I Want Jiggly Bewbs!

What "actual emerald code" are you referring to? Does their viewer make use of a separate executable or server which is NOT part of their viewer?

Modular Systems would have to architect their code VERY carefully to be able to sequester any viewer function from having to be open source. It would be a difficult and painstaking task. Otherwise they would be in violation of the GNU license, which governs distribution of LL's code:
http://secondlifegrid.net/technology-programs/license-virtual-world/viewerlicensing

Indeed, Modular seems well aware of this:

I realise that - presumably the effect will eventually be tied to the avatar appearance so the jiggle can be personalised.

On the other hand, it used to be said by some on these forums that it would never be possible to have proper shadows in SL - but LL have now got that very option buried away in the 1.23 viewer, although at present it slows the frame rate down a lot.

Yes. And don't forget it!

Luv it!

Yes. We can see that.
Never mind, you prolly haven't stop growing yet.

I was just checking out the multiple clothing layers option on Emerald - I couldn't get it to work. Then I looked on the Emerald forums and apparently you can't do extra clothing layers yet. All you get is a button saying 'layers' in place of the stack of clothing buttons in appearance editor. But the button doesn't do anything meaningful.

I thought I'd save people some time so they don't waste half an hour trying to figure out how to make extra layers!!!

And more than a mouthful is greedy.
*THREE* bewbs? /me is confused.
You promised you wouldn't publish stills if I webcammed with you!
I have news for you, Scylla, it's already possible - and I use the facility.
Not on *my* screen.

Pep (In the 70's an university engineer friend of mine proposed building a motion-enabled virtual model of the female torso as his PHD thesis; it was rejected by the professor on the basis that he would learn more by studying the subject in real life. Honestly!)

Prim attachments to the breasts do not move with the breasts -- a big bummer in my opinion cuz I like my prim nipples sometimes.

Yes, we can turn it off or on with a simple checkbox on the Effects tab.

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Not totally true - If I turn on jiggly boobs, my friends does see my boobs jiggling -- granted he is running Emerald also, so that may play into it.

My understanding is that others cannot make my boobs jiggle for them. My settings affect my boobs, but others can see it and their settings affect their boobs.


I may be totally wrong here -- goes to read more and experiment more.

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Damn, damn, damn -- totally backasswards of how I thought it worked.

Crap.

Yep... the viewer determines what *you* see, not what others see. The problem is much older than jiggling boobs. I can spend all day making detailed, high-prim attachments that fit beautifully, but to the person not viewing with shiny and high prim detail, they'll be clunky, jaggy messes. If someone has a low bandwidth, my sculpted shoes will be stupid-looking grey blobs hovering round my ankles.

Yeah, as I stop and think about it, it makes perfect sense and something I should have realized right away. My friend will be happy to know this as he was a bit bummed out when I said I was going back to the previous version cuz the newer one seemed to be slower and seemed to crash more.

Yeh, I had what I thought was a nice looking magpie avatar that I didn't realize was "shiny" and looked, well, like a cheap plastic molding to people who had shiny. Alas, this was deliberate, and it was no-mod.

Once I got a computer that could handle shiny... I turned it off, right away. This was back when shiny was relatively new, and people were massively overusing it. And I had to quit wearing my magpie. It was at least a year before I turned shiny on again, and thank god the novelty had worn off by then.

Or your chin, perhaps.

Oh I have the latest version of Emerald, but didn't notice any of the features you mentioned. Can you tell me how they can be enabled?

Click the checkbox "Enable enhanced physics on avatar breasts"

Set
Breast mass: 100
Breast rebound: 1
Breast max vel: 100
Breast friction: 1
Breast z influence: 100 (why does it keep going back to 1?)
Breast min velocity: 1

Then stand back. A person could lose an eye.

BTW, I've seen some mention a need to log out and then back in. I don't know if it is necessary, but if you don't see anything that may be why.

Also, different breasts react differently. Some breasts are based on the wireframe and will respond dramatically. Breasts that are painted into ones clothes are not as noticeable.

I would be interested in hearing from women seeking a more moderate appearance what strategies might they employ to maintain a bust line without becoming a burlesque show.

Thanks for the information on the boob physics lol. But I was more focused on the ability to wear infinite layers at once (aside from attachment point I think the extremely limited clothing layers is the most major flaw in SL). And what does "disable avatar mesh" do? I can't find that one either.

Oh, suuure you were.

I get you.

*wink*

If I'm not mistaken, multiple clothing layers has not been implemented yet, just like the shadow rendering feature. The UI is there, but the feature isn't.

Ah I see.
Oh and apparently the extra attachment points do not work either, probably still in beta testing. My friends are seeing my attachments floating in random spots when attached to a new attachment spot.

The way Emerald has it setup now? There's isn't anything we can do to prevent it at this point.. other than reducing bewb size or wearing prim/sculpt clothes big enough to cover them when others bounce them at max settings. Personally, I don't really care that much about others seeing me flop.. well, not enough to consider changing my shape for it. If that means someone is getting a cheap jolly from that.. hey, hope it was good for ya. I DID put my "best viewed at.." settings in my profile, in case there's actually someone who would want to see me the way I'd have it set.. but I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.

I'm still pissed that I have to log on an alt to see the effect on myself though. Planning a "max jiggle compliant" outfit is annoying enough without needing to see what I'm adjusting for through a different set of eyes. I can't be the only one who sees the effect on everyone else, but not on myself..

I thought that the extra attachment points actually DO work correctly, but only when viewed through Emerald.. it's the other viewers that see them as floating in random spots.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my observation is that the jiggle is based on changes in an avatars position. It appears that when standing still and running an animation (such as a dance) there is no jiggle.