This bugs me alot
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Colette Meiji
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01-09-2008 10:29
From: Serenarra Trilling OP, you have really exposed yourself as someone I would never hang out with in SL.
I still wear the newbie skin. I've used the sliders to adjust my shape the way I want it.That was good enough for me. Even if I had a L$2000 shape, why should it make any difference to you?
If I am unacceptable to you because I don't look like YOU think I should look, then you are unacceptable to me as a decent person.
Caring more about how someone looks than how they act is the ultimate in snobbery to me. Just a tangent. I thought I had helped make $2000L shapes go the way of the Do Do , Even Blake eventually lowered his prices. The fact that people were selling their non mod shapes for $2000L is one reason why I went into business in the first place.
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Xal Dryke
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01-09-2008 10:32
From: Starling Cazalet Everyone seems to be getting a bit touchy in here, maybe we all need our sl fix, hurry up LL /me shrugs, ... "It's maitnenance day".
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Isabeau Imako
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01-09-2008 10:43
Starling, I really don't think you are trying to offend anyone. You're right that you should be able to ask questions out of curiosity without being attacked. I just don't think you realize that you're being offensive yourself... look through all your posts with an objective eye. Try to put yourself in the place of the reader. If people have been quoting you (personal) it is only because you are the OP. Ex: From: Starling Cazalet actually you can get very good skins for no money at all you just have to look and i try to help ppl find those skins so it is not price its either ignorance or stubborn attitude If people don't think as you do, they are ignorant or are being stubborn. You do seem like you want to help, but you're reading too much into why someone may not want it. You didn't simply want to know why people still wore their 'newbie' skin, you needed to tell everyone how ugly you thought they looked. That is the difference between being curious - wanting to learn about another point of view - and being judgemental. This is probably why you might be getting a few snarky remarks... In your defense, I really do think you're trying to help in your own way.
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 10:51
From: Hiro Queso Perhaps you need to reread your opening post then. This thread was not meant to be attacking anyone it is a game after all, I just did it out of curiosity sake Hey I understand people want to stick to their original form because they think they can get by with it but if these noobs want jobs say in clubs they can't have those looks and then they go to camping which just is a waste in itself, but that is LL fault for not making lindins more accessible to people with no credit cards. All i wanted to know was why people like those looks so much to me they are awful and i personally cant fuck a guy who looks like that doesnt make me shallow just a preference, its visual stimulation and that is not something that is going to make me enjoy sl sex. Yes i realize that its a PREFERENCE to look noob but people wake up, the noob look is terrible looking, im not attracted to it but maybe some people are, but if people want to stay noob then let them, I just can't appreciate when someone doesnt make an effort
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Thanks Trout
01-09-2008 10:52
From: Trout Recreant So you were giving her what she wanted and when you asked for what you wanted she got offended and muted you? I don't know. Men tend to be more visually stimulated than women, and that doesn't make us shallow, it just makes us men. If that's what you wanted, I don't see why that makes you shallow. If that's ALL you wanted, then maybe. It seems to me that part of a relationship is being able to deal with the other person offending you. You can't go through any sort of relationship for any length of time without doing something stupid, overstepping a boundary or otherwise messing up and it isn't reasonable to expect perfection in a partner. It's also about giving the other person what they want sometimes, especially if they are accomodating your needs.
Maybe your approach was bad, but flipping out and muting you was out of line.
BTW - blue, silver, green, red, etc - all can be very sexy. I agree with Okiphia and Madhu. Being a guy (Yes...I am a guy in RL as well as SL) who dreams in color, paints in oil color, renders my original 3D designs in Vue and Bryce, uses Photoshop almost daily...the list of art related things I do goes on and on...I am probably an EXTREEMLY visual person compared to most people... However, I am learning not to base my relationships with other people based on my orientation visually...I would be limiting my universe drastically if I did. The fact that I am also visually impaired and may be blind by the time I hit a ripe old age has not escaped my attention. Think of it this way, if your sight were removed from you in a day, what would the entire visual stimulus mean any more, any way? sure you would miss being able to see, but I think that the mental images you would get just form hearing the sound of someone’s voice could be just as vivid as if you were still able to see. Let us at least humbly appreciate what we have while we have it. And treat each other with honor and respect. I consider my self a lover, if I truly loved, I would never, never, never do anything intentional to hurt someone I loved. And it would not matter to me what they looked like...if I truly loved them. I am a recovering Shallow Hal. And Trout, if you knew the details of how I presented her with the skin upgrade, you would be telling me different, but thanks for those kind words. She did the right thing.
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 10:56
I know all you people think your do gooders by defending the noobs but bottom line is you know looks are important to you in rl and in sl so don't act all high and mighty, your not all perfect either, so get over yourselves
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Okiphia Anatine
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01-09-2008 10:58
From: Starling Cazalet I know all you people think your do gooders by defending the noobs but bottom line is you know looks are important to you in rl and in sl so don't act all high and mighty, your not all perfect either, so get over yourselves FOr me personally, looks quite truly don't matter in either life. Only thing I care about is weight, since being too overweight is unhealthy, and well.. thats not safe. Don't assume you know how everyone is, please. And please stop taking your own thread replies so personally, you kinda started it hon.
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Isabeau Imako
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01-09-2008 10:59
From: Starling Cazalet This thread was not meant to be attacking anyone it is a game after all, I just did it out of curiosity sake Hey I understand people want to stick to their original form because they think they can get by with it but if these noobs want jobs say in clubs they can't have those looks and then they go to camping which just is a waste in itself, but that is LL fault for not making lindins more accessible to people with no credit cards. All i wanted to know was why people like those looks so much to me they are awful and i personally cant fuck a guy who looks like that doesnt make me shallow just a preference, its visual stimulation and that is not something that is going to make me enjoy sl sex. Yes i realize that its a PREFERENCE to look noob but people wake up, the noob look is terrible looking, im not attracted to it but maybe some people are, but if people want to stay noob then let them, I just can't appreciate when someone doesnt make an effort Okay, now we get to the question you were really asking. "Why aren't there more Fuckably Cute guys out there? I want to fuck them, but they are too ugly - not up to my visual standards. Why do they insist on staying ugly?" Sorry, I misunderstood your original question totally. I don't know the answer to that one, I'm a girl.
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 11:00
oh I started it by people getting offended over my opinion and i know looks do mean something to people whether they want to admit it or not, would you date a guy with warts all over his face and a hump probably not, unlikely but probably not
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Elinah Iredell
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01-09-2008 11:01
I dont mind bad spelling and grammer as long as I can understand their point. I cant type and unless I take a moment to think about it dont spell very well ( If I think about it I can though lol ) . If I get into what I write and type very quickly as the words tumble out of my mind and I want to type them as soon as I think them it can look bad ... but my point still is there. Yes you can get on my case about it but no reason to say there is no intellect, that is just rude .
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Colette Meiji
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01-09-2008 11:01
From: Starling Cazalet I know all you people think your do gooders by defending the noobs but bottom line is you know looks are important to you in rl and in sl so don't act all high and mighty, your not all perfect either, so get over yourselves hehe You have a point. Id said the majority of people in SL DO look at how someone looks. Most of my custom work comes from people trying to "fix" their friend's appearance. Basically someone with an awesome personality that doesn't look so good. People should look how they want in SL, but many times the way they appear is because they don't know how to achieve the look they'd really like to have. Of course no one should be judging someone's worth on appearance. But that doesn't you cant notice how they look.
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Hiro Queso
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01-09-2008 11:02
From: Starling Cazalet I know all you people think your do gooders by defending the noobs but bottom line is you know looks are important to you in rl and in sl so don't act all high and mighty, your not all perfect either, so get over yourselves I couldn't give a flying f*ck what someone's avatar looks like; I'm only interested in what people have to say, and what people are capable of creating. The only time I really show any interest in the way an avatar looks is when it is something different, original, and very creative. You have already taken a couple of analogies made in this thread as personal attacks. It's clear to me that they weren't supposed to be, they were instead supposed to make a point, and if you can't see that, well I'm not sure what else to say to you except: happy SL when it finally opens!
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 11:04
and im not saying i want a chiseled guy or anything looks are not that important to me but a person no matter what has to have some physical attractiveness to them or im nto attracted that is all im saying, so everyone stop gettign so huffy and drink your coffee
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Elora Lunasea
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01-09-2008 11:04
From: Starling Cazalet oh I started it by people getting offended over my opinion and i know looks do mean something to people whether they want to admit it or not, would you date a guy with warts all over his face and a hump probably not, unlikely but probably not Hon, you may already have dated that person here.
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Colette Meiji
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01-09-2008 11:05
From: Isabeau Imako Okay, now we get to the question you were really asking. "Why aren't there more Fuckably Cute guys out there? I want to fuck them, but they are too ugly - not up to my visual standards. Why do they insist on staying ugly?" Sorry, I misunderstood your original question totally. I don't know the answer to that one, I'm a girl. ROFL
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Colette Meiji
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01-09-2008 11:06
I don't think the really scary looking people have default skins anyhow.
The scary looking ones obviously spent a lot of money to look that way.
People need to stop telling their friends they look hot, when they don't.
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 11:09
Thank you Colette, at least someone sees my side without attacking me
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Not sure what you are saying but.....
01-09-2008 11:25
I am by far a do-gooder...You may not know much about me, but a do-gooder I am not...I am the kind of guy your mother warned you about. From: Starling Cazalet oh I started it by people getting offended over my opinion and i know looks do mean something to people whether they want to admit it or not, would you date a guy with warts all over his face and a hump probably not, unlikely but probably not So Basically Starling you are looking for a good looking guy? Well look no further, but expect me to give you the critical eye as well, after all I AM visually oriented. I am not however an easy F**K. I also expect thoughtful dialogue, occasional gifts, a little personal freedom, no collars. And of course, kind words from time to time. I will not work in a club as a Chippendale dancer, but I have been known to give private performances to a woman who catches my ‘eye’. Who knows...we are both shallow and probably deserve each other. On the other hand...I am a lot more complex than that...I have yet to meet the woman who is interested in my mind here in SL (Claire is the only exception). For that matter, in RL I am hard pressed to count on one finger the women who are interested in my mind....rather frustrating if you know what I mean. I am not far off when I say that everyone longs to be accepted for who they are, and SL is an extension of RL (or at least we carry it in here with us whether intentional or not)
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Okiphia Anatine
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01-09-2008 11:28
From: Starling Cazalet oh I started it by people getting offended over my opinion and i know looks do mean something to people whether they want to admit it or not, would you date a guy with warts all over his face and a hump probably not, unlikely but probably not I'd date him if it wasn't a contagious illness... I'm sorry, but I'm not risking my health for a kiss unless I'm damn well in love! Oh.. and he has to be a cool guy
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 11:34
ya and im sure you will make some girl happy, but im not shallow, everyone has my post all wrong it was meant for curiosity sake you guys just blew it out of proportion, looks are important and i state this again since you guys seems to just pick and choose what you read, I have my own attraction and if people get all huffy because im not going gaga over a noob doesnt make me any less a person then say the next guy, I like what i like you like what you like so deal or leave the forum.
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Okiphia Anatine
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01-09-2008 11:36
From: Starling Cazalet ya and im sure you will make some girl happy, but im not shallow, everyone has my post all wrong it was meant for curiosity sake you guys just blew it out of proportion, looks are important and i state this again since you guys seems to just pick and choose what you read, I have my own attraction and if people get all huffy because im not going gaga over a noob doesnt make me any less a person then say the next guy, I like what i like you like what you like so deal or leave the forum. ...i have more options than that... i could just keep arguing and never leave  Anyway have fun.. I think I'm done with this thread now.. sorting out sentences without capitals is starting to hurt my eyes. Byebye
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Wildefire Walcott
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01-09-2008 11:37
Wow, Friday came early this week!!!
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 11:43
Just people who haven't had enough coffee yet so they are all on edge and again for you people who dont quite get it, stop the personal attacks this is about sl not me as a person or how I type so back off or take a nap, you all need it.
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Starling Cazalet
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01-09-2008 11:44
ah fuck this, i have had enough of you people
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Shep Planer
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01-09-2008 11:48
From: Starling Cazalet Why is it you see people in these noob skins ( im talking about the yellow ones the default ones you start with) and they think they look good, those skins look awful to me I dont see how anyone could be attracted to them. I really hope im not the only one who feels that way but if your going to play in sl at least try to make an effort, its not a money issue becuase you can get half decent skins as freebies, so why the noob look. Just for curiosity sakes so no one bite my head off ok? be nice No offense but how come theres people like you who place so much emphasis on being attractive? I find that really odd. Personally I dont give a rats what people think of my avatars looks, if you dont like my non-photoshopped skin well seeya, go take a walk love. I dont want a partner in SL and never will, I find the whole idea ridiculous especially when you get these people who are dumped constantly and then whinge about how they were wronged. I just think "Jesus will ya get a life, a real one" Has it ever crossed your mind that not every one wants to look like Ken or Barbie? Some people dont even want to look human! Ps- Where are these half decent freebie skins? I havent seen them and Ive been doing SL since March 07.
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