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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 13:49
From: Colette Meiji What part of simulating the injuries caused by child rape is funny?
I think perhaps you didn't understand what Lana was describing. Rape? I was just commenting on the panties. That was it on my part. Responding to Bracken: For your and anyone elses benefit I'm repeating what I had said earlier. Try to keep up with me, Bracken. You're always falling behind in forums class. I w-a-s j-u-s-t c-o-m-m-e-n-t-i-n-g o-n t-h-e p-a-n-t-ies. T-h-a-t w-a-s i-t. In order words, in more simpler terms. Breaking it down as simple and easy as I possible can I wasn't commenting on anything else. Not rape, not about any kid, not about any child avie, not about anything else. Had I said anything else it would of included more but since I didn't then don't add more to it then it was intended. I hope I was able to break it down for you and anyone else who couldn't understand my first response. I know it's hard but keep up, please.
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Bradley Bracken
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02-18-2008 13:54
From: Ricardo Harris Rape? I was just commenting on the panties. That was it on my part. An avatar with pigtails, a pacifier and blood panties. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out, Harris. I rarely agree with you, but I at least thought you were intelligent.
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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 14:10
I keep reading that those who state they are underage have brought it upon themselves. I still think it's not your business for doing this. This is the problem nowadays, too many people getting involved usually from behind doors in affairs that doesn't concern them. Do you believe everything you're told? Judging from this I would say yes.
I also saw where it was said if someones kid was doing something they would want to be imformed. If you monitor your kid the way you're suppose to there wouldn't be any need for anyone to do it for you. It's your responsibilty as a parent, not anyone elses. Stop with the parental excuses.
If Linden didn't want all this kid stuff to go on they wouldn't allow kids avatars in sl. But since they do it's not your business to monitor them. You're not in charge, you're no ones big brother. Let it be.
This is exactly why you can't trust anyone. They'll backstab you quicker then you know then justify it as doing something good, as doing their duty. Watch out for yourself and your kids and don't lose any sleep over anyone else. It's not your concern regardless of what you think.
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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 14:22
OOps, but ok. My response is to you, Bracken is before your post. Don't get lost now, I know it's difficult at times.
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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 14:25
From: Bradley Bracken An avatar with pigtails, a pacifier and blood panties. Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out, Harris.
I rarely agree with you, but I at least thought you were intelligent. You rarely agree with me? Don't be modest. We never agree, that's more like it. Edit: And I wouldn't have it any other way. Includes a few others in here too.
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Bradley Bracken
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02-18-2008 14:28
From: Ricardo Harris You rarely agree with me? Don't be modest. We never agree, that's more like it.
Edit: And I wouldn't have it any other way. Incudes a few others in here too. Actually Ricardo, there was definitely one and I think two times recently which I responded back that I agreed with you. I must not have been feeling well.
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02-18-2008 14:35
From: Aduro Barbosa Hello. I am the manager for the lead singer of a band who uses Second Life to promote her music. Her resident name is Pyro Electricteeth. Three or four days ago, both she and I received an email containing suspicions that we were under aged. I am 43 years old and Pyro is 19. Clearly, we are not under aged. We did as Linden Lab asked and faxed copies of our state IDs to them to be inspected. For some reason, LL reopened my account but they DID NOT REOPEN PYRO ELECTRICTEETH's. She is quite frustrated about this, as she has an in-world clothing store, a huge and rare inventory, and has been spending loads of her money on SL for over a year. This is completely outrageous, and I would really like some answers from the Lindens. Thank you, Aduro Barbosa I would just like to bring something to your attention. I have noticed that Pyro hangs out in Waterhead sometimes. There is a man who hangs out at Waterhead also who made something called the "Brash Kick", I believe. Pyro knows who he is. One day I was listening in on the conversation in Waterhead (voice), and this man was on an alt account; he said he had been banned due to suspicion of him being underage. He clearly is not underage. I suspect both he, Pyro, and yourself were all reported at Waterhead. My advice to you is to stay away from there with business accounts. As you may know, it is a wild west sort of atmosphere even though they shut off all scripting abilities lately. Some people just sit around there and AR people they do not like. Be safe. P.S. I've heard Pyro sing on voice before in SL; she has a great voice!
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Colette Meiji
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02-18-2008 14:47
From: Ricardo Harris Rape? I was just commenting on the panties. That was it on my part.
Responding to Bracken:
For your and anyone elses benefit I'm repeating what I had said earlier. Try to keep up with me, Bracken. You're always falling behind in forums class.
I w-a-s j-u-s-t c-o-m-m-e-n-t-i-n-g o-n t-h-e p-a-n-t-ies. T-h-a-t w-a-s i-t.
In order words, in more simpler terms. Breaking it down as simple and easy as I possible can I wasn't commenting on anything else. Not rape, not about any kid, not about any child avie, not about anything else. Had I said anything else it would of included more but since I didn't then don't add more to it then it was intended.
I hope I was able to break it down for you and anyone else who couldn't understand my first response. I know it's hard but keep up, please. We were commenting on the context the C-O-N-T-E-X-T Laughing considering the context of her post was in horribly poor taste. Sorry *you* got lost in her post and didn't realize what she was referring to.
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Saucey Barbecue
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02-18-2008 16:27
From: Ricardo Harris I keep reading that those who state they are underage have brought it upon themselves. No you haven't. You've read it maybe twice, I said it and someone agreed with me. From: Ricardo Harris I still think it's not your business for doing this. This is the problem nowadays, too many people getting involved usually from behind doors in affairs that doesn't concern them. Do you believe everything you're told? Judging from this I would say yes. I've made it my business. From: Ricardo Harris I also saw where it was said if someones kid was doing something they would want to be imformed. If you monitor your kid the way you're suppose to there wouldn't be any need for anyone to do it for you. It's your responsibilty as a parent, not anyone elses. Stop with the parental excuses. I have no children and won't be monitoring the nonexistant. I WILL take it upon myself to AR anyone who states in my presense that they are in SL in violation of the TOS or CS. From: Ricardo Harris If Linden didn't want all this kid stuff to go on they wouldn't allow kids avatars in sl. What exactly do you mean by "kid stuff"? What "kid stuff" have you been involved with? Methinks thou doth complain too much. From: Ricardo Harris But since they do it's not your business to monitor them. You're not in charge, you're no ones big brother. Let it be. 1: They don't and I'm monitoring no-one, 2: I don't pretend to be, 3: Neither are you, and 4: No. From: Ricardo Harris This is exactly why you can't trust anyone. They'll backstab you quicker then you know then justify it as doing something good, as doing their duty. Watch out for yourself and your kids and don't lose any sleep over anyone else. It's not your concern regardless of what you think. You're still complaining too much. It IS my concern, and YOU WON'T CHANGE THAT. I will continue to AR ANYone who claims to be underage. You will continue to feel free to be able to do nothing about it.
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Lana Tomba
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02-18-2008 16:39
I just wanted to clarify because truly i didn't have the nerve to go into detail before and maybe it was easy to misinterpret what i was trying to describe. The "panties" were in fact an article of clothing (underwear i assumed) that were painted as a Targa to appear as bloody hand prints on her buttocks. What bothers me more about this is..I would suspect theres a market out there for this type of thing. Child Rape kits?...no..but the wrong mentalities being able to cross reference creative content and mix and match child avatars with other things inorder to carry out their illegal fantasies. I'm sorry that i didn't make myself more clear on that point. If it weren't such a serious subject I suspect it would look "rediculous". I only Thank God I didn't see anyone with her. I suspect she had gone afk after an encounter but i'd like to hope maybe she simply sat there waiting for someone to "jump on" and that never happened.(wishful thinking) ~Lana Tomba
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Sunni Jewell
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02-18-2008 16:54
From: Ricardo Harris I keep reading that those who state they are underage have brought it upon themselves. I still think it's not your business for doing this. This is the problem nowadays, too many people getting involved usually from behind doors in affairs that doesn't concern them. Do you believe everything you're told? Judging from this I would say yes.
I also saw where it was said if someones kid was doing something they would want to be imformed. If you monitor your kid the way you're suppose to there wouldn't be any need for anyone to do it for you. It's your responsibilty as a parent, not anyone elses. Stop with the parental excuses.
If Linden didn't want all this kid stuff to go on they wouldn't allow kids avatars in sl. But since they do it's not your business to monitor them. You're not in charge, you're no ones big brother. Let it be.
This is exactly why you can't trust anyone. They'll backstab you quicker then you know then justify it as doing something good, as doing their duty. Watch out for yourself and your kids and don't lose any sleep over anyone else. It's not your concern regardless of what you think. I'm the one who said I would want to be informed if my child was doing something dangerous or wrong. You know what...I can't be with my child 24/7...it's physically impossible, Ricardo. She does have friends and she goes to see them sometimes. Obviously, you were never a kid, and if you were, were your parents with you 24/7? Maybe they should have been, you might be a more positive and understanding person. Yes, if someone states to me that they are underage in RL, their style and syntax indicates to me that they are underage, yes, I will AR them. They are in violation of the TOS. If I find you in violation of the TOS, I'll AR your butt, too. You're wrong in saying that the problem is people don't mind their own business. The real problem is that people are so damned worried about political correctness, of not offending someone, of being called a "narc" that they let things go, things that are just plain wrong. And you know what? Those things they let go will someday affect everyone. Years ago there was a saying "it takes a village to raise a child". That didn't change, just the mentality and attitude of people in general changed. Of course, if something goes wrong with that child, it's the parents' fault then, but you know what else? Sometimes it's not. I think most parents try their best, but there are other influences in childrens' lives. You're not a parent, yet, are you, Ricardo? If I was walking down the street and saw someone getting the s**t beat out of them, I'd call the cops. If I saw someone breaking into my neighbor's house, I'd call the cops. If I made a mistake, it would be MY mistake to live with, but I could live with that mistake better than I could live with the mistake of doing nothing and seeing someone else suffer needlessly. I wouldn't just turn my back and figure it's not my problem. I'm a human being, and so is everyone else on this forum....that makes it everyone's problem! I never said child avatars are wrong.......they're not. Underage people on the grid is wrong. I don't pass my parental responsibilities off to anyone, so don't presume I do. You don't know me, at all. But, like I said, I can't be with my children 24/7, because the bills have to be paid and I'm one of the 2 people in the household who are responsible for paying them. It's also not fair to my 12 year old daughter to keep her locked up in the house because I'm not free to go outside with her and her friends at that exact moment in time. I do everything I can, already. I guess with people like you in the world, I'll do the best I can and just cross my fingers for the rest.
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Sunni Jewell
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02-18-2008 16:56
From: Bradley Bracken Actually Ricardo, there was definitely one and I think two times recently which I responded back that I agreed with you. I must not have been feeling well. /me takes Bradley's temperature and fixed him a hot cup of tea with honey. Nope, you definitely weren't feeling well those days.
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02-18-2008 18:22
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Oryx Tempel
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02-18-2008 18:33
From: Lana Tomba They should really try keeping their antics to private sims I would think...if for nothing else to avoid trouble...or should they?..Is it their responsibilty to restrict themselves because of a few bad apples? 
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Lana Tomba
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02-18-2008 20:27
yea?....and???...so?.....is it? ~Lana Tomba
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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 22:27
From: Lana Tomba I tend to go with the motto "if it isnt directly affecting me then i dont ar BUT.
I have seen some very strange things in SL...avatars with pig tails and pacifiers..blood panties...in a sex sim....tawkin wike a baby in der pwofile. I immidiately message the SIM owner. The SIM owner stands to lose everything if some media establishment chooses to report that or spalsh pictures all over the net.
i dont know what to say about a persons right to skew the lines of reality and fantasy.If it looks walks and quacks like a duck it prolly is.. I tend to avoid child avatars in general . I see all that baby talk in profiles and just move on. Same goes with people talki ng about their mum and Dad and brothers and sisters.
Was a hand full of people with that mentality in SL back in 04..now its everywhere. Never could understand the mystique behind finding virtual parents. That many latch key kids in RL and SL baby sits them?
~Lana Tomba I knew it. This is the post I was responding to when I made the comment of blood panties being funny. So where on it does it say anything about RAPE? About a child being raped? Where oh mighty sage? You guys just decided you wanted to add to it as I said in response the first time. Tomba herself never said anything in response to what I said like what some of you did. I found it strange she didn't but some of you did, if in fact it was true about the rape comments. The thing was I never went back to check to see the post I had responded to until now. Bracken, you especially since you began the whole thing. I read one or two more comments referring to the same thing you said. You all need to apologize for comments about me finding a child and rape being funny, depraved or my lack of intelligence towards realizing it as if the post I was responding to said anything about RAPE. Actually, you don't need to as it doesn't really mattern nor would I really want you to. I'll just rub it in your faces for a bit and this also goes to all the other/s who also joined in saying or insinuating the same thing about me. If someone added rape afterwards to the comments Tomba made, well, that's a different story. But I wasn't responding to anything but what she said. Get it right next time you want to appoint yourselfs forum vigilantes. As far as what I said about a parent taking responsibility for their own child. I didn't know who made the comment. I only read it.
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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 22:32
From: Bradley Bracken Knowing of a child who's panties where bloody after being raped by her grandfather and who then was slapped by her parents for telling lies, I don't find this funny one bit. I wouldn't ban it in SL but my personal opinion is that it's pretty damn depraved.
TSK, TSK. SHAME, SHAME, BRACKEN Your own words. Yes, I know. You didn't mean it the way you said or you wasn't insinuating anything of the sort in response to me. Of course not.
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Ricardo Harris
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02-18-2008 22:50
From: Saucey Barbecue
What exactly do you mean by "kid stuff"? What "kid stuff?
OK, here goes. They say a picture is worth a thousand words but in this case I believe I need to break it down a lot more. You wouldn't happen be related to Bracken would you? Kids stuff = Child avies, kids accessories like pacifiers and such things.
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Nimue Jewell
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02-18-2008 22:52
Ricardo, I consider myself anything but a forum vigilante, and I haven't posted in this thread before now, but I have to say that within the context of what Lana wrote I find it really difficult to interpret anything other than an intentional depiction of child rape, or, more accurately, its after effects.
That said, I have been reading this thread from the beginning and actually saw your post before any others appeared, and when I first read it I thought that you might have been laughing at the nonsensical phrase "blood panties" as it is, when completely out of context, unusual. I think if it read "bloody panties" then her meaning would have been even more clear. Still, I stand by my assertion that the only likely thing Lana's post could have been describing - a child in a sex sim wearing bloody panties - was an image of a child who had been raped.
OK, that is my two cents, which I would almost certianly be better off to keep to myself. Flame away everyone.
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Bradley Bracken
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02-18-2008 23:04
From: Ricardo Harris TSK, TSK. SHAME, SHAME, BRACKEN
Your own words.
Yes, I know. You didn't mean it the way you said or you wasn't insinuating anything of the sort in response to me. Of course not. You are incorrect. I did mean it the way I said it. As for insinuation, the only insinuation I was making is that you did what you always accuse others in the forums of doing -- not reading and comprehending a simple post. U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G what the post was about. Your error was simply poor judgment and taking that line out of context. If you can't see that then I need not make any further insinuations. Your words will speak for themselves, Harris.
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02-18-2008 23:49
From: Lana Tomba yea?....and???...so?.....is it?
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Lana Tomba
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02-19-2008 02:14
From: Chris Norse Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem Vos es stolidus!
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Ricardo Harris
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02-19-2008 02:43
From: Bradley Bracken You are incorrect. I did mean it the way I said it.
As for insinuation, the only insinuation I was making is that you did what you always accuse others in the forums of doing -- not reading and comprehending a simple post. U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G what the post was about. Your error was simply poor judgment and taking that line out of context.
If you can't see that then I need not make any further insinuations. Your words will speak for themselves, Harris. Are you mad? You bring up rape of a child into my post which had nothing to do with that and when I show you proof of what you did -which is there biting you in your ass- you still deny it? Tell me you weren't insinuating I was laughing about rape and a child? But it's ok because no amount of trying to twist it around can deny the truth. I put it there for your benefit and for everyone else to see. You're either on strong meds or you're on self denial. Just as I predicted, you would try to weasel your way out by now insisting you weren't trying to say what you did. This is why I wrote in a thread the other day I can read some of you very loud and clear and you dear boy are in the upper echelon in that prestigious group.
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Ricardo Harris
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02-19-2008 02:52
From: Nimue Jewell Ricardo, I consider myself anything but a forum vigilante, and I haven't posted in this thread before now, but I have to say that within the context of what Lana wrote I find it really difficult to interpret anything other than an intentional depiction of child rape, or, more accurately, its after effects.
That said, I have been reading this thread from the beginning and actually saw your post before any others appeared, and when I first read it I thought that you might have been laughing at the nonsensical phrase "blood panties" as it is, when completely out of context, unusual. I think if it read "bloody panties" then her meaning would have been even more clear. Still, I stand by my assertion that the only likely thing Lana's post could have been describing - a child in a sex sim wearing bloody panties - was an image of a child who had been raped. You see what you wrote? You did the same thing Bracken did. You said you're assertion of what you read was rape of a child. You assumed, you believed, you thought Tombs was referring to a child who had been raped when in fact she never mentioned the word rape in her entire post. Now did she? NO! Then Bracken does the same thing and makes his remarks to me and when I show him he still denys it. The best part is it's all here for all to see. It's not hard to understand what a person is getting at once you read what they write. But at least you weren't dumb enough to put your foot in your mouth as someone else did over and over. I understand your explanation.
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