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Autumn Palen
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10-16-2009 18:20
From: Dagmar Heideman
Since you gave the green light :D


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Farallon Greyskin
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10-16-2009 18:28
I use the emerald viewer but I can;t help feeling that we are on the virge of a true fragmentation of the SL experience if this keep up.

The new viewer also apparently has dual attachment points (Havent tried that out), but only other emerald viewers can see the second attached object.

What it they add floppy sculpties next?

Pretty soon you'll only be able to view a person or a build in the viewer they built their content for. That'll be a sad development.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for independant developers kicking the L's butt with new features since they have almost given up on the viewer it seems. But I also don;t want to see a world where I have to go to "emerald sims" to see proper content...

But if we are headed that way, how about the ability for parcel owners to spec windlight settings for their parcel!?!?!? :D
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10-16-2009 18:31
From: LittleMe Jewell
On the options for the boobies bouncing - I was told to set the first one high, the second one low, and the 3rd one high. Leave the last 3 alone and then check the first box.

The jiggle definitely shows more for those more endowed and certain clothing seems to minimize the effect also. Oh and prim nipple will now look funny cuz they will not move with the bewbies (damn).



So, question: how does this effect avatars wearing prim based bra type items? I expect badly... Which is going to really suck for the people making them. Any way for the avatar to turn it off for themselves?
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10-16-2009 18:39
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10-16-2009 18:41
From: Farallon Greyskin
I use the emerald viewer but I can;t help feeling that we are on the virge of a true fragmentation of the SL experience if this keep up.


From what I read, Emerald viewer has a ton of great options that should be in the official viewer (though I do not count "jiggly boobs" as one of those great options).

If alternate viewers just provided some alternatives that might appeal to some people, then there wouldn't be great fragmentation. When you have a viewer that just completely blows away the official viewer by a ton, then fragmentation is going to happen. (Again, though, I make it clear that I do not consider "jiggly boobs" as a great or essential feature.)
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10-16-2009 18:54
From: Amity Slade
From what I read, Emerald viewer has a ton of great options that should be in the official viewer (though I do not count "jiggly boobs" as one of those great options).

If alternate viewers just provided some alternatives that might appeal to some people, then there wouldn't be great fragmentation. When you have a viewer that just completely blows away the official viewer by a ton, then fragmentation is going to happen. (Again, though, I make it clear that I do not consider "jiggly boobs" as a great or essential feature.)

However, this is the beauty of open-source software. ANY of the other viewer developers - including LL itself - can adapt and incorporate the desired new features. In fact, one of the guiding principles of the open-source movement is that beneficial changes made downstream of the "official" source are offered back upstream so others can benefit.
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10-16-2009 20:20
From: Isablan Neva
So, question: how does this effect avatars wearing prim based bra type items? I expect badly... Which is going to really suck for the people making them. Any way for the avatar to turn it off for themselves?

This is entirely client side. It is like me setting the lighting to mid-day. It only effects what I see. If I turn on boob wiggles you will notice nothing, nor would you be able to change my settings any more than you could change my windlight settings.
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10-16-2009 20:31
/me is enormously amused by all this excitement. In general, I'm all for innovations that add to the verisimilitude of the SL in-world experience, but the fuss about THIS new "great leap forward" (and not just here on the forums) is really pretty . . . well, entertaining. :cool:

ETA: I'd be more interested in this if the avatar in question had actual control over the jiggling effect. I find the fact that others can, in essence, MAKE my boobs jiggle in their viewers without my even knowing it mildly creepy, actually. It's like equipping the male population of SL with X-Ray glasses. Which, I'm sure, will be the NEXT "Great Leap Forward." :rolleyes:
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10-16-2009 20:39
From: Scylla Rhiadra
/me is enormously amused by all this excitement. In general, I'm all for innovations that add to the verisimilitude of the SL in-world experience, but the fuss about THIS new "great leap forward" (and not just here on the forums) is really pretty . . . well, entertaining. :cool:

ETA: I'd be more interested in this if the avatar in question had actual control over the jiggling effect. I find the fact that others can, in essence, MAKE my boobs jiggle in their viewers without my even knowing it mildly creepy, actually. It's like equipping the male population of SL with X-Ray glasses. Which, I'm sure, will be the NEXT "Great Leap Forward." :rolleyes:


It's just another case of male chauvinsim raising its ugly pimply head, Scylla. Pay no attention to them. They'll all be bald in a few years time and they'll all look like di*kheads and maybe we can bounce THEM up and down. :)
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10-16-2009 20:39
From: Scylla Rhiadra
It's like equipping the male population of SL with X-Ray glasses. Which, I'm sure, will be the NEXT "Great Leap Forward." :rolleyes:

Hmm, all you would need is to use a skin from your inventory instead of the baked textures supplied by the server. Maybe turn off rendering attachments too. Cool. Thanks for the idea :p
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10-16-2009 20:43
From: Jig Chippewa
It's just another case of male chauvinsim raising its ugly pimply head, Scylla. Pay no attention to them. They'll all be bald in a few years time and they'll all look like di*kheads and maybe we can bounce THEM up and down. :)

Aw, you are just upset because your name is part of the mesh effect's name. :p

I want Bewbly Jigs! :)
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10-16-2009 20:44
From: Rhonda Huntress
Aw, you are just upset because your name is part of the mesh effect's name. :p

I want Bewbly Jigs! :)


There's no such thing as bad publicity.
I want residuals for use of my name :(

Dr. Jig Chippewa Ph.D. Hmmm :)
Lady Jig Chippewa
Dame Jig Chippewa :)
Jig Chippewa, M.P.
The Right Honourable Jig Chippewa

Bewbly Jig.
Humph!
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10-16-2009 20:45
From: Rhonda Huntress
Hmm, all you would need is to use a skin from your inventory instead of the baked textures supplied by the server. Maybe turn off rendering attachments too. Cool. Thanks for the idea :p

LOL

SL just became a little more dangerous . . . and a LOT weirder. :p
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10-16-2009 20:47
From: Conifer Dada
To be honest, the jiggling is only minor, so it's not really turning us all into adult content as it's only mimmicking what happens in real life.

The thing with this feature is, the settings you determine in your own viewer only apply to what YOU see. They're not controlling what others see like a shape setting would. You could have this feature turned off in your viewer, and at the same time someone else could be watching you flop like a crazy pornstar. One doesn't have to be using Emerald to have their bewbs jiggle for someone who is using it.. every woman jiggles (unless they're tiny up top) to someone viewing with Emerald. Many prim or sculpted outfits, like jackets with low cut prim collars or breast pockets, etc.. now look like crap because the boobs move through them.

BTW - I did finally get to see this effect. I wasn't able to ever see it on my AV when *viewing* from that AVs camera. It just never once worked no matter what setting I used. Found out at a club though that everyone ELSE was flopping nicely. I had to view myself with an alt to see it, and I have no idea why that is because others have said they see themselves jiggle. Is that viewing from their own camera? or through an alt or something?
The effect isn't really that minor though lol.. at the *wrong* settings those suckers jump and buck and follow you around like a shadow. Quite obvious :p

My settings for well-endowed 70-80% sized bewbs: 80,25,100,67,1,20
They seem to react naturally, and park themselves fairly fast with a little wiggle at the end. Definately not black-eye syndrome :rolleyes:
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10-16-2009 20:48
Jig™ly Bewbs are the best bewbs in SL! Don't wait. Order yours today!
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10-16-2009 20:49
From: Jig Chippewa
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
I want residuals for use of my name :(

Dr. Jig Chippewa Ph.D. Hmmm :)
Lady Jig Chippewa
Dame Jig Chippewa :)
Jig Chippewa, M.P.
The Right Honourable Jig Chippewa

Bewbly Jig.
Humph!


Legend Jig Chippewa.
The Ultimate Jig

Bewbly Jig.
:(
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10-16-2009 20:55
From: Jig Chippewa
It's just another case of male chauvinsim raising its ugly pimply head, Scylla. Pay no attention to them. They'll all be bald in a few years time and they'll all look like di*kheads and maybe we can bounce THEM up and down. :)

Yeah, I guess. Except that most of the excitement is coming from the women.

I get it, actually. I too think that carefully-controlled jiggles is a "good thing," in the way that hand gestures or a more detailed mesh would be a "good thing." The truth is that . . . well, breasts jiggle. To varying degrees. And, as I say, if it makes the experience of SL more plausible and "realistic," that's ok. Plus, I want a bit of jiggle. Who the hell wants to look like she's got two plastic cereal bowls taped to her chest?

It's just it's not a HUGE thing for me. (So to speak . . .)

Also, I don't like the implementation. I really do want some control over the jiggle factor. There are times when I want camisole-level jiggliness, and times when I might want sports bra-level jiggliness.

Really, you see, it's all about a woman's fundamental right to choose, and her right to have complete control over her own body, and . . . and . . .

Yeah, well . . . ;)
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10-16-2009 20:55
From: Jig Chippewa
Legend Jig Chippewa.
The Ultimate Jig

Bewbly Jig.
:(

Contessa Jig Lea Chippewa
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10-16-2009 21:04
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Also, I don't like the implementation. I really do want some control over the jiggle factor. There are times when I want camisole-level jiggliness, and times when I might want sports bra-level jiggliness.
It this were implemented by the platform, I could see where the mesh flex would just be another few numbers passed around and everyone would have control over how or if they moved. As it is now, it is just a client side hack. What the really big deal is how much can be done NOW with NO server side support. AO with no attachment point. Multiple attachments per point ot rather new attachment points. Infinite clothing layers is in the works (the menu item was included in this relese by mistake). Why has LL not included these yet?
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10-16-2009 21:10
From: Rhonda Huntress
It this were implemented by the platform, I could see where the mesh flex would just be another few numbers passed around and everyone would have control over how or if they moved. As it is now, it is just a client side hack. What the really big deal is how much can be done NOW with NO server side support. AO with no attachment point. Multiple attachments per point ot rather new attachment points. Infinite clothing layers is in the works (the menu item was included in this relese by mistake). Why has LL not included these yet?

Yeah, agreed. That's the problem, I guess. By definition, a third-party viewer like Emerald can push LL in the right direction by showing them up, but it can't change the platform. Hopefully, LL pays attention to the popularity of Emerald, and its features, and realizes that they'd better do them one better, or find the default viewer player becoming second fiddle.

And all of this from jiggly boobs . . . who'd have thunk it, eh? :p
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10-16-2009 22:03
What is the log-in screen for Emerald Viewer? An Adam Carolla avatar saying, "And now, girls jumping on trampolines!"
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10-16-2009 22:30
From: Rhonda Huntress
This is entirely client side. It is like me setting the lighting to mid-day. It only effects what I see. If I turn on boob wiggles you will notice nothing, nor would you be able to change my settings any more than you could change my windlight settings.



Actually, what I was concerned with was how prim based top pieces look with jiggling bubbies passing through them. I have to imagine, ghastly. More reason to never leave my workshop since I'm wearing something like that these days....I just want to know if I'm bouncing out of my top in the Emerald Viewer..

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10-16-2009 22:45
From: Jig Chippewa
Legend Jig Chippewa.
The Ultimate Jig

Bewbly Jig.
:(


I already trademarked both "myth" and "Legend". And both words in connection with the phrase "Not just a ........."
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10-16-2009 23:24
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Who the hell wants to look like she's got two plastic cereal bowls taped to her chest?

Madonna?

From: Scylla Rhiadra
Also, I don't like the implementation. I really do want some control over the jiggle factor. There are times when I want camisole-level jiggliness, and times when I might want sports bra-level jiggliness.

Agreed. It would be nice if this was picked up by LL and added to the shape definitions.. that way you would have some control over what bounces out of prim clothing and whatnot. Actually, I wouldn't be against a tiny bit of butt cheek wiggle either, but just like the boob thing now, it should be owner controllable.. not voyeur controllable.
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10-17-2009 00:03
and heres the beauty of it all....

These are things LL said couldn't be done. Yet here they are. and contrary to popular belief, yes the SOURCE code is opensource. The actual emerald code, which implements these changes ARE NOT. LL can't snag & use without permission.


Now for those that want a realistic effect... we played with the numbers (on various sizes) and this is what works best...

100
10
100
1
1
17


*grins* I approve the jigglies... and OMG... here's hoping those OBSCENE NASTY PRIM BOOBS DIE A SWIFT & HORRIBLE DEATH!

YAY!


~Brie
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