Benifits of having a full account?

Perhaps it's semantics, perhaps it's something else. but the word "privilege" has emotive connotations and I think that's why some people use it.

I guess you could say that when I buy fries to go with my burger I enjoy the "privilege" of eating them. Most would say that it's a pretty inflated use of the word in that context though.

You paid a bit extra for a higher level of service... if it makes you feel better to think of "privileged" and not.. then hey, you're getting more bang for your buck than even LL envisaged..

Makes me feel better? I think you are the one who is projecting your own connotations into my very standard use of a very standard English word. My point was only that Premium does confer some extra stuff that Basic doesn't have, in exchange for the account fee. Maybe "extra stuff" will strike you as more neutral than "privilege," but I didn't mean anything non-neutral with my use of the word.

Well as I said, perhaps it's a cultural thing, perhaps semantics.. but my experience is that the use of the word "privilege" in the context of a $10 a month service isn't really a standard use of the word.. but that's just opinion I guess.

Given all of that then, can I ask what exactly about my post you disagreed with?

My point was as yours, that you get what you pay for.. so you pay extra and you get "extra stuff".

I simply don't think that along with the "extra stuff" should come the value added service of the moral or societal high ground..

as i said in both my post

im NOT talking about estate land i am talking about MAINLAND.

what is up with you tring to confuse people and promote such ignorance.

Are you being this ignorant on purpose? i clearly said in all my posts i was talking about mainland, not ESTATE RENTALS.

why do you attempt to spread so much misinformation and confuse people?

Nothing at all, save the things I highlighted and commented on in the first place. Not every post prompted by yours will necessarily be a disagreement with it!

The benefits is that the higher level customer you are:

the faster the Lindens will tell you that your issue, which still exists,

has been resolved.

Now where's the fun in that..?

I come on here, being as abnoxious as I know how.. and people are just nice to me.

When all I really want is a good, personally insulting and irrational argument

Idiot! (hope that makes you feel better)

FFS. I am talking about OWNERSHIP.

If we have to explain estate land "ownership" just about every week, what makes you think advising people to rent tier to own mainland is going to be any easier when the scams start? As far as I am concerned, you will just confuse people more about what ownership is if they have to rent tier from anyone.

A premium account gets you an extra-special feeling of martyrdom when SL breaks.

I only attacked those that answered in a small minded or self centered way.

Eg:the people that are happy with the system because it dosnt effect them.Forgeting that it effects there customers and friends and future full account owners.

They are of no help in this discussion. This disscussion is for people that want to improve the whole world not just there own little world.

And giving us some worthwhile reason for a full account would help.At the moment the main reason for a full account is just to get support because being able to buy mainland isnt a reason for most of us to buy a full account .All accounts should be supported remeber they are all potential customers and friends and having a basic account dosnt mean they wont bring lots of money and talent into the game also they are potential full account owners and lots are leaving before even considering a full account because of the poor support they have recieved so far .Full accounts should come with a bigger tier or some other decent ensentive because the system at the moment just dosnt make sense.

People who are happy with the current system are no help in a discussion of whats wrong with the current system?

Interesting.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Or give you a link to JIRA so you can find out for yourself it hasn't been fixed since last April.

I always found 'fixed income' to be an interesting term. Aren't most of us on a 'fixed income'? My paycheck is the same every week - it does not vary, it is a Fixed amount.

Just because you view the reasons given as not being worthwhile doesn't mean they are not valid reasons to the person paying the premium fee. Your definition of what makes Premium worth your dollars may not be, and does not have to be, the same as my reasons or anybody else's reasons. To say that someone is small minded because they have a diferent view than you seems very small minded to me.

What she said.

I reviewed the posts prior to my original one #20. I still feel you attacked people who didn't trash the idea of having a premium account.

fixed income is a nice way of saying "locked into a low income program"

Its all it ever was.

I.e. only people who agree with you are permitted to contribute to your discussion. Some discussion!



Then don't. If you don't like LL's policies, then you are doing the right thing by refusing them your custom and letting your complaints be known. But you are not doing the right thing by insulting and labeling people who do find LL's policies satisfactory. You are showing as little respect for the perspectives of others as you claim others are doing for yours!



See, how hard is it to express your opinion without belittling people who don't share it?

I think you make some very reasonable points. LL's policy isn't in line with those points at the moment. But it's not that far off from the policies of lots of technology companies that, for example, offer better customer service in exchange for the purchase of a service plan, or on-line services that give you access to additional content when you pay a subscription fee.

You may be right that LL's policies may be turning away people who have the potential to contribute to SL, but LL has to charge money for something, or it can't possibly exist. That's just a basic fact of business. It has determined that the money it can make from estate sales and mainland tier isn't enough, and that it needs also to have a premium tier of membership like countless other internet services do. So there is a rationale for the way it's doing things, even if you think it's wrong-headed.

As I said above, I find for myself that it's worth the membership price to own mainland. I can't afford to own my own estate sim, so if I weren't premium I'd have to rent space for my cafe from another owner. Under those circumstances my cafe could be yanked out from under me and forced to move with no notice. I really don't want that to happen. That's just one reason why I want to be a premium member, but it's enough of a reason to make it worth it for me.

For others, access to the higher level of support may make the fee worth it for them, just like buying the service contract on my computer was worth it for me. You clearly don't find the additional service worth the value. Okay. But that's really not a reason to lash out at people who weigh those values differently.

True - I just get irked at phrases that are not fully accurate and then sometimes feel this strange desire to point it out.

It has nothing to do with you havng a different view to me it is to do with people being happy with a system that dont make sense are of no use in a discussion thats trying to let lindens know there is somthing wrong here.If you are totally happy with the system why are you even bothering to argue here because dosnt concern you.All you are doing with your coments is harming others that would like a better reason to get a full account and would like better support on basic accounts so even thou I agree you have the right to post what you want.I have the right to counter those posts if they dont help the situation.And if you cant handle a harsh comment maybe you shouldnt post at all in a discussion.

Ohhh, then I totally misunderstood the purpose of your initial post, then. Perhaps others did too.

You asked: and people have done that.

You stated:That is your opinion, and others have contributed theirs. Some agree with you, some don't.

And then, after more opinion, you asked again: And again, people have provided their points of view on it.

Where, from that initial post, were we to divine the purpose of your discussion? And even if that were the purpose, people saying "as far as I am concerned I don't see that the issue you raised is a problem with SL" isn't being narrow-minded - it's having their own opinion and expressing it.

If you did not want this sort of discussion, it would have been better if you had framed it a little more precisely in your initial post.

Just sayin'

Can anyone ever be truly happy?

Can software & the systems behind it ever bring true happiness & 100% Guaranteed Stability?

I wonder if you're the type I've seen at restuarants that complain about the slightest thing in hopes of getting a free meal?

Resolved? After being here a few weeks away from 2 years and seeing all the stuff that goes on and is common in sl I just don't see the word resolved and Lindens being put together in the same sentence and it being practical to do so.

Priority not given to many of the main things that break like tp and search as well as other stuff is common place here. Naturally things will break as they do everywhere but it seems when they break here and on those rare occasions they do repair them, for someone reason they don't stay fixed. Everyone here knows this to be true regardless who is bold enough to deny it.

Don't even get me started cause this will be an awfully long post.

I could go on and on but you get the picture if you've been here a while. Some how this word "Resolved" just doesn't look right in the same sentence as Lindens. The truth can not be hidden no matter how you want to slice it.

Not interesting. It's more like very strange. But some people are easily satisfied.

Go figure!