the end of privacy

I was informed of this so-called feature earlier on today, but I wasn't able to use it - I was limited to the same distance as before. Maybe it's a client issue? Can anyone here on a Mac use it?

Rather than attacking my construction, perhaps you should drop by and visit it, so you can actually see that, unlike many clubs in SL,

a) It is actually a pleasant design, and thoughtfully laid out, with consideration given to texture sizes both inside and outside..

b) There are no 'super laggy' scripts and items that ruin the whole region's experience.

c) There are no camping chairs or other lame ways of artificially making something look popular.

So, go have a look, then criticise if you want... but expect me to do the same in return.

Lewis

I have nothign agaisnt disco.

I've been there, even bought a lava lamp long ago..

I was comparing what you were saying to things you loved.

You want sex out of sl..what if we replace the word sex with disco?

You call security scripts greifing tools..I called disco greifing.


I don't use a security script but I can see why people made skyboxes.. for privacy because of people always having to peep in. Then they need security scripts because the estate tools do nothing for them..

Don't blame the symptoms..those who do like pixel humping deserve privacy, thats all I originally had to say. Some people are shy about their avatar, and second life is different to everyone.

As for the visit, come on by. Dark Harlequin Productions. I'd welcome an opinion on the store

Thursday the 16th of March (today) at 2 pm and 7 pm (sl time) we ar eholding dom/sub group greet and meets, and our teleports up will be unlocked so anyone can get to our skybox. Feel free to come by in between events if you feel uncomfortable around the lifestyle (though the last one will have a dj for better music).

It's probably been rebuilt several times since you last visited. Anyway, I will drop by and check out the store, you never know what little gems you might find.

Lewis

Sure will

lol crank that draw distance up to 512 and you can zoom in up to the max draw distance

Yup, Disco inferno is a nice build, but I,m fond of my no secirity script, ball stuffed sky palace.
Lets live and let live Lewis, noones forcing you to pixel hump them.

Lewis ... actually i wasn't talking about -you- but about LL ... even if they will never admit it porn is prolly the first money maker in SL and what brings money to residents brings money to LL ... so all I say is you can rant and whine all you want I doubt you will ever see a no sex SL.

oh and for the record yes I do "pixel humping" as you call it but it is far from being my main activity in SL ... if you want I can send you some of my builts or even offer you one of the shirts I designed ... even if I'm not fully sure a goth shirt would suit on a disco look

Goth disco?

theres something that should be banned

does sound like discrimination to me

This is the first thing I checked when the Preview grid went up for the first time.

If you own the estate you can cam to anywhere on the estate, for all other agents on the estate the max camming distance is still the same. If your not on an estate nobody gets it.

Basically it lets estate owners police their sims better.

EDIT: Forgot to add that you can't use the new camera control functions to move the camera beyond what your normal range would be. If the camera controls tell the camera to move beyond your max range it will just not move the camera.

I can see a real problem has been created! More cheese! I call upon my firms logistics to start buying cheese and in quanty!





This will only last a short time, We need to send more Cheese!

Ah, that might explain it - I was talking to the estate owner at the time, who could see all across the island, and I couldn't manage it.

well, is it really discrimination when it makes your eyes bleed?

Just think of John travolta in a silk shirt and wearing spiked boots dancing to type o negatives version of stayin' alive..

if you can do that wihout horrid pain I envy you

PLEASE STOP TRYING TO LEGISLATE TASTE!

Thank you.

-Flip

I was on the 1.9 preview right when it came up and a Linden explained it to me, but for the life of me I can't remember his name T_T It's whoever made the buggy that's in our inventory folders now. (i'd check but i'm busy )

I'd rather hear This Corrosion for the millionth time than It's Raining Men for the billionth.

Thanks, Sera. Good to know someone else has seen this happen.

So it is the end of privacy, but just for people visiting private islands!

Thanks to all the participants of this thread, regardless of what you were discussing

I dont think anything, anyplace is really private, no matter how hard we try. I suppose SL could restrict residents to their homes. The landless would be restricted to welcome centers. Functions like camera, would be restricted to their "homes". The only way to leave your land would to be invited buy the owner of the land to visit but it would have to be renewed every hour! If not they would be "sent home". Also it would be impossible to look outside of your land or to visit anothers land by travel other than TP. The land owner would have total control. The visiters only recourse wold be to go home.

Is the above enough control for you the insecure? You know who you are!

Nothing is really private in RL either, but there is a reasonable expectation that very few people will actually peek into your window, especially if it is behind walls.

Let's say someone has a skybox/platform/etc that they want to be undisturbed on, a security system preventing physical access and placing the area out of the accepted camera range offers privacy from all but the most determined. With this new extended camera range, the worry was that another reasonable expectation of privacy was gone. I don't think it makes anyone insecure to worry about that.

Also, what you do in the privacy of your space shouldn't matter to whether you deserve it.

Well it's only the person who owns the private island that can do the omnicient camming. So it's not really a loss of privacy, it's just another tool to let users manage their land. You can't expect to have privacy when your on land you don't own.

Come to Parrot Island and I promise I still won't watch you do whatever it is you people do over by the waterfall!

Even now, the security script users had their devices set to interfere with others residents to avoid the camera shots, even if it extended beyond the borders of their land. They feel that their privacy is the only important thing even if it means depriving other residents the right to use their own land! Hmmm they would think, that resident has been still for over 30 seconds, omg it is peeping in my land! Adjust the security script to push it! Well he could be IMing someone too. Cant move and IM but they don’t think about that.



I propose that special "privacy" Sims be made available where residents can do the nasty or whatever makes them happy with no possibility that they can have their privacy infringed. Including having their location be made available to their "friends". With the exception of a few island Sims, most of SL is as UGLY as any other spot in SL, thus it does not matter if you have to go to a special sim for privacy.



Also I propose that all security scripts that use force be made against the rules and punishable under the TOS. If this option is available, it would be done using an option made available by Linden Labs and only be effective on their own land and only to a certain height above ground level. Also all "banned" land will have warning bars that extend to the prohibited height. This allows honest residents to avoid trespassing.



What do you think? SL has become like the "wild west". Residents are taking the "law" into there own hands and this needs to STOP! We need a new Sheriff in town to look after everyone’s interests!

And Ranma, I propose that special 'flying' sims be made that don't allow security scripts. Lets let you flyers wanting to take away peoples privacy move if its that hard on you to respect anothers right!

And no..I didn't want your property..way too high priced.



They are, scripts using push, be it a gun or security script are abuse reportable. Teleport home and ejects are -not.-

Put ban lines up to any height we want instead of just 40m and you have a deal. That allows honest citizens to have their full privacy.

Might be interesting if cameras could not penetrate prims not owned by the camera's agent. Walls are there to be walls, afterall.

This would allow for builders to build, and pixel-lovers to have their privacy. Might be beneficial to include the "modify my junk" feature to allow camera penetration as well.