What is wrong with people? Why are there so many bad folks?

Can I come? I don't know Haver, but I do enjoy beating the hell out of people so it could provide amusement for me...

you will have to realise that, once freed from all the consequences of a bad action, every human will have little to no hesitation to perform the said action. Its mainly because our survival instict tell us to think about ourself before thinking about the others.

If killing wasn't sanctioned i would prolly have done it a lot ... for the sport ^_^

I completely disagree wtih you. I agree most people have rather limited brain functions.. but i do believe that some people actually try to become better people.. and even without "consequences" they would still do the same.

and i don't think i would kill, for the simple fact i would probably feel the need to do it again, and i would rather respect life than destroy it.. i am a woman after all

If this were true, than why, out of the 300k plus population of SL does only this prick (and a few other assholes like him) do this "said action"?

PS: Haver, I'm so sorry and saddened this happened to you

He is also a member of a real estate group. I wonder if they realize (or care) how his actions are reflecting on their group? I wonder what would happen if everyone in their group was banned from several sims? Personally, when the day comes that I'm buying land, there's no way in hell I'm going to anyone in that creep's group. And be sure I'm warning my friends away from them, too. He fucked with the wrong girl when he picked on Haver.


In previous discussions about land swoopers, it's been repeatedly pointed out that the buy/sell land functions are horribly confusing and need to be streamlined. So far it's not even on the Lindens' radar -- are we surprised?


She is a bit overwhelmed right now with the number of good friends she has and how much we're supporting her. She wins, indeed, Big time. Mr. Fucknuts on the other hand is going to die a lonely, angry, sad old man ... I hope. The sooner the better, just to clean up humankind's gene pool.

Just one of the typically ethics-impaired asswipes that inhabit SL now-a-days. I doubt that a jerk like this is able to keep friends in RL. That's why so many of them come here.

I used to box new items for sale while in my store, because it gave me a chance to chat with customers and answer questions while I worked. One day I was chatting with a couple customers and noticed they both kept trying to click on the box I was currently working on. (I could tell from their particle streams) I thought they were just impatient and wanted the item right away, and told them it would be done in a second.

As soon as I clicked the For Sale box, with the 10L default still listed (since you can't change that before you mark it for sale like you can with land) 2 sales immediately went through, selling the item for 10 Lindens each. Both customers immediately ported away. Only then did I realize these cheap little bastards were standing there just waiting for that brief moment when they could get a 50 Linden item for 10 Lindens.

The things people will do to scam someone out of money or land no longer surprise me, which is a sad state of affairs. Some people have no shame to begin with, and with the added anonymity of being online, it only frees them up to scam and decieve even more than they would in real life. Scumbags offline will be scumbags online as well, tenfold.

I have complete faith in the Hobbesian view of human nature. If some people can get away with it, they'll do it. That being said, people aren't *all* bad, most are really pretty decent, but I think it's an extreme fallacy to believe in the noble savage - there's nothing noble about savages and societies that have believed in such fallacies, well take a look at Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge's wholesale slaughter, nuff said. Civilisation, despite all its flaws with legal systems, culture, religion and whatnot, is what makes us insanely successful animals on this planet. It makes it possible to get along with each other while minimising our killing each other, the more complex and layered our societies are, the better standards of living and safer existence we all have.

As far as killing, I would kill someone without blinking an eye, if its boiled down to me or them and they were intent on killing me. I'd rather not do it, because killing is messy, and you can't take it back if you did it by accident. Been in the position before when I was 19 and lived in the States, where I had to consider if I had to take a life, and I was the winner - cowardly male breaking into my house after months of harrassment backed down when he realised he wasn't going to survive the encounter with the woman he *thought* was weaker than him, who turned out to be armed with a .45 automatic (and I know how to use it) and two Great Danes, and had just called the police before confronting him with it. I'm all for retroactive abortion concerning people like that

Sadly, people like that exist and you have to be prepared for them. They don't scare me, its just life. Our civilisation makes their actions accountable to the law thank god, but sometimes the law isnt able to get there when we need it right away.

And I am a woman after all... and I am not given to getting emotional in a bind, despite my female sex, I can be a cold calculating individual who intends to win every time in such encounters. Hence why I am still alive and not a statistic of violence against women. Not good to assume all women are warm fuzzy individuals I pick and choose who deserves the warm fuzzy feelings, not everyone deserves them. I place a high value on my affection, and who receives it bloody well deserves it.

As far as SL is concerned, death doesn't occur if you're shot (just a nuisance) and most things are survivable, but land costs real life money, and there needs to be a way to reverse a land sale with no charges in tier and full refund of money in the first minutes, or at least put in a slight delay to things showing up in the find to cut down on these situations. The tools are confusing for many people.

I personally have never had a problem with the land tools, but I have seen it first hand people make these terrible mistakes, or almost make them. It's too easy to do, despite the warnings. One time actually was there for one, neighbor was selling me her land, luckily the land swooper in that instance gave the woman back her land that she accidently set for sale for 512 lindens to anyone - wish they were all ethical :/ Some are, at least. Just not all. Maybe in the long run this person who ripped off Haver Cole, will learn that bad reputation is not a good thing in the long run, online that's really all you have is reputation, and a good one gets you farther financially than a bad one.

But we have to realise, not everyone is really interested in the money, or thinks rationally about these things - the internet seems to overly attract a certain sort of individuals who exhibit narcissistic behaviour, who gets off more on the attention received, be it positive or negative, rather than on whether the situation actually benefits them long term. And this could be the case in this instance, in which this thread would be feeding their ego something fierce. It's maddening that such broken people exist, but they do. :/

ok, I'll stop rambling now

I do think that there are humans who are flawed, and have the mental illness of naricissm.. But I also think there are amazing people out there.. there have been socities in the past where the laws were not as structured as ours are today and they rose above themselves.. People generally fail to see what is for the greater good will be better for them in the long run.. Unfortunately all socities today is about instant gratification and something now or its all about them and that is a good enough excuse for them...

Women tend to be more calculating as you say you are.. I am when I need to be.. Once upon a time long long ago I used to run around with a "bad" crowd.. I prefer to be non violent, but when needed I have no problem "stepping up".. but it is no fun, and being nicer is such more enjoyable..

They have been doing this, swooping the land, and leaving a listening device, so they can AR those who where just scammed, further victimizing them.

David, im getting with you in game tonite and find out this scoundrals name, and i for one will not now or ever buy land from him or any of his affiliates, groups or companies. If everyone boycots the scum of SL they wont have anyone to sell it to, if they cant sell, they have no reason to buy...i recommend you ask any Realty group selling land if they are in the practice of scamming land, if so, tell them you prefer to do business with honest ppl...just an idea, could work if we all backed the idea...id rather pay a bit more for land than know it was come by at someone elses loss...

Agreed, cinda. There are now merchant groups trying to stem IP theft. You would think real estate groups would want to band together to separate themselves from the scum amongst them.

Isn't using listener devices without knowledge of the ones being listened a bannable offence by itself?



That's exactly why my template vendor boxes i keep in my inventory are pre-set for sale for 1000 lindens

If they're remote listeners. A listen while you're actually there isn't a TOS breach, reasonably enough. Practically impossible to prove though.