Do the majority of Americans even have High Speed connections good enough to run Second Life yet?
Plenty of my family still uses dial up even.
Plenty of my family still uses dial up even.
I thought dialup was illegal?

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JessyAnne Theas
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10-25-2007 12:54
Do the majority of Americans even have High Speed connections good enough to run Second Life yet? Plenty of my family still uses dial up even. I thought dialup was illegal? ![]() _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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10-25-2007 12:58
I thought dialup was illegal? ![]() Only in the District of Columbia, the US Virgin Islands and Guam. |
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Nika Talaj
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10-25-2007 13:00
Do the majority of Americans even have High Speed connections good enough to run Second Life yet? Plenty of my family still uses dial up even. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2102304,00.html |
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Broccoli Curry
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10-25-2007 13:01
I wonder what the Star Trek sim will be like. Sounds interesting.. A lot better than the CSI one, I hope... Broccoli _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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10-25-2007 13:01
According to the Guardian last June, just under 53% of US households have broadband. This ranks it 24th in the world in % penetration. South Korea is highest, at nearly 90%. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,2102304,00.html wow I wouldnt even have thought 53% of houses had an operational computer. |
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Slaton Ewing
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10-25-2007 13:04
Over 50,000 on now. Seems a bit high.
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Bodhisatva Paperclip
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10-25-2007 13:06
wow I wouldnt even have thought 53% of houses had an operational computer. I agree. And this number sounds suspiciously close to a statistic I read just the other day regarding households _with internet access_ that have broadband. The story concerned the bloat in web pages limiting access for dial-up users. |
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Har Fairweather
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10-25-2007 13:07
If the corporates have any sense, they will license current users of their trademarks in SL for free, like Coca-Cola did, or for a nominal sum like L$1, and get all that free advertising and goodwill. If they are stupid...
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Colette Meiji
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10-25-2007 13:09
I agree. And this number sounds suspiciously close to a statistic I read just the other day regarding households _with internet access_ that have broadband. The story concerned the bloat in web pages limiting access for dial-up users. That sounds more realistic. But they claim 60 million households. Of course they could be data manipulating that. "53% of those who have internet access multiplied by the number of households in the US = 60 million" Basically assuming that EVERYONE in the US has internet access of some kind. Just seems .. off. I know plenty of people who don't even own computers. ------------------- http://itrain.org/itinfo/almost_twothirds_of_us_homes_have_an_online_computer.php This page would suggest its only 53% broadband of 55% Internet at all, so its quite possible that is what they did. That would yield around 30 million Broadband households with an indeterminate number who have computers that run SL. It seems that 2 million number tossed around of potential sign-ups was really unrealisitc, since its possible that only around 1/4 of the audience could even play SL if they wanted to. |
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Avion Raymaker
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10-25-2007 13:11
I immensely enjoyed that show, not going in expecting anything artistic, and not ever having watched CSI before. I feel silly, but I got all tingly every time they used an SL phrase or explained something obvious to us but unknown to the rest of the world, like Linden dollars.
As a landlord, it hadn't occured to me to force prospective tenants into gladatorial combat before they can enter the parcel and look at a rental. I suppose that would be a good way to screen for serious applicants. I think I need to be more evil and megalomaniacal like that landlord. Were they in Svarga? I could have sworn I was even seeing the bird feeders, but my TV is really crappy. |
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Rebecca Proudhon
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10-25-2007 13:12
I fell asleep halfway through the CSI last night, just after I thought to myself, "It's funny how people in SL are bored so they watch TV and TV writers and producers play Sl cause they are so bored." This thread has also bored people so it mutated.
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Isablan Neva
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10-25-2007 13:20
I was watching the CSINY sims on the map during the East Coast airing... weird load-balancing: they seemed to be tightly filling the first 3 banks of sims (each "bank" having 4 sims: 2 for Orientation and 2 for gameplay, presumably). I watched the map all through East Coast and Central airings. When I stopped by the sims with maxxed out avatar levels, it seemed to be almost all oldbies who had come out to socialize and party. The rest of the banks seemed to load-balance out at around 10 avatars. I noticed that the numbers steadily grew and peaked right after each showing aired. By the time the West Coast airing was done the banks looked about 3/4 in use (with 3 of them completely full.) The time I spent in CSINY 1 reminded me of the old "Welcome Area" boardwalk in Ahern when I started where people would go to hang out in all kinds of wacky/fantastic avatars to show off. _____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
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10-25-2007 13:31
Do the majority of Americans even have High Speed connections good enough to run Second Life yet? Some form of broadband is available everywhere. The bigger question, of course, is do most people have a computer capable of running SL at FPS greater than 3? And the answer to that is "most certainly not." One of the CSI forum people mentioned her computer was 10 years old! _____________________
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Robustus Hax
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10-25-2007 13:32
I dont think there will be much impact after seeing the show. First person shooter fans may come thinking they can play cops and robbers but they will be immediately stricken with reality and sign out
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-25-2007 13:32
Some form of broadband is available everywhere. The bigger question, of course, is do most people have a computer capable of running SL at FPS greater than 3? And the answer to that is "most certainly not." One of the CSI forum people mentioned her computer was 10 years old! 10 years, huh. Mine is . . .um . . 5 years old I think. The one before that was an old Apple IIE that was about 15 or 20 or something. _____________________
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Isablan Neva
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10-25-2007 13:55
The CSINY sims are also pretty full right now with 20 - 30 per cluster.
**I also just dropped in on the CSINY 15 cluster - around 28 avatars total, every single one created either 10/24 or 10/25... _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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10-25-2007 14:21
Thanks, Isa: Sure enough, if I dig around, there are some busy clusters scattered seemingly at random through the CSINY universe, so the filling sequence is not simply ascending order of cluster number. A bit more encouraging, at least.
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Lelia Wakawaka
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10-25-2007 14:23
FYI Last night I went into LL Orientation Islands - every one of them that I checked were full - there are over 100 orientation islands, by the way. Also, from all reports I heard the CSI orientation islands also were busy and some volunteer members that chose to help (they were NOT asked to help!), did help some of the new residents that came in. I've been a mentor for a while now, and never have I ever seen all the islands full of new residents. Last night was a first!
Regarding the CSI experience, I've gone to the islands - and just had a few minutes to "play." Its interesting - the program also was interesting. There are games to play in addition to solving a mystery. I thought it was all very well done ... I see it as a positive event - I just wish I were feeling better so that I could spend more time solving the mystery! |
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Raymond Figtree
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10-25-2007 14:26
That episode was freaking Ethel Barrymore.
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Raudf Fox
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10-25-2007 14:35
*sighs in utter bemusement* Okay, I just had my mother come over. Apparently she had been watching CSI last night. I didn't watch it, sorry folks. I'm a gamer and if I have a choice between computer and the television, computer wins.
Well, she was actually MORE interested in SL now. So, I think she'll stop bugging me to get a life outside of family and computer Never mind that she has no idea what SL really is like or that she still doesn't have any desire in joining me in the cursing of it.. this alone has made the CSI worth it to me!_____________________
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Sally Silvera
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10-25-2007 14:46
Interesting to hear from those who were actually watching the activity in world. It sounds like the whole thing is actually attracting new residents. Let's hope they have a positive experience and don't leave screaming it's all rubbish
![]() BTW, I can remember a time when if more than 25,000 people in world I'd be sighing 'oh no, here comes lag' and the like. Now it seems 50,000 is almost normal and I'm not having major problems, nor have I heard from anyone else that this massive increase is making the skies fall (just MHO YMMV etc.) Can't comment on the TV programme, beause I don't have a TV ._____________________
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ArchTx Edo
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10-25-2007 14:47
You can watch last nights episode on the internet... here:
CSI: NY: Down the Rabbit Hole: I just watched it and thought it was entertaining. I enjoyed recognizing a few places like the Svarga sim. The differences they portrayed between the RL L and CSI L were interesting. A lot more people in CSI L use voice then what I have seen. LOL_____________________
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ArchTx Edo
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10-25-2007 14:52
Originally Posted by JessyAnne Theas
I thought dialup was illegal? Only in the District of Columbia, the US Virgin Islands and Guam. And in SL. A dialup connection to SL lags the whole sim down terribly. ![]() _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
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10-25-2007 14:53
I've had limited success wading through the other threads, but from what I saw, didn't find actual statistics. Is anything like that public, that we know of? I was watching the CSINY sims on the map during the East Coast airing... weird load-balancing: they seemed to be tightly filling the first 3 banks of sims (each "bank" having 4 sims: 2 for Orientation and 2 for gameplay, presumably). But the higher numbered banks sat completely idle, with once in a while just an avatar or two into the fourth. (Dunno, maybe it was intentional to fill sims tightly, to avoid looking vacant.) Or maybe the loading sequence wasn't that obvious, and some higher-numbered banks were filling that I just didn't find by poking around. But, if this guesswork is valid, it seem this ESCapade is sitting on 400-some idle sims. My field report - from 11:30 pm SL time last night, a count of all the people on the CSI sims except for the first cluster: 732. Here's the breakdown (with 4 sims per cluster): Clusters 2-10: 202 people Clusters 11-21: 77 people Clusters 22-31: 143 Clusters 32-41: 70 Clusters 42-41: 48 Clusters 52-61: 24 Clusters 62-71: 16 Clusters 72-81: 11 Clusters 82-91: 34 Clusters 92-101: 34 Clusters 102-105: 73 Forty-one of these 105 sim clusters had 0 people on them. I couldn’t see sim cluster #1 on the map, but was told that it was packed, so add however many people Cluster 1 would hold to 732, and you should have the number of people who were in the CSI sims at 11:30 SL time last night. coco _____________________
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ArchTx Edo
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10-25-2007 14:54
That sounds more realistic. But they claim 60 million households. Of course they could be data manipulating that. "53% of those who have internet access multiplied by the number of households in the US = 60 million" Basically assuming that EVERYONE in the US has internet access of some kind. Just seems .. off. I know plenty of people who don't even own computers. ------------------- http://itrain.org/itinfo/almost_twothirds_of_us_homes_have_an_online_computer.php This page would suggest its only 53% broadband of 55% Internet at all, so its quite possible that is what they did. That would yield around 30 million Broadband households with an indeterminate number who have computers that run SL. It seems that 2 million number tossed around of potential sign-ups was really unrealisitc, since its possible that only around 1/4 of the audience could even play SL if they wanted to. I suspect what it means is that it is available, that doesn not mean everyone who could, has signed up for it. _____________________
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