Are we human? Or, are we griefer?

Good luck with your decision; I hope you find a solution that you are comfortable with. In the meantime, I would ignore the barking of internet terriers, either on their blogs or in their forum posts, as they are simply trying to make noise and gain attention.

Immy, I believe the parcel owner did not see your presence there the same way you did.
Well, I guess racists groups have the right to be racists - but I believe your membership with their group shows you condone that activity.

But if you can overlook the two years of greifing Woodbury University Group has done surely you can overlook anything The Blogger wrote about you.

I'm half ready to do so... In fact, that's been the most common advice so far. In fact, I already planned to make my OP post the last fully public statement about the situation. In addition, I may as well stop responding here as well and simply go on with my SL and deal with whatever comes my way. (^_^)y

Consider the source.

The only person who's spoken out in support of Prok's accusations is one who has been repeatedly caught making false accusations, was involved in manufacturing evidence, and has attacked RL groups she disapproves of.

She Who Must Not Be Named isn't worth the trouble, and doesn't deserve any satisfaction that might be derived from influencing people's actions. And I think her reputation is such that her opinions in a manufactured drama-fest like this don't carry much weight anyway. Some people will believe her and some will just want to hop on board the Drama Train, but I believe the people who matter mostly know better.

Good luck weathering the storm Immy; I predict it will be short-lived and ultimately inconsequential.

I always find it funny, how commie-phobists like "that" blogger acuse others of racism.
Granted, communism doesn't work, but that's not because the system is bad, but because the people are bad. Same reason why democracy and republics will eventually fall over.
But as soon as someone says something he/she/IT doesn't like, there will be a load of commie/racist//b//whatever accusations, just depending on which are the flavors of the day, to pretend to have a case for the more ignorant audience that might stumble upon the nonsense presented. "Proof" all to be presented by a couple of conveniently "objective" alts of course. And that claims to be an awesome reporter too, *lol*.

Immy, I'll just repeat it: ignore it all. Do NOT worry about how one group you're in might reflect pon another you're in. If you're genuinly worried, there's always the option to hide groups at least in your profile. But the minute you do that, you'll also recognize how pointless it is to let others influence you with nonsense that YOU know to be untrue.

If there are any griefers in a group like WU, then you can count on it that there's more griefers in groups that are smart enough not to show so publicly. There are probably at least as many griefers in the avarage customer support group anyway.
The only reason for said blogger to target a certain hand full of groups, is because they're remotely linked to a certain land owner that he/she/IT is trying to buy/drive/push/grief out of a sim for ages already.

Sorry Scylla, sometimes (only very occasionally) I post straight from the heart.

I like Immy's attitude and support her disrespect for political correctness and unthinking inclusion; and the fact she DOES think before she acts and writes.

Pep (you don't have to like what she does, but she shouldn't be criticised for things she hasn't done!)

PS My son asked me if it was fair to be punished for something he hadn't done, so I agreed it wasn't. Then he told me he hadn't done his homework.

/me writes this down.
I agree with Pep. There goes his reputation.........or mine one.

The source is google. Just search 'Woddbury Univeristy' and the deletion of their island information is right there for all to see.
You cannot make Woodbury University a good thing by convincing folks the person that pointed out their racist greifing habits is bad. But you can try.

And you can't convince people of your truth by sheer repetition and snipes.

Immy knows of the extent of her involvement with WU more than anyone else, and the blogger's credibility has been shredded by its habit of making wild accusations. The public past history of WU doesn't address its current actions or Immy's responsibility to NCI with regard to WU. Only she can decide that, and constant references to griefers and racists probably will do little to inform her decision at this point.

I searched for 'Woddbury Univeristy' using Google and I didn't find anything.

Pep (If you are going to keep on posting nonsense on the subject of griefing, PLEASE can you spell it correctly? )

Lias, continually harping on about simplistic ideas like "Woodbury University is not all sunlight and flowers" when nobody has argued otherwise just reinforces your reputation as a disingenuous and intolerant troll. Same thing happened when you went running with the novel idea that "sexual ageplay is a bad thing" and pretended people were arguing the point with you. It's annoying and dishonest, please stop it.

Make a public denouncement of WU and leave their group never to return.






























...then log in your alt.

Might be more Immy's style to streak Bear Sim.

The blogger did not acuse Immy of racism. Linden Lab accused the members of Woodbury University of racism.
'If". Sheesh.
But miraculously none of them post in two forums and two blogs about it either.
She did not 'target' the griefer Group Woodbury University - they targeted her parcel. She did not go undercover in their group to 'out' them. She was sitting on her property and they greifed her three times.

huh? Sunlight and flowers. Talk about simplistic. You stop it.

I am amazed someone that admits to being a member of a group Linden Lab says has engaged in 'incidents of grid attacks, racism and intolerance, persistent harassment of other residents, and crashing the Woodbury University region itself while testing their abusive scripts' would publicly complain about being banned because of her affiliation with that group.

That's your forum job - Language Police. Keep working.

Immy, You know I like you and think your cute, so you know this is not coming from the anti-Immy brigade............

First off, I do not give a damned what Lias or Prok(And I am damn sure not afraid to say the name) have to say about anything. I've been on the receiving end of one of Prok's attacks and it bothered for all of about 15 seconds. Now that that disclaimer is out of the way........

Leave WU and distance yourself from 7chan. It's no different then being part of a group in RL and then finding a sizable number are racist skinheads. It's just not part of anything you want to associate with. Have friends in the group? Form a new group or join another group that they can join.

I actually still own a /cake/ group and currently use it to manage my store's land. I closed it off because I wasn't online long enough to catch and ban anyone trying to use it as a hook up group. (>_<

You're blaming Immy for more than mere membership in a dodgy group.

I know people who are in 4chan and WHat and who were associated with Voted 5. I often wear an avatar created by a V5 member. I don't believe in guilt by association.

But you should know that, given previous occasions where you've tried to smear someone by association and I knocked you back.

I was present at the so called *griefing*...where Immy was ejected.... that chat log is available archived in the mentioned womans blog...actually I was chatting withy Immy when she was summarily booted..THERE WAS NO GREIFING...please make at least an attempt to use a fact!

I have an off-the-wall suggestion, Immy.

Someday, LL or some RL university consortium is going to call up the actual Woodbury University AGAIN, and point out that their sim and the group that bears the same name is making a bad name for all universities. At that point the WU group will be shut down, and the sim closed to all but those on a tightly administered admit list. Voila, you lose your *chan inworld connection. You know it has to happen.

Plan ahead. You say you are in the WU group for the *chan connection: wacky chat, edgy video, anime, funky gestures, lalala. All pure as the driven snow. Cool, then create a new *chan connection group, just like you created a group for NCI. Invite the more upstanding members of WU, and let griefers -- I'm sure you more or less know who they are --- go their own way.

Just a thought.

edit: oic jesse already made this suggestion. well, hey, i'm not retyping it
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brinda you may want to follow the forum post here a little more closely. Immy said the three times she was banned from the parcel in question she was not with the WU.

But the WU greifed that parcel during discussions on at least three occasions. So the parcel owner - upon seeing yet another member of this group there - just pulled the trigger. And it happen to be Immy. It is an understandable response to continued harassment. Immy mentioned in her OP that she knew about the relationship between the blogger and WU - so she should nto be so surprised and outraged.

People say "griefing" when referring to things like particle spam, disturbing images, trolling and namecalling, which we must understand for many is just having a good time

A good time that, when unleashed repeatedly on a residential or commercial sim, will chase renters out and thus lose income for the sim owner.

Sandboxes ... hey, they're fair game, I suppose. It's still annoying for those who are not having this "good time", but instead are trying to actually DO something.