Alts becoming government officials

Your offer was to give 2 of us a house the very day of the offer, just for pulling the houses from use. I did it right away, and in a later post you said the house would be forthcoming that very day. Kendra even asked me if I received the house yet, and said it would be in my inventory within a day.

I can locate the offer if you would like.

I am not personally attacking her, I'm reminding her that she hasn't kept her promise to restore the victims.

Thank you! Finally, some moderation in this forum.

I'll cool my jets. Thread closed.

~Ulrika~

Then take it private. It's not germaine to the topic of this thread.

I am the op of this thread, I started it to examine issues surrounding the idea a person banned from from citizenship might create an alt. That topic has blossomed into further discussion.

Could you please post the law/founding document that says an op of a thread must keep the thread on topic? Can you show me an example of a legal moderator locking or moderating a thread only because the topic has wandered?

Your topic which was about alts sneaking into Government has devolved into a private complaint about housing promises.

It is the private nature of the argument that has caused me to issue a reminder to stay on topic.

As I am "legally"as you put it) the Observing moderator I am not locking the thread, but I am advising you to stay on topic and not get into a personal squabble.

I'd notice the absence of Kevn's posts and input -- and, again, no, I'm not his alt. I'm just becoming a fan of his earnestness. He may be obstinate and annoying at times, but I've not seen him be nasty nor viciously unkind.

Too bad your many, many, many governmental rules and regulations and laws don't contain civility clauses -- a whole lot of nastiness flows forth from N'berg.

I like to think of Neualtenburg as a great big mirror.

Don't pin this on N'burg. It's a problem with all forums.

~Ulrika~

Ah. So, since everyone else is doing it, then we all may as well do it and take no personal responsibility for how we treat others? Just say what the heck we feel, no matter how rude or hurtful or uncalled for?

No thanks.

No. I just said don't pin it on N'burg.

~Ulrika~

Unless I misinterpret the LL forum guidelines COMPLETELY, this being a subforum (or it's own) does NOT mean that TOS guidelines on personal attacks and direct personal insults go by the wayside.

Ulrika, your posts have ALWAYS been on the edge if not over --- in the above, it's WAY over.

I will definitely email LL about you and your posts directly... and point them to this and other threads and posts you have made in recent days. Hopefully, they will agree that you SHOULD be banned, not suspended. Obviously, the mods of this particular subforum don't know what objective review and moderation ARE and need to be helped by LL personnel.

Yes. This time I've gone too far.

~Ulrika~

How will this "verify an official is not an alt"?

Is it not possible for someone to have more than one premium account? Or if it is, may only one of those premium accounts hold land?

I thought that you could have up to five avatars, each of which could be a premium account holder as long as you felt like keeping up the monthly base payments, and that each of those five avatars could enjoy all the rights of a premium account, including holding land. So if I felt like paying 3x$9.95 a month, I could have three avatars each with 512 m² of land on the mainland. Or even cheaper if I paid for three or twelve months at a time.

I would rather prefer, in any event, not to make land ownership (and, therefore, a premium account) mandatory for involvement in government. On the whole, I'm fairly happy with my basic account.

Making seats in government available only to the "elite" who can afford to (or wish to) pay for a premium accounts strikes me, personally, as undesirable.

I couldn't agree more Thank you for stating it so clearly!

If any of my assumptions below are demonstrably false, please correct me (and cite something).

A)A a single person can hold a maximum of:
1 Premium Account and up to 5 Basic (alt) accounts

B)Only Premium account holders can own land.

C)The only way within world to determine if an avatar is not an alt to is ensure that it is a premium account holder by verifying land ownership on the mainland.

Now I'm not suggesting that we should require premium membership of RA members, Dean and GM. What I am suggesting is that it is the only way I know of to prove that they are not alts.

I also suggest to you that a single human holding seats as Dean, LRA and GM with alts is not democracy, but at best a dictatorship roleplaying democracy with multiple personalities. We could all engage in this sort of roleplay for roleplay's sake, but I don't think citizens here would prefer it, especially those who don't like potential conflict of interest, collusion and corruption.

I don't like the elitism of the premium account requirement idea any more than either of you do. I'm not suggesting it as policy. I'm pointing out a weakness of the current approach and you've pointed out the weakness of an alternative.

I believe each alt can become a premium account holder by paying $9.95 per month.

If that's truly the case then we should change nothing and alts are just a limitation we have to live with. That's a sticky problem. Can I cascade and have more than 5 accounts overall? Or is the upper limit 5 Premiums per person?

6 accounts per house address I believe.

yep. It's a non-issue. Seriously.

There are other options.

What do you have in mind? Something with UUID? Something using RL ID? Something where each seat requires 6 votes?

BTW: This post is a thought experiment, and an exercise in problem solving, not a policy debate.

The government officials could be required to provide a home phone number to the sim owner. Then she could verify their location, possible making a few phone calls in the process.

I certainly wouldn't mind providing my phone number in order to become a government official if I was so inclined.

Hell No.

Are you afraid of the sim owner?