Town Hall Embarassment

Where's the chat transcript? I missed most of the Town Hall last night.

I don't think this was entirely deliberate - there were several banners at the meeting, saying things like "give us back our umlauts" ... I hadn't even heard about this issue, and asked my german friend if she knew what the problem with umlauts was - it was new to her too, but a second later, she accidentally crashed her sim while trying to answer my question.... and I'm guessing that happened more than once at the meeting.

On the other hand, at one point somebody rezzed a self-replicating grief-object on the stage, in a very obvious griefing attempt - and that was quashed in *seconds* (amidst much "hope you like corn!" heckling to the wannabe griefer). Of course, none of this kind of thing shows up in the transcription.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, maybe it's not wise to cast judgement on the running of a meeting unless you were actually *at* the meeting. As an eye witness, I think the admin was OK for such a large, laggy gathering... not great... but nowhere near as bad as it could've been!

I just fell in love with Alondria LeFay (oooh man she's got a set of greps like no other!). I will stalk her until Havok2008 goes live. Huns Valen and the other kazenojin minions can try to protect her with their assortment of gadgets, but I can outwit (and out muscle) them!

Bos

It happened 3 times before I gave up trying to get back in, and listened in to the meeting instead via a relay - which only relayed Jeska and Phil's words, nothing else so it wasn't an entirely satusfactory relay either. Hopefully this will be fixed in due course. The 'umlaut mafia' were told several times NOT to use them in text but they kept doing so and eventually crashed the sim. So, I would say it was deliberate.



I was there from about 10.00pm (before the meeting started) for about an hour before giving up (my fps was below 2 at that time anyway) and going elsewhere. The problem presumably is down to processing power of the sims that the meeting was hosted on - perhaps it's time to upgrade those to a higher than normal processing power, due to the excess load that is put upon them when these meetings are held?

Lewis

Hehe, I hope your not planning on using physics to get to me, since it will probably fail.

On the plus side, LL did demonstrate their blindingly fast development speed by giving as a bloody standard *nix timestamp after 3 years!

It's getting pretty obvious the Town Hall meetings are just press conferences to throw a bone to the public so they forget how things aren't progressing.

The real issues get hashed over between the large landowners and LL. Just look at how they said in the polls "More landowner tools are coming", but it was all "Estate tools" they added, small landowners haven't gotten anything new since version 1.0.

We're fooling ourselves thinking that anyone with less than a full sim has any value to LL.

*shrugs* The town hall meeting pretty much went as I expected.

Which is.. nothing much was answered, due to a bad combination of ill-preparedness on the part of staff and the people who decided to 'grief' during the meeting so that time was virtually wasted on dealing with them and the crashes they were causing.

It would almost be better if they had the repeators become relays if they wanted live questions. That way, no one would feel the need to go to the town hall meeting and crash the sim repeatedly. Oh, wait... that's what forums are for!

Overall the problem with the town hall meeting was that via the repeator, Phil seemed to have no clue what was going on in the world. He was very ill-prepped to deal with the pre-asked questions, which he could have gotten someone else to at least write up the answers for him, if he couldn't do it himself. He kept forgetting to stick to the pre-asked questions first (I'll forgive him this one.. having the sim crash repeatedly probably rattled him), and doing a lot of wandering off topic.

Lets face it, with all the recent media attention, he doesn't have time for the game. We'd all love it if he did have the time, but someone has to be the press boy and it's him.

Office Love! When is Love a Linden day ??? I can't wait.

Interesting point - maybe he forgot the difference between the media and residents?
Residents ask difficult questions and tend to know what they are on about - slightly different from supplying 'quotable' soundbites (like 'Bring on the competition') to media types who don't know better?

If you're talking about client fps rather than sim fps (which seems likely), then no, boosting the processing power of the sims wouldn't help.

A bit more consideration from some of the blingtards in the crowd might've helped though... I spotted at least one girl whose power-armour and hair combo would easily consume the prim budget of a small nation...

This part really bothered me. Town Hall meetings are crowded and crashy enough.

I was with the roughly 100 people that showed up an hour early for the meeting but what with the umlaut group crashing the sims every minute or so making a quarter of the audience vanish repeatedly, it just wasn't worth it.

What's the point of such a disorganised meeting? The same information could be got across with an announcement. If they deign to answer the submitted questions, they have to do that in written form anyway.

They should have gone through those that answered the call for questions on the forum, invited a representative sample of those people to a *private* location and broadcast the whole thing on repeaters to other public locations for those who just "show up." They could use MC's to pipe further questions from *those* audiences to Philip at the private, quieter, more sensible meeting.

You really didn't miss anything. Just a bunch of canned, vague non-answers.

Lame.

agreed, though I'm not sure I'd call answering 7 or 8 softball questions "a bunch".

To give the appearance of caring and being involved without having to actually do anything? Just a guess.

It's a trick that is becomming increasingly useful these days. You might have heard of someone else who learned the value of pretending to be addled in public speaking: George W. Bush. It is hard to not see or hear Bush speak and think "could this guy really be this stupid?"; I recently found that it is almost assuredly an act and a well honed one. Perhaps the most compelling evidence is that he lost a senatorial race in Texas in 1978 because he struck the populace as too intelligent. His opponent (a Texan) ran an advertisement:Bush was also quoted in that election as saying "Today is the first time I've been on a real farm". This is quite a difference from the country-bumpkin persona that Bush now affects. As Rove is reported to have said in 2002: But this wasn't intended to be about Bush really, I got carried away in trying to explain why pretending that you don't know anything about the thing you lead is useful: because you don't have to answer hard questions. And it was Reagan who was thought to be the actor...

No, damnit, this isn't about parties - of which I care not - it is about political rheotoric. And as King Philip has called himself that, political rhetoric does seem applicable.

Now folks, you can't be serious...

I learned a very important, very concrete fact from yesterday's town hall! :

If I ever want to get a trip out to Cali and a chance to see LL's internal operations, I had better quit being optimistic, and start bitching up a storm.

...or just rent the Wizard of Oz

I got the idea that maybe he has been criticized for his office organization and - whatever you call it - the business plan, the way they run the office, make decisions, the hierarchy, or lack of all of the above, etc. - and by someone other than us.

Cause he said, out of nowhere kind of, something about having to have some of the doubters/disbelievers/sceptics or something come visit the office.

I'm just not sure what that was all about, or the "office love" part, either, but it sounded a bit defensive, and seemed to come out of nowhere (correct me if my memory is wrong), almost as if he had just come from a conversation where he'd been discussing that with someone else.

coco

P.S. Or maybe he had also invited the someone else to attend the meeting or watch it from the office, or something, so much was it like he was still talking to someone else.

You may be absolutely correct.

I thought "office love" was something you did after hours on the conference room table

I was not able to make the town hall due to being at my rl job. I did read the transcript. I saw on at least two occasions where Phil gave out his email address. My question is:
Has anyone ever sent him an email and did they get a response back.

yes, and yes.

And was the response you received satisfactory?

Yes, it turns out that he also likes fish tacos from Rubios.

Oooh! Oooh! I know it's off-topic, but I have to ask....

Did he sign the guestbook at the upskirt museum?


- Newfie

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