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Ian Nider

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05-12-2009 15:16

I used to go to a mIRC chat room a bit and I (and most of the people in the chat room) used to really hate people posing as the opposite gender. For me, it wasn't from a dislike of people experimenting or wanting to be a woman. It was the deceit, it was always so hidden and people were sexually and emotionally hurt. Romances of various levels happened for people and to me it was highly irresponsible to mislead someone in that way.

But here in SL is so different, it's not hidden, it's also accepted. I think that goes along way. My opinion on it has changed a lot from being here. I now basically don't care what the av is playing, also I trust that if I got close enough to someone (that it would matter to me) I could safely ask and they could safely answer truthfully.

Briana Dawson

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05-12-2009 19:19

Guys in Kilts are hot.

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Dana Hickman

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05-12-2009 19:57

From: Anya Ristow

You found a club with at least one live human? Impressive.

Yeah, lol... and then that "one live human" insulted me

I'm on a roll

Oryx Tempel

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05-12-2009 21:02

Holy necropost Batman. I sat there reading the first page, going "I don't know a single one of these people" when, LOL, I realized it was an old thread.

Carry on, carry on.

Snickers Snook

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05-12-2009 21:30

From: Oryx Tempel

Holy necropost Batman.

I sweah mathta, I tried putting a thtake through it'th heart but it justh won't diiiiiiiiiieee!!!!

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05-12-2009 23:03

From: Oryx Tempel

Holy necropost Batman. I sat there reading the first page, going "I don't know a single one of these people" when, LOL, I realized it was an old thread.

Carry on, carry on.

Ahhh.... I just read 3 pages before realizing.

2006!

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Ephraim Kappler

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05-13-2009 02:10

From: Lindal Kidd

Ephraim, and you others who so smugly think you can tell a person's RL gender from their av ...

Sorry, I missed that dig yesterday. In my defense I wouldn't say I'm smug about it but I guess that might come through in my choice of words. It's hard to strike a balance between making a fairly complex point in a post and not getting a bit wordy as Lexxi inferred.

I think it's fair to say that after coming to grips with the nuts and bolts of perception itself, differences of gender and sexuality tend to be the first aspects of life that we pick up on as infants when we focus on those all-important others, our parents. Playing with gender is a difficult act to pull off for that reason: we're all experts on some level or other and it's not something I mean to be smug about.

From: Lindal Kidd

And you know what? It doesn't matter. I could care less what sort of meat sack is behind the monitor. What matters is, what sort of person is this? Is she kind? Is he honest? SL is a wonderful place to get to know the REAL person, without all those pesky appearances to color judgement and get in the way.

It doesn't matter much to me neither. My cardinal rule is to never criticise another resident for their choices in SL: one of the main reasons I don't care for RL details is that I'm not interested in how closely an av may or may not reflect the account holder's true nature.

The av is a creative exercise.

What does matter is the disappointment of putting time and effort into engaging with someone only to find that disjunction between their RL and SL personalities is glaringly obvious. I sure wouldn't abuse them for it but it would be the last time I'd put myself in that situation with them.

Leaving aside issues of gender and sexuality, I can imagine that a 'giggle' from a werewolf would go down like a lead balloon and that's the very same bum effect I'm talking about.

Argent Stonecutter

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05-13-2009 02:23

From: Ephraim Kappler

Leaving aside issues of gender and sexuality, I can imagine that a 'giggle' from a werewolf would go down like a lead balloon and that's the very same bum effect I'm talking about.

Right, it's the were-hyenas that giggle. Werewolves howl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swC8f0quXEw

You think that's a laughing matter, buddy, do you?

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Clarissa Lowell

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05-13-2009 02:27

From: Lexxi Gynoid

(which was a part played by a man, pretending to be a woman, pretending to be a man;

Victor/Victoria!

At least they stole from the best.

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Ephraim Kappler

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05-13-2009 02:40

From: Argent Stonecutter

Right, it's the were-hyenas that giggle. Werewolves howl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swC8f0quXEw

You think that's a laughing matter, buddy, do you?

Were-hyenas?

Were-hyenas!?

I can't access YouTube. Is there an alternative link?

Argent Stonecutter

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05-13-2009 02:48

From: Ephraim Kappler

I can't access YouTube. Is there an alternative link?

No links for reprobates!

Oh, OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouda

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Ephraim Kappler

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05-13-2009 03:07

From: Argent Stonecutter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouda?

Jeepers. You're a mine of useful information this morning. Interesting how the grave-robbing ghoul aspect of lycanthropy has been played down in the West but it's very much to the fore with this werehyena thing.

I have to say, I've got a real soft spot for animals in general (which doesn't stop me eating the usual varieties) and wolves are real handsome creatures but I despise everything about hyenas from their appearance and behaviour through to that humpy, cowering gait.

How many get insulted when playing an alt of a different gender?
Ian Nider Seeds Join date: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,011	05-12-2009 15:16 I used to go to a mIRC chat room a bit and I (and most of the people in the chat room) used to really hate people posing as the opposite gender. For me, it wasn't from a dislike of people experimenting or wanting to be a woman. It was the deceit, it was always so hidden and people were sexually and emotionally hurt. Romances of various levels happened for people and to me it was highly irresponsible to mislead someone in that way. But here in SL is so different, it's not hidden, it's also accepted. I think that goes along way. My opinion on it has changed a lot from being here. I now basically don't care what the av is playing, also I trust that if I got close enough to someone (that it would matter to me) I could safely ask and they could safely answer truthfully.
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	05-12-2009 19:19 Guys in Kilts are hot. _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Dana Hickman Leather & Lace™ Join date: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,515	05-12-2009 19:57 From: Anya Ristow You found a club with at least one live human? Impressive. Yeah, lol... and then that "one live human" insulted me I'm on a roll
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	05-12-2009 21:02 Holy necropost Batman. I sat there reading the first page, going "I don't know a single one of these people" when, LOL, I realized it was an old thread. Carry on, carry on.
Snickers Snook Odd Princess - Trout 7.3 Join date: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 746	05-12-2009 21:30 From: Oryx Tempel Holy necropost Batman. I sweah mathta, I tried putting a thtake through it'th heart but it justh won't diiiiiiiiiieee!!!! _____________________ Buh-bye forums, it's been good ta know ya.
Isabeau Imako P'tite Poulette Join date: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,335	05-12-2009 23:03 From: Oryx Tempel Holy necropost Batman. I sat there reading the first page, going "I don't know a single one of these people" when, LOL, I realized it was an old thread. Carry on, carry on. Ahhh.... I just read 3 pages before realizing. 2006! _____________________ From: Macphisto Angelus Just remember what my dear Grammy always says: "F**k 'em!"
Ephraim Kappler Reprobate Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,946	05-13-2009 02:10 From: Lindal Kidd Ephraim, and you others who so smugly think you can tell a person's RL gender from their av ... Sorry, I missed that dig yesterday. In my defense I wouldn't say I'm smug about it but I guess that might come through in my choice of words. It's hard to strike a balance between making a fairly complex point in a post and not getting a bit wordy as Lexxi inferred. I think it's fair to say that after coming to grips with the nuts and bolts of perception itself, differences of gender and sexuality tend to be the first aspects of life that we pick up on as infants when we focus on those all-important others, our parents. Playing with gender is a difficult act to pull off for that reason: we're all experts on some level or other and it's not something I mean to be smug about. From: Lindal Kidd And you know what? It doesn't matter. I could care less what sort of meat sack is behind the monitor. What matters is, what sort of person is this? Is she kind? Is he honest? SL is a wonderful place to get to know the REAL person, without all those pesky appearances to color judgement and get in the way. It doesn't matter much to me neither. My cardinal rule is to never criticise another resident for their choices in SL: one of the main reasons I don't care for RL details is that I'm not interested in how closely an av may or may not reflect the account holder's true nature. The av is a creative exercise. What does matter is the disappointment of putting time and effort into engaging with someone only to find that disjunction between their RL and SL personalities is glaringly obvious. I sure wouldn't abuse them for it but it would be the last time I'd put myself in that situation with them. Leaving aside issues of gender and sexuality, I can imagine that a 'giggle' from a werewolf would go down like a lead balloon and that's the very same bum effect I'm talking about.
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	05-13-2009 02:23 From: Ephraim Kappler Leaving aside issues of gender and sexuality, I can imagine that a 'giggle' from a werewolf would go down like a lead balloon and that's the very same bum effect I'm talking about. Right, it's the were-hyenas that giggle. Werewolves howl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swC8f0quXEw You think that's a laughing matter, buddy, do you? _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Clarissa Lowell Gone. G'bye. Join date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,020	05-13-2009 02:27 From: Lexxi Gynoid (which was a part played by a man, pretending to be a woman, pretending to be a man; Victor/Victoria! At least they stole from the best. _____________________
Ephraim Kappler Reprobate Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,946	05-13-2009 02:40 From: Argent Stonecutter Right, it's the were-hyenas that giggle. Werewolves howl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swC8f0quXEw You think that's a laughing matter, buddy, do you? Were-hyenas? Were-hyenas!? I can't access YouTube. Is there an alternative link?
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	05-13-2009 02:48 From: Ephraim Kappler I can't access YouTube. Is there an alternative link? No links for reprobates! Oh, OK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouda _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Ephraim Kappler Reprobate Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,946	05-13-2009 03:07 From: Argent Stonecutter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouda? Jeepers. You're a mine of useful information this morning. Interesting how the grave-robbing ghoul aspect of lycanthropy has been played down in the West but it's very much to the fore with this werehyena thing. I have to say, I've got a real soft spot for animals in general (which doesn't stop me eating the usual varieties) and wolves are real handsome creatures but I despise everything about hyenas from their appearance and behaviour through to that humpy, cowering gait.

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