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Torley Linden
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05-01-2006 18:03
Just an update of this situation: a fix has been implemented. As for those who've already purchased the land under these auctions, we're still looking into the details and they will be contacted to be informed. Thanx muchly to all who provided info.
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nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 18:05
From: Torley Linden
Just an update of this situation: a fix has been implemented. As for those who've already purchased the land under these auctions, we're still looking into the details and they will be contacted to be informed. Thanx muchly to all who provided info.

And thanks to Elvawin for bringing it to our attention! :D
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Elvawin Rainbow
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05-01-2006 18:12
I was just jealios because I didnt have a dollar to buy my own :(

That and I still haven;t had this damn conscience surgically removed
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Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 18:16
From: Torley Linden
Just an update of this situation: a fix has been implemented. As for those who've already purchased the land under these auctions, we're still looking into the details and they will be contacted to be informed. Thanx muchly to all who provided info.


Contacted to be informed of what? I hope it has the words 'banned' and optionally 'lowlife' or 'sleazebag' or 'scumbucket' or... in it somewhere. I don't think there's any way to justify this. They were deliberately sneaking in the back door of the auction system and ripping it off. I'm going to be rather upset if they get to hang around after this. People who do this sort of shit have no conscience and wouldn't think twice about doing it again given the opportunity.
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nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 18:20
Great news! The names of the people who bid are now off the search list, including the alts... I hope Sensual is safe!

Edit: Nevermind, she is, her name shows up. :D
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Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 18:22
From: nimrod Yaffle
Great news! The names of the people who bid are now off the search list, including the alts... I hope Sensual is safe!

Edit: Nevermind, she is, her name shows up. :D


Good, I hope it's permanent, and not some idiotic 7 day suspension.
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nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 18:26
From: Karsten Rutledge
Good, I hope it's permanent, and not some idiotic 7 day suspension.

Same, as well as an IP and CC ban (though, there are many ways around that). I checked the police blotter but didn't see anything. Anyone know how long it takes to update?
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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05-01-2006 18:29
From: nimrod Yaffle
Same, as well as an IP and CC ban


IP bans just inconvienience the next person to getthat IP address.

I would like to know what is done about this though, given that a lot of the land would have already been sold on to people who bought it in good faith. (Do you check to see if land is stolen before buying? I don't! )
nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 18:36
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
IP bans just inconvienience the next person to getthat IP address.

I would like to know what is done about this though, given that a lot of the land would have already been sold on to people who bought it in good faith. (Do you check to see if land is stolen before buying? I don't! )

I am talking to a well know land reseller (not Anshe or Marm) and they said they sold her land for $3/m from the sim on thursday.
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Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 18:37
From: nimrod Yaffle
Same, as well as an IP and CC ban (though, there are many ways around that). I checked the police blotter but didn't see anything. Anyone know how long it takes to update?


Do you ever feel a tad bit hypocritical? :p
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05-01-2006 18:39
From: Clarrice Cinquetti
I am glad the residents in this thread brought this to Lindens attention! Thanks!



I concur! Am not in the land buying business but seriously.........
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Genvieve Pontoppidan
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05-01-2006 18:44
DANGIT... you mean I missed an opportunity to buy a sim for $1 USD????


Grr... I miss all the good stuff!
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Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 18:52
From: Genvieve Pontoppidan
DANGIT... you mean I missed an opportunity to buy a sim for $1 USD????


Grr... I miss all the good stuff!
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No, you missed an opportunity to get banned!

(we hope)
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Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 18:58
For some entertaining readin':

/145/17/104100/1.html#post1016869

Mez whining about his punishment for abusing the auction system. He says he was just making the economy stronger, that's all!
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05-01-2006 19:00
Reading between the lines, it seems his account got closed. Double thumbs up to LL for that.
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nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 19:09
From: Karsten Rutledge
Do you ever feel a tad bit hypocritical? :p

I never stole land, only cheap objects. Also, I gave back/paid back what I took. :D
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nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 19:09
From: Karsten Rutledge
Reading between the lines, it seems his account got closed. Double thumbs up to LL for that.

Yep, talking to his RL "slave" right now, I'll update you all with what I find. :p

Edit: I don't think it's entirely his fault (Edit: I do, he should have known better. I know I'm a flip flopper like Kerry :D), I found this a while ago but dismissed it as a bug when a Linden told me that they were actually charged the minimum (I forget which Linden :(). I guess this is just a bug in the system that he took advantage of. I wonder if LL will charge them the $999 or different between what they paid and 1k, or let them go.
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05-01-2006 19:20
From: Karsten Rutledge
Reading between the lines, it seems his account got closed. Double thumbs up to LL for that.

Umm yeah but he is easily on another account, well ... hmmm..
nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 19:23
From: Sensual Casanova
Umm yeah but he is easily on another account, well ... hmmm..

He was on Willow, and his RL slave plays, so it's not like he can't get back in. I'm sure other people who have been banned are back in, I just hope he didn't make major profits from it and cashout already.
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Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 19:32
From: Sensual Casanova
Umm yeah but he is easily on another account, well ... hmmm..


Yeah. Having your main account closed is a pretty big smackdown, though, you have to admit. I'm happy enough with that if it's permanent.

Plus, LL isn't very good with the whole alt thing. You can sign up for a new account with the exact same name, address, phone number, security questions, etc, etc, and only change your CC number and the account system goes 'oh hey new person hi :)' You can even have the same card holder name entered.
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Sensual Casanova
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05-01-2006 19:36
From: nimrod Yaffle
Great news! The names of the people who bid are now off the search list, including the alts... I hope Sensual is safe!

Edit: Nevermind, she is, her name shows up. :D


And yes I am safe :) Thanks for looking out hehe...
I was taking a cat nap :P
Karsten Rutledge
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05-01-2006 19:36
From: nimrod Yaffle
Yep, talking to his RL "slave" right now, I'll update you all with what I find. :p

Edit: I don't think it's entirely his fault (Edit: I do, he should have known better. I know I'm a flip flopper like Kerry :D), I found this a while ago but dismissed it as a bug when a Linden told me that they were actually charged the minimum (I forget which Linden :(). I guess this is just a bug in the system that he took advantage of. I wonder if LL will charge them the $999 or different between what they paid and 1k, or let them go.


I'm sorry, but it IS his fault. Just because LL had a hole in the system does not make it not his fault that he exploited it. There's NO WAY he did not know that getting sims for $1 USD was seriously fucked up. That's just plain bullshit.
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nimrod Yaffle
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05-01-2006 19:46
From: Karsten Rutledge
I'm sorry, but it IS his fault. Just because LL had a hole in the system does not make it not his fault that he exploited it. There's NO WAY he did not know that getting sims for $1 USD was seriously fucked up. That's just plain bullshit.

Hey now, I edited it, didn't I? :p
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05-01-2006 21:19
OMg this is hilarious...
/130/35/104103/1.html#post1017034
Lorien Languish
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05-01-2006 22:54
Hrmm... exploiting the auction system.... a rash of grid killing attacks.... alt's "out the whazoo"....

things that make you go "hrmmmm" ;)
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