against stealing anything here on this game, but I am also against slander.

JD should and will be held responsible for her actions, and anyone else that is helping her steal and copy items. I know BC is NOT one of them, BC knows many ppl very well who wll all rush to BC's defense as they know BC HELPS newbies all the time.
I agree Merlyn is on a with hunt and instead of passing the buck when shes written wrong over and over, take responsibility herself. Not say shes a journalist, shes anything but as far as i have seen. This is all getting overwelming and causing inncoent people pain.
Lets find a way to stop the person we can prove is in the wrong, without punishing others because one person 'gathers" they are involved. I am willin to bet anything I have BC is in no way at all involved in this and i demand proof or the removal of what is "gathered: by another av. Mind you BC is a newb helper and anything would be on full perms so could be changed, or does that excuse only apply to ashlin?
Madison Brennen
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Some Of you Amaze me!
07-21-2006 12:53
I think the most rational post from any designer in this thread has been from Janie. A few other peopel deserve credit as well but Merlyn Bailly, you call what you do journalism? I have never read a newspaper or watched the news where the person changes the story and names every few minutes! JOURNALISM means to investigate, get the FACTS straight, then report them. Not, oh after a conversation with one of the people in question I changed my mind. Those conversations should have been done LONG before you posted people's names. I know BC and its obvious you do not. BC does not know JD or anyone else! Also dedicates time and even the profile shows that BC is very into helping newbs. So once again, you better run to your BS website and fix that too. Ever occur to you to talk to BC? Not one of you have. Ever occur to you that BC is very into newbie help as all his PICKS show. maybe someone used one of BC's newbie clothes that would have full perms and change it? I have not heard ANY evidence at all on ANY of the people who's names you have mentioned here except the main one. BC has a very good rep and just look at his profile, all rates given and gave, all picks...You have NO RIGHT doing this to people without so much as a conversation to them or any proof other then, AW told you so. AW has also not done her homework as she should before naming people.

JD looking 19-22? LOL whos profile were you looking at, thats not the first life picuture i saw at all!

SJ I also fail to see where that AV scammed or stole. I looked at this yard sale, he is selling freebies, thats at best..not nice and rips peopel off, but where does this av's name come into being involved in anything else? Where is that proof. where is his conversation? Let me guess, never happened right?

CS i spoke to her, I don't think she was involved myself. She also didn't know BC & didn't think JD did either. She admitted JD was her rl and that she had given her some things from her own store to sell, nothing being free or stolen. She invited me into her store to look around at all the stuff she has. I did that later when she was offline and there is a lot of clothes & furniture but every one I did check was valid. Seeing she admitted these facts openly, I believed her. I have also seen NO PROOF otherwise. She was very upset with Merlyn's website, and was angry even with her changes, I also don't see why the RL stuff is added in Merlyn Bailly's website. Was that to give people the impression that even though now she is being said to not be involved, its her rl so assume she is anyway?

Now VR Where does she fit in, what real journalist writes, VR may or may not have involvement? Either she does or doesn't and before you decide to say these things you need to find out, that IS YOUR job before you blast someone then change it to , may be she did or maybe she didn't. You said your not God in a post, then please stop acting as him, and reporting souly on what you gather or assume or hear. SHOW US THE PROOF.

You also said in one of your posts Merlyn that " As one person peripherally involved (as the rel of the freebie seller/ripoff scammer) admitted to passing things on to the person, I gather the other two have something to do with how she's getting the items to sell."

Who are you to GATHER anything but FACTS! We don't care what you assume is true, and you have no business reporting anything you "gather" unless its evidence and facts, none of which you have done to any of the people I have mentioned other than JD which is obvious she is the seller of stolen or copied stuff. I was banned myself from JD but everyone else was more then reasonable.

I know I personally will not be reading your website and happy to see others feel the same. If you had a real jourlism job, you would have been sued and fired by now for slander and a few other things with no proof to help you out.

I am very against stealing anything here on this game, but I am also against slander.

JD should and will be held responsible for her actions, and anyone else that is helping her steal and copy items. I know BC is NOT one of them, BC knows many ppl very well who wll all rush to BC's defense as they know BC HELPS newbies all the time.
I agree Merlyn is on a with hunt and instead of passing the buck when shes written wrong over and over, take responsibility herself. Not say shes a journalist, shes anything but as far as i have seen. This is all getting overwelming and causing inncoent people pain.
Lets find a way to stop the person we can prove is in the wrong, without punishing others because one person 'gathers" they are involved. I am willin to bet anything I have BC is in no way at all involved in this and i demand proof or the removal of what is "gathered: by another av. Mind you BC is a newb helper and anything would be on full perms so could be changed, or does that only apply to ashlin? Is Ashlin the only victim here because AW says so or did merlyn just gather that one too!
Frurry Fluno
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07-21-2006 12:59
too late madison, we already know you are an alt of candace, a bit slow on deleting that last post
Madison Brennen
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07-21-2006 13:09
excuse me? again another assumption, Candace was to write it and i said no i will post it. I am no alt you may see me on game ty! As I wanted to STRESS BC
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