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Aliasi Stonebender
Return of Catbread
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,858
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03-17-2006 13:12
Believe me, I planned on 15 second warning teleport home for you  Cool. If I induce some momentary lag in the script scheduler, that ought to be PLENTY of time to tag up the place.  Still nothing in there saying its required I give you access above my land..so you still haven't met the burden of proof, only strengthened what I said: Push is considered assault. Which bit of "you can't stop people from flying by" did you not understand? "Can't", "stop", or "flying"? _____________________
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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03-17-2006 13:28
The main problem with security scripts are that most I've seen are written in a very lazy fashion.
Which is funny in a way because push object has the potential to be far less invasive than a tport home, but due to laziness it's the worst offender. Consider: it's not hard to see if someone is with x radius - although most just set to an arbitary max. it's not hard to see if someone is on your land - some don't even check this. it's not hard to define a rectangular bounding box in free space (say the dimensions of your workspace/whateverpad). it's not hard to determine the distance someone is from an object, or thier position in free space. What a lot of the scripts I see do is 'if you are in the range of my scanner - you get tported home - or pushed due north with the maximum force I can plug into this function' What *IS* possible is to push an av in the exact opposite direction with pretty much the amount of force needed to slow them, stop them, or gently push them back to a 'perimeter' around your 'whatever box' So if they flew over it close, they would probably be raised a few meters gently to pass over it... if they flew at it they would slow to a stop. In conjuction with some sort of message this would be more desirable and polite than a tport home or a forcefull eject. why isn't it done? Not too hard - just noone wants to spend the time on the finesse. Why don't I do it? I got bigger fish to fry and I don't really care if folks drop in on me - if they are a PITA I just eject them by hand or fuck with them on a much grander scale than they can with me. _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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03-17-2006 13:35
Which bit of "you can't stop people from flying by" did you not understand? "Can't", "stop", or "flying"? __________________ What part of this didn't you understand: feel free to show me they make me allow free access..on 'paper' and in a majority of abuse reports related to security scripts. You're the one saying I -have- to allow you. the burden of proof is on you. Tag all you want if I do this.. anything abuse reportable will be reported |
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
Join date: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,601
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03-17-2006 13:35
People who want privacy can just go get a private island.
All sarcasm aside, lack of privacy and lack of land controls on the mainland are probably deliberate to encourage people to tier up and get their own island. Unfortunately. _____________________
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Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,415
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03-17-2006 13:48
I don't want the world to see my digi-peen without my intent. I suppose it goes along with the idea that though it is an alternate reality, where anything is possible... it is as possible that some of us may want privacy as much as some of us may not. One person's opinion does not invalidate that of another... one person's lack of need or want of a feature doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated by others. Just my L$0.02  Suppose you are right, I have been on the beach along the Med and have shown all. There were quite of few other people there like me. Why are you embaresed about showing the below in public.  |
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Harris Hare
Second Life Resident
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 301
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03-17-2006 14:14
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James Linden
Linden Lab Developer
Join date: 20 Nov 2002
Posts: 115
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03-17-2006 15:15
I'm one of the developers on Second Life.
Yes, Second Life has problems with privacy and camera control. However, some of the problems reported here are due to a feature added to 1.9 that didn't make the release notes. Normally your camera cannot move further than approximately 40 meters from your avatar. However, your camera can move up to 100 meters from your avatar if: * You are a Linden employee (has always been that way) * You are an estate owner/island owner AND you are on your estate (new to 1.9) * You are an estate manager AND you are on an estate you manage (new to 1.9) This was added by Phoenix Linden to help estate owners/managers maintain their estates, primarily because they need to see the results of uploaded terrain files and other massive terrain changes. Does that increase the ability of an estate owner to spy on you? A little bit. But frankly, on an estate you're basically at the mercy of the land owner -- they can kick you, ban you, return your objects, etc. Take a look in World > Region/Estate... for examples of things they can do. Our overall direction is to move more power to estate owners, so that they can better manage their land. This helps Second Life to grow, because there is only so much land that Linden Lab can manage. We're still a small company, and Second Life is growing much faster than we can hire people. James |
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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03-18-2006 06:55
... What *IS* possible is to push an av in the exact opposite direction with pretty much the amount of force needed to slow them, stop them, or gently push them back to a 'perimeter' around your 'whatever box' So if they flew over it close, they would probably be raised a few meters gently to pass over it... if they flew at it they would slow to a stop. In conjuction with some sort of message this would be more desirable and polite than a tport home or a forcefull eject..... _____________________
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Sera Cela
A little bit of crazy
Join date: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 197
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03-18-2006 13:46
I think Jillian Callahan solved this problem in the same way. Simple yet brilliant. It's still a push script, and can be AR'ed. |
