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Benifits of having a full account?

Eazel Allen
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02-05-2008 04:31
Can anyone tell me the benifits of having a full account?.
It seems the lindens have realised there full account system makes no sense when you can rent cheaper than buying anywhere in sl now without a full account .So instead of fixing this and offering more land before you have to pay a tier or somthing sensible like that they use the blackmail tactic you dont buy a full account you dont get support LOL what idiot did they get to think that up secondlife must loose so many new players just because they cant get support and its new players that need the support more.
So can anyone give me any other good reason for a full account other than blackmail for support?

p.s we are loosing new players every day because of this system I have had several friends leave the game because they cannot get good support.
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Snowflake Fairymeadow
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02-05-2008 05:05
There are a lot of benefits to having a full account. For one, where do you think that cheaply rented land comes from? For another, if you buy the yearly account, it nearly pays for itself in stipends. And for a 3rd, you can buy cheaper than renting if you rent out your land to people who don't wish to buy a paid account;)


Actually most businesses operate this way. I am more likely to get good customer service at a store where I spend a lot of $. Try getting your cable company out to work on your dishTV, theyre not going to do it, however they will be more than happy to help you if you become a paying customer of theirs.

LL in this case is taking care of the hand that feeds it. I would NOT be a paying customer if I didn't get support from LL, but since the support team has been helpful to me I will continue to spend hundreds of $ with them each month in the form of tier.
FD Spark
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02-05-2008 05:11
While their is reputable land owners who rent their properties, they can at any time need to sell or remove you as resident.
There is few protections dealing with land owners as the middle man for home or business.
You're basically at their mercy.
This is less likely to happen if you pay your tier directly to Linden Lab providing you follow the TOS and pay every month.
Also you get a stipend which helps with uploads,etc.
You get more customer support services if you have a problem.
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02-05-2008 05:16
Owning Land. If you want to create your own personal environment, that's the best way. OK, someone could move in next door and build something horrible, but if you rent, the landlord can chuck you off your land in a split second if they want to.
Howard Sachs
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I second all above!
02-05-2008 05:28
Really, upgrading to Premium and paying it that one time a year is one of the best things you can do as a SL subscriber. I am in my second year as a Premium member, and I have absolutely no regrets about it. No financial worries in SL, my own little tier-free spot and enough time to make the annually fee back that I can use the stipend money for shopping and fun mostly. You can of course rent from reputable landlords and never be kicked out without at least a very good reason, but it still means a middle man between you and Linden Lab. If you own the property, you will never have such worries.
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02-05-2008 05:57
If you want to own mainland, it's worth it. Also supposedly you get a better level of support , I can't say, fortunately I've never had to avail myself of the support system. As others have said , a yearly membership seems to pay for itself in the end, I don't know I go month to month. I don't own mainland, but I consider my $9.95 a month an investment in the development of Sl, even if I would like to see more bang for my buck.
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Amaranthim Talon
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02-05-2008 06:11
As a side question to that- my main started out as a quarterly- how do i go ahead and pay a year for me (her)- I did do that for my alt :)


Lot's of benefits that i can see- as mentioned above- the individuality of the spaces you make and yours alone :)

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Ann Launay
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02-05-2008 06:30
From: Eazel Allen
they use the blackmail tactic you dont buy a full account you dont get support


I wish people would stop saying this. Basic accounts DO get support, they just get less of it. You can submit a ticket on several predetermined topics and everyone can use the billing phone numbers. Premium members have more support options, yes, but we also get less help than concierge customers...to some extent, you get what you pay for.
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Eazel Allen
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02-05-2008 06:31
Its funny that people with money always get self righteous about issues like this and forget completly this is effecting new players which would be potential customers so is effecting you too duh!.Just because all you above seem to have money to burn dosnt mean everyone does .Im just glad everyone in the real world dosnt think like you lot. Because you lot would have a world that only people that could afford it would get things like health care and support with housing and would let eveyone else die LOL.But I guess there is alot of selfish people in this game .
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Ceera Murakami
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02-05-2008 06:33
Let's see...

If you go Premium, the Lindens will generously pay you a stipend every week... which totals to less value than what you paid in. If all you cared about is the stipend, it's cheaper to buy L$ on the Lindex when you need them.

Um, well you can use more of their great support system! Oh, wait... it's not all that great a level of support even if you ARE a premium member...

You can own mainland property directly! Yeah! Build whatever you please, and no one can kick you off, except the Lindens if you don't pay your tier. But your neighbors can also build whatever THEY please, and you have absolutely NO recourse if your beautiful efforts on your own land are destroyed by the shooting gallery and war zone that someone else decided to install across the fence from your rose garden.

Well, you get a warm fuzzy feeling, knowing you're helping give LL more profits for the great product that they provide?

Or...

Well, bottom line is, if you think the Mainland is an OK place, and you're willing to live in that anarchy, then maybe being Premium is worth it. Maybe. But it's a pretty marginal call.

I have no Premium accounts.

I own 1/4 of a sim on a peaceful, off-the-map non-public sim, and I pay only the maintenance fees. No up front land purchase cost.

If I wanted to spend the bucks, I could still buy my own sim, and become a landlord. Yes, a non-Premium member can buy whole sims. And I would have all the benefits of directly owning my land, beholden only to LL. But WITHOUT any possibility at all of other land owners doing things I don't condone just beyond my borders. Because they generally CAN'T put a new sim right next door to mine, without my permission. And even if they do, at worst I can have LL move my sim. Try doing THAT on the mainland!
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Eazel Allen
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02-05-2008 06:34
From: Ann Launay
I wish people would stop saying this. Basic accounts DO get support, they just get less of it. You can submit a ticket on several predetermined topics and everyone can use the billing phone numbers. Premium members have more support options, yes, but we also get less help than concierge customers...to some extent, you get what you pay for.


LOL yes you can get support on anything that relates to lindens taken money out of your pocket like not being able too buy lindens there not totally stupid but if it isnt to do with lining lindens pockets support is nearly 0 for basic accounts
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02-05-2008 06:37
Kinda funny he thinks all the Premium Members have $$ to burn?


Even a paperboy could easily come up with $72/year!
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2k Suisei
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02-05-2008 06:39
The best thing about having a full account is that you're allowed to complain when SL breaks.

I miss my full account :(
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02-05-2008 06:39
i have a premium account, and haven't paid a dime from my own pocket for it, or the land, or the tier.

as far as affording premium, maybe it's more about your efforts than expecting everything to be handed to you.

as far as support from LL... they should support all, or none. your insight on that is spot on. BUT!..... that's not the way it is, so the best advice i can offer you is to 'deal with it' or move on.

best.
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Eazel Allen
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02-05-2008 06:41
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Kinda funny he thinks all the Premium Members have $$ to burn?


Even a paperboy could easily come up with $72/year!


LOL so your saying a paper boy can afford too actually burn his money I think you dont understand what the term money to burn means.

The term money to burn for anyone else out there that dosnt understand means having money and being able to afford to throw it away.
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FD Spark
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02-05-2008 06:47
I don't get this why can island owners buy islands directly from LL and don't have to be premium?
Or am I wrong?
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02-05-2008 06:52
From: Eazel Allen
LOL so your saying a paper boy can afford too actually burn his money I think you dont understand what the term money to burn means.

The term money to burn for anyone else out there that dosnt understand means having money and being able to afford to throw it away.

you can EARN IT here so you can SPEND IT here! you just have to be willing to put in a little research and effort.
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02-05-2008 06:53
i think to "BUY" land, you must be premium.

when you are the 2nd owner of an island estate, you don't really "buy" the land, you lease it from the first owner, who IS premium.
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02-05-2008 06:55
From: 2k Suisei
The best thing about having a full account is that you're allowed to complain when SL breaks.

I miss my full account :(




I would call that a complaint right there....and nobody stopped you....adn we all heard you.


do we care?

yes, thats why we're here , reading this forum.

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Damien1 Thorne
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02-05-2008 06:57
It seems as though your mind was made up before you started this thread, so what is the point of it?
Ceera Murakami
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02-05-2008 06:59
From: FD Spark
I don't get this why can island owners buy islands directly from LL and don't have to be premium?
Or am I wrong?
You do NOT have to be Premium to purchase your own private sim from LL. I have that direct from the Concierge, and it is in the handbook for new sim owners. You only need to be Premium to buy mainland.
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02-05-2008 07:01
thank you Ceera. good to know.

i was wrong above. please ignore (that is, if you weren't already LOL)
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Eazel Allen
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02-05-2008 07:07
From: Damien1 Thorne
It seems as though your mind was made up before you started this thread, so what is the point of it?


The point of it is to get other peoples opinions but I wasnt especting so many answers from selfish small minded people I must admit.
eg: people that think just because it dosnt effect them directly that it dosnt effect them at all forgeting there are basicly saying sod everyone else im ok.

but oh isnt everyone else my potential customers or maybe a potential friend.
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02-05-2008 07:13
From: Eazel Allen
The point of it is to get other peoples opinions but I wasnt especting so many answers from selfish small minded people I must admit.
eg: people that think just because it dosnt effect them directly that it dosnt effect them at all forgeting there are basicly saying sod everyone else im ok.

but oh isnt everyone else my potential customers or maybe a potential friend.

you are wrong Eazel. there are a bunch of posters here who are basic. they get help HERE if they can't get it through LL.

and you are the one who was whining about not having "money to burn" in SL. you blame others for being closed minded, but in effect you are acting the same exact way, just from a jealous standpoint instead of a secure one.

the bottom line is, LL does not give full support to basic accounts. you are right, it sucks. complaining is valid, and coming here for support is valid. and welcomed.

as far as LL support... the fact is, it is what it is. we can't change it. you can't change it. LL won't change it.

you have two options. deal with it, or move on.

i hope this helps.
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Eazel Allen
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02-05-2008 07:19
From: 3Ring Binder
you are wrong Eazel. there are a bunch of posters here who are basic. they get help HERE if they can't get it through LL.

and you are the one who was whining about not having "money to burn" in SL. you blame others for being closed minded, but in effect you are acting the same exact way, just from a jealous standpoint instead of a secure one.

the bottom line is, LL does not give full support to basic accounts. you are right, it sucks. complaining is valid, and coming here for support is valid. and welcomed.

as far as LL support... the fact is, it is what it is. we can't change it. you can't change it. LL won't change it.

you have two options. deal with it, or move on.

i hope this helps.


Actually I am trying to help others like my friends that have now left the game I personaly can afford a full account as I always have 30000l$ in account from sales each month after paying for rent on my land .But I dont see why I should have to pay for a full account just for maybe 1 or 2 support request a year.
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