A full account isnt worth paying for thats the long answer
the short answer: No
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Tristin Mikazuki
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02-06-2008 16:13
A full account isnt worth paying for thats the long answer
the short answer: No _____________________
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Snowflake Fairymeadow
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02-06-2008 19:40
The cost of a premium account drops to less than $20/yr if you sell the $L stipends that come with it.
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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02-06-2008 20:35
the arguement is that basic accounts don't get full support. while it's true, it's reality. deal with it. these socialist mentalities of expecting to be handed to you everything are so horrifying. just think... everything you get for free was not free FROM someone else. WHO do you think is coming up with the $$$ ?? Ummmmm...did you happen to see this? And just for the record: I am not in the least complaining about the level of service offered/not-offered to basic accounts. Totally agree with those who say either accept that or move on. Also agree with the viewpoint of whether one becomes a premium account or not depends largely on what one wishes to pursue in SL. As has already been pointed out, just because a person is a basic account holder doesn't mean they are not contributing to SL financially, creatively, economically, etc. I think you responded to my first post without reading my second. I am in total agreement with you re: the argument of basic accounts not getting full support._____________________
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Czari Zenovka
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02-06-2008 20:55
I always found 'fixed income' to be an interesting term. Aren't most of us on a 'fixed income'? My paycheck is the same every week - it does not vary, it is a Fixed amount. Yes, your paycheck may be the same every week, but hopefully at least yearly you are up for a pay increase. Also, you have the choice to find a job that pays more money than your current job. The term "fixed income" refers to those who rely on social security as their income. They don't get raises. They are not able to get a better paying job. _____________________
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LittleMe Jewell
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02-06-2008 21:22
Yes, your paycheck may be the same every week, but hopefully at least yearly you are up for a pay increase. Also, you have the choice to find a job that pays more money than your current job. The term "fixed income" refers to those who rely on social security as their income. They don't get raises. They are not able to get a better paying job. _____________________
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Bradley Bracken
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02-06-2008 21:33
I know what it is intended to mean - I just find it to be a rather inaccurate description of what it is trying to refer to. Additionally, I work for a local government that has managed to negate any normal yearly raises that we might normally get - and has done so for a couple of years now. However, yes, I do have the option of trying to find another job that will presumably pay me more money. I think that's the point of the name LittleMe. I don't use the term "fixed income" but I guess I fit the description. I'm on disability and unable to currently earn an income. The amount I receive is all it's going to be except for the 2% increase the US government gave Social Security this year. Because I can't get a job, have no opportunity for increases or promotions, etc. My income is fixed. Someone in the workforce may have a fixed income but typically there are opportunities for them to increase their income even if it means getting a second job. I think the term is pretty accurate. Certainly more accurate than the term "working class". I HATE that term. I had a very white collar job previously but I "worked" my ass off. _____________________
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3Ring Binder
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02-06-2008 22:23
Ummmmm...did you happen to see this? I think you responded to my first post without reading my second. I am in total agreement with you re: the argument of basic accounts not getting full support.i have not gone back to research which post was first or second, but i was responding to your comment that disabled and low income people rely on places like SL for entertainment, and that their income base is a factor... when i fact, regardless of status, anyone can play for free. while i feel a great deal of compassion for their plight, i did not see the relation to this discussion, and went on a tangent about politics. in my perception, you were expecting 'socialized gaming' which isn't relevent since it's a free game... your second posting seems to have nothing to do with my reply. i'm lost. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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02-07-2008 01:06
Resolved? After being here a few weeks away from 2 years and seeing all the stuff that goes on and is common in sl I just don't see the word resolved and Lindens being put together in the same sentence and it being practical to do so. Priority not given to many of the main things that break like tp and search as well as other stuff is common place here. Naturally things will break as they do everywhere but it seems when they break here and on those rare occasions they do repair them, for someone reason they don't stay fixed. Everyone here knows this to be true regardless who is bold enough to deny it. Don't even get me started cause this will be an awfully long post. I could go on and on but you get the picture if you've been here a while. Some how this word "Resolved" just doesn't look right in the same sentence as Lindens. The truth can not be hidden no matter how you want to slice it. think you didnt read my post carefully enough It says they claim things are resolved when they are not. The higher level of your service just the faster you will get to this point. -- Basically you will find out they wont help you faster. |
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Eazel Allen
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02-07-2008 04:31
You are 100% right Colette every time I have used support they either say there isnt a problem when there is and after a few days of telling them there is a problem they eventually listern to you or they reply when and say they have resolved the problem when they havnt.This has happened to me every time Ive used support over 1 year of being here .And then they remove full support from basic accounts and expect me to pay for a full account just to get support that is very poor anyway.I can afford a full account easily with money I make in the game but I cant find 1 good reason too have one.
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Colette Meiji
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02-07-2008 04:41
You are 100% right Colette every time I have used support they either say there isnt a problem when there is and after a few days of telling them there is a problem they eventually listern to you or they reply when and say they have resolved the problem when they havnt.This has happened to me every time Ive used support over 1 year of being here .And then they remove full support from basic accounts and expect me to pay for a full account just to get support that is very poor anyway.I can afford a full account easily with money I make in the game but I cant find 1 good reason too have one. the reason to have a full account is .. To be able to own Mainland. Why does there need to be any other reason? |
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Morwen Bunin
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02-07-2008 04:57
I can afford a full account easily with money I make in the game but I cant find 1 good reason too have one. Then don't? Seems enough others could find good reasons to do so. As me for example, I will return soon to a full account again... and I don't even make any money in game to pay it from. Morwen. |
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Kalderi Tomsen
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02-07-2008 05:10
And then they remove full support from basic accounts and expect me to pay for a full account just to get support that is very poor anyway.I can afford a full account easily with money I make in the game but I cant find 1 good reason too have one. It sounds like the reasons others have given in this thread don't make it worthwhile to you. Definitely your choice, and I don't think any one will think any the worse of you for being a basic member, as I have said before. _____________________
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Eazel Allen
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02-07-2008 05:10
the reason to have a full account is .. To be able to own Mainland. Why does there need to be any other reason? Paying for the right to give lindens more money eg: the tier costs on top of the full account costs just dosnt cut it for me. Renting mainland with a reputable landlord beats buying mainland everytime because it also gives you the option to easily move when someone opens a club next to you or starts griefing. Then you dont have to wait tell can find a buyer for your land you can just move straight away. And its cheaper I rent 4096m 937prims mainland 4500L$ a month ![]() _____________________
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Eazel Allen
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02-07-2008 05:15
Then it's quite simple - nobody is forcing you to, Eazel. If it's not worth the money for you, don't pay it. I don't either, because it won't give me anything that I need in SL. It sounds like the reasons others have given in this thread don't make it worthwhile to you. Definitely your choice, and I don't think any one will think any the worse of you for being a basic member, as I have said before. I do agree with you Kalderi but I am not trying to make a point just for me I would like to help improve things for everyone. _____________________
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Wulfric Chevalier
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02-07-2008 05:25
I do agree with you Kalderi but I am not trying to make a point just for me I would like to help improve things for everyone. Giving basic accounts access to the level of support I currently pay for would not improve things for me. It would place additional pressure on a support system that is already inadequate. It's simple, if you want better support LL expect you to pay for it. Can't see your problem with that. |
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Colette Meiji
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02-07-2008 05:26
Paying for the right to give lindens more money eg: the tier costs on top of the full account costs just dosnt cut it for me. Renting mainland with a reputable landlord beats buying mainland everytime because it also gives you the option to easily move when someone opens a club next to you or starts griefing. Then you dont have to wait tell can find a buyer for your land you can just move straight away. And its cheaper I rent 4096m 937prims mainland 4500L$ a month ![]() But it doesnt. You get 512 for the premium plan, and then tier goes from there. Since the land pricing isn't a flat rate per meter ANYWAY, I don't see the big deal. Sure its cheaper to go with a third party land lord. Great. Thats not the same thing though. |
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Colette Meiji
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02-07-2008 05:28
How much support does a typical webhost give to someone Not paying for any webhosting through them?
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Eazel Allen
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02-07-2008 05:34
How much support does a typical webhost give to someone Not paying for any webhosting through them? yes but free webhosts dont really benifit from giving support the lindens do because full accounts isnt the only way they get money.And not supporting someone thats paying them money threw classifieds and rent because eventually part of your rent goes to lindens just dosnt make sense. I already give lindens more money than just the cost of a full account without having a full account. You should recieve support from any company you pay money too it shouldnt matter how they get your money. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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02-07-2008 05:43
yes but free webhosts dont really benifit from giving support the lindens do because full accounts isnt the only way they get money.And not supporting someone thats paying them money threw classifieds and rent because eventually part of your rent goes to lindens just dosnt make sense. I already give lindens more money than just the cost of a full account without having a full account. You give the Lindens more? Hows that? |
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Wulfric Chevalier
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02-07-2008 05:48
You should recieve support from any company you pay money too it shouldnt matter how they get your money. You do receive support, it's just a lower level of support. However much you may pay in now, if you had a premium account you would pay more by the cost of the subscription, and one of the things that extra cost buys you is better support. |
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Eazel Allen
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02-07-2008 05:49
You give the Lindens more? Hows that? Rent do you think you pay rent and the landlord gets to keep it all without paying a tier. Classifieds last time I checked they wernt free. Im sure other people can think of a few more ways lindens recieve money from basic accounts. _____________________
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Morwen Bunin
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02-07-2008 05:58
Rent do you think you pay rent and the landlord gets to keep it all without paying a tier. Classifieds last time I checked they wernt free. Im sure other people can think of a few more ways lindens recieve money from basic accounts. That is... only when the landlord would not have his land if you would not rent it. Else it is the teir of the landlord, your full account subscription plus teir for the land. Morwen. |
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Colette Meiji
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02-07-2008 06:03
Rent do you think you pay rent and the landlord gets to keep it all without paying a tier. Classifieds last time I checked they wernt free. Im sure other people can think of a few more ways lindens recieve money from basic accounts. Well the landlord is indirect. the landlord pays them more than the cost of a premium account. Making a profit off you in the process. The landlord has correspondingly higher support available. Classifieds are a cost of doing business. You presumably make that back in sales. |
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Eazel Allen
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02-07-2008 06:22
The benefits is that the higher level customer you are: the faster the Lindens will tell you that your issue, which still exists, has been resolved. hey Colette what side are you actually on because its hard to tell from your posts LOL _____________________
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Kalderi Tomsen
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02-07-2008 07:51
You should recieve support from any company you pay money too it shouldnt matter how they get your money. Because this is what it sounds like you are advocating, here, Eazel. _____________________
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