Everyone in SL should verify using Aristotle ;)

One flaw in the theory, we agree to LL to not let anyone else use our avatar, and so if the RL info and avatar info are not an accurate match we are claiming to be someone we are not.

Can still get sent up for fraud I imagine too especially if agreeing to the level of govt. authorisation. That's the part that makes me nervous despite being a mind P and Qs law abiding citizen all my life, I stlll don't want anyone looking over my shoulder and govt. inspection is for meat not for people.

Aristotle only asks that the information that you supplied is *TRUE* not that the information is *Yours*

So just make sure you enter true information and not made up information

See the SLapt.me wiki and the page entitled "SL Verification (Age & Payment) - Issues and Information" for further details and references to Aristotle.

LL says that all they get is a token to say you are verified and that the data you enter is not stored. They are happy and Aristotle is happy as you have followed the steps to the letter, you cannot be penalised for following the rules as both LL and Aristotle have laid down. If LL then go after anyone for not using their data then I think that will open another can of worms as LL state no data is stored so how would they know?

Just my thoughts

Hi LS

Yes I understood the OP and theory.

My point while not very clearly communicated, was that regardless, if that set of info is hooked knowingly to an avatar person A uses and the info given is for person B then in effect person A is going against LL TOS since they have set up the account for person B but are using it themselves (person A).

Also even if LL and Ari claim not to store data (cough, BS, cough at least it's clear Ari does or did, from past events like data ending up on the 'web) if the info is sent to a govt. and it DOES store it at least long enough to check it and fraud is found...well...loopholes dont mean a lot to Uncle Sam.

The risk ain't worth it, to me.

YMMV

Further to my note yesterday when I re read the above yes I agree I would much rather Aristotle remain in place for verification rather than perhaps a more strict method which you do have to supply your real life information.

At least with Aristotle you only have to supply *True* information not necessarily your own to stay within the rules as stated by them

I see what you are saying but I think the scenario is unlikely, but as always I will only present the facts, whatever people do with them it is a matter of personal choice.

I doubt LL would do anything as it could potentially open them up to Law suits from others as LL states clearly in several places, (I will have to collect the URLs for the wiki later) that none of this data is stored. If at a later date it has been found to be stored I would imagine people that have entered their Real data as did I, would have a case against LL especially those of us in the EU that recognizes that Aristotle does not comply to the Safe Harbour rules therefore is not a trusted entity to store our personal data. Although it can check and confirm us as verified if it does not store it.

Just my thoughts and i totally understand what you are saying as I would never encourage anyone to break the rules but use them as stated

See, I don't assume we'd know about it if our data was misused.

Til it was too late.

(ounce of prevention & all that)

I agree I am only bring the facts about the system as it stands now to peoples attention, informed choices and all that

If locks were 100% effective there would be no burglary or car theft... yet there is even with those wonderful magical locks that prevent entrance.

Door locks on a house: easily opened with a lock gun, good swift kick (or prybar), or bypassed by entering through a window (or in many cases by trying a remote for a garage door... the real pros use one that cycles through the various possible combos)

Cars, easily enough by smashing a window, coat hangar, jimmy strip...

There are plenty of tools and options for bypassing them to those that want to and are determined.

All locks are is a deterrent for all but those intent on getting past them by any means. Which is all data verification is as well, a deterrent that is set up to do the same...

Now a deadly cobra in your front seat is guaranteed to keep out car thieves, but makes it too dangerous for you to use the car. Much like a system that impedes or requires too much from users in order for them to access the service... resulting in the service (in this case SL ) going the way of the Dodo