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Real Children on SL?

Jumpman Lane
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08-01-2009 20:19
very recently we encounterd what we believed were actual children on the sl adult grid WITH their rl parents.

i wanderd by figuring the kids were merely rping or masqueradin as kids so
i told my cfo (chief financial officer) "oh look a coupla midges." a whole turd storm ensued and i yapped smack right back at em until i realized they kept referin to the "midgets" as kids even when it was obvious that NOBODY was at a MALL role playin.

then i remebered a semi famous sl architect who brought his rl kids to an sl weddin. and i sentLlL like 20 abuse reports. we r gonna do a story on it called creepy kids onna grid in mid august
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Ricardo Harris
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08-01-2009 22:13
From: Scylla Rhiadra
It goes without saying, surely, that it is parents who have ultimate responsibility for looking after their children.

In the final analysis, even if parents HAVE been negligent, I, for one, am not about to simply abandon the kids. Yes, the parents should be there, but aren't. So the basis of THEIR failure, do we shrug and walk away?




So it's our job to look after them, right?

Wrong!!

Other then not doing anything in sl but losing sleep over them as some of you do, haven't you guys realized by now there's nothing you can really do. Nothing but rant on about kids and adult content on a daily basis. It seems this is all some of you do. The same blah, blah everyday.

In the final analysis, as you said, what have any of you done for the "kids?" What? I'll tell you what. NOT A THING! Nothing but write countless posts about the same thing day in and day out.

You would think there was something else besides "the kids" that you guys come to sl for.
Scylla Rhiadra
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08-01-2009 22:32
From: Ricardo Harris
So it's our job to look after them, right?

Wrong!!

Other then not doing anything in sl but losing sleep over them as some of you do, haven't you guys realized by now there's nothing you can really do. Nothing but rant on about kids and adult content on a daily basis. It seems this is all some of you do. The same blah, blah everyday.

In the final analysis, as you said, what have any of you done for the "kids?" What? I'll tell you what. NOT A THING! Nothing but write countless posts about the same thing day in and day out.

My, how very Dickensian of you, Ricardo. "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?", eh?

/me throws you a copy of Little Dorrit

As to the accusation that we are doing "NOT A THING" for the kids, may I suggest that you have absolutely NO idea what any of us may or may not be doing, in RL or, most probably, in SL.

Perhaps in future you should limit your comments, then, to things within your sphere of competence. Which, granted, would likely restrict your conversation pretty severely.

In the meantime, please feel free to use that useful little "ignore" feature that will appear on my profile. It won't hurt my feelings at all.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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08-01-2009 22:48
oh ,it's already friday...

I tend not to worry about stuffs that does not strike me as critical. Childs aren't.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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08-01-2009 23:05
From: Kyrah Abattoir
oh ,it's already friday...

I tend not to worry about stuffs that does not strike me as critical. Childs aren't.


Oh yeah, that $L200 prim griefer rifle that disappeared from your inventory is something that is really critical, huh? :)

Oh, and it's Sunday. Well, for another hour it's still Saturday for me but for you it's early Sunday. :)
Kyrah Abattoir
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08-01-2009 23:14
From: Peggy Paperdoll
Oh yeah, that $L200 prim griefer rifle that disappeared from your inventory is something that is really critical, huh? :)

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but yes inventory loss does strike me as a more important issue.

From: Peggy Paperdoll

Oh, and it's Sunday. Well, for another hour it's still Saturday for me but for you it's early Sunday. :)

It was intended to be humor.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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08-01-2009 23:47
My solution:

Bring back Child Labor!!!!

Make the lil' suckers work 8-12hrs a day on top of school! They'll be too tired to bother with going online.

Besides, small kids dont need as high of a tunnel when digging mines. :D
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Kyrah Abattoir
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08-01-2009 23:48
isn't that what paperboy job is for?
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Scylla Rhiadra
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08-01-2009 23:54
From: Kyrah Abattoir
isn't that what paperboy job is for?

That's no good: it just earns them the money to buy their own computer.

I wonder ... are the teens and kids sneaking on to the main grid all boys? I haven't seen any mention of girls in this thread, I think. I suspect that may say a great deal about the main attractions of SL for them.
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Tegg Bode
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08-02-2009 00:38
From: Chris Norse
When in the hell did I adopt other people's children? The responsibility for the care of other people's children belongs to those parents not to me. I accept NO responsibility for anyone else or their children. The only person in this world who has any claim upon me is my daughter. Not you, not the government, not someone else or their child, ONLY MY daughter has any claim upon me.

Yep, why should anyone else have any responsibility for your kids too, if they get lost in the mall, forest or freeway it's not other peoples responsibility to look out for them and help you find them............
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08-02-2009 01:46
From: Scylla Rhiadra
That's no good: it just earns them the money to buy their own computer.

I wonder ... are the teens and kids sneaking on to the main grid all boys? I haven't seen any mention of girls in this thread, I think. I suspect that may say a great deal about the main attractions of SL for them.

you missed the sterotypical rant on little girls and dress-up? for shame.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-02-2009 02:05
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I wonder ... are the teens and kids sneaking on to the main grid all boys? I haven't seen any mention of girls in this thread, I think. I suspect that may say a great deal about the main attractions of SL for them.

The girls that sneak on are less visible; the ones I have met have been working as escorts to earn the money to feed their shoes habit. :eek:

Pep (They tend to keep their heads down. :p )
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Jig Chippewa
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08-02-2009 02:45
My only suggestion would be to provide a warning label before entering sl - the same as on cds these days. There was one on the latest Lily Allen cd. The warning is made. The parent must now decide.
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08-02-2009 02:51
From: Jig Chippewa
My only suggestion would be to provide a warning label before entering sl - the same as on cds these days. There was one on the latest Lily Allen cd. The warning is made. The parent must now decide.

I've never understood those labels.

Pep (Why do I have to ask my Dad for guidance? At 87, what does he know about Lily Allen's music?)
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Jig Chippewa
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08-02-2009 02:56
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I've never understood those labels.

Pep (Why do I have to ask my Dad for guidance? At 87, what does he know about Lily Allen's music?)


Prollymore than you might think. Anyway get on the welfare thread I am on also. That should make you even more disgusted with me than usual.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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08-02-2009 03:08
From: Jig Chippewa
My only suggestion would be to provide a warning label before entering sl - the same as on cds these days. There was one on the latest Lily Allen cd. The warning is made. The parent must now decide.


The suggestions to provide a big notice on registration and/or login that SL "contains adult content", and to provide parental controls were both made on the most popular JIRA issue ever. Guess what LL did? closed it down without comment.

So those who urge us to "think of the childred", Linden Lab has decided not to do more than they are doing with the verification system now in place. Take it up with them, not us.
Jig Chippewa
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08-02-2009 04:01
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
The suggestions to provide a big notice on registration and/or login that SL "contains adult content", and to provide parental controls were both made on the most popular JIRA issue ever. Guess what LL did? closed it down without comment.

So those who urge us to "think of the childred", Linden Lab has decided not to do more than they are doing with the verification system now in place. Take it up with them, not us.


Well, I am not really taking it up with you - or anyone really. Just thought it made for an interesting topic and hopefully got some people excited and going "harrumph"
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Deira Llanfair
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08-02-2009 04:35
Of the people here who have pre-teen children, can I ask whether they would:

- allow their pre-teen to use a SL account?
- set up a SL account for their pre-teen?
- allow their pre-teen to see SL with themself supervising the child?

My kids are all older now - the youngest 17 years - and SL wasn't around when they were little. As pre-teens, my boys would not have been interested - if you couldn't race, chase, fight, kick or score with clear rules and goals, it wouldn't have been much of a game for them. I'm sure they did have imaginative play - but there was always an element of competition included.

However, I can't help wondering what I would have done if I had been into SL when my daughter was young. I can easily see how she might have looked on with interest as I dressed my avatar or tested a dance animation - she would have seen that as imaginative play activity. I, personally, can't see that as being necessarily bad - it would have been my responsibility to supervise this, though I doubt I would have had the time for SL then.
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Jig Chippewa
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08-02-2009 04:45
From: Deira Llanfair
Of the people here who have pre-teen children, can I ask whether they would:

- allow their pre-teen to use a SL account?
- set up a SL account for their pre-teen?
- allow their pre-teen to see SL with themself supervising the child?

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Wotcha Deira! Okay I dont have kids but I have advice instead.
Kids need more freedom. I was staying with my real (biological) dad once - I was 16 and there was this party in Kent. Anyway, he said I could go but he was gonna come and collect me at ten. Anyway, I DIDNT tell him which village the party was at (and he forgot to ask), just to slow him down and it took him THREE extra hours to track me down. So more freedom. He actually had to call my Mum halfway round the world to find out who my friends were and where they lived. He was ballistic. TRUE.
Also we like to eat and then we like to puke. I used to do that.
And drink till we are rat-faced with head in a toilet bowl.
I never wanted any recriminations about my school work. I hated being sent to school each term. Later, it turned out, so did they when tehy were my age!
One thing I was never denied was birth control. That was really great.
Errr, sl? Oh keep them away from it as long as you can and guard your computer with your life. Kidz! Lol, who'd have them/ Not me! :)
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Deira Llanfair
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08-02-2009 04:51
Hallo Jig :)

My experience is that kids start to improve gradually after 16 - 16 is about rock bottom.

But - I was asking about pre-teens.
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Jig Chippewa
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08-02-2009 04:55
From: Deira Llanfair
Hallo Jig :)

My experience is that kids start to improve gradually after 16 - 16 is about rock bottom.

But - I was asking about pre-teens.


My bottom was never a rock - IT ROCKED! LOL! Nice one, Jig.
Oh pre-teens should be outside playing in the local spinney or woods and stuff. That's when they arent in boarding school. I started out as a boarder when I was little. Didnt do me any harm.
On holidays I was kept outside playing and stuff liek that.
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Deira Llanfair
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08-02-2009 05:01
From: Jig Chippewa
My bottom was never a rock - IT ROCKED! LOL! Nice one, Jig.


In some cases, the post 16 improvement is a _very_ gradual process. ;)
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Dawnee Swansong
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08-02-2009 05:49
From: Jig Chippewa
We have a social contract as modern societies in the real world to safeguard all children and treat them with respect and consideration. Not all parents behave appropriately, so we must act on the childrens' behalf. There is too much suicide, addictions and sadness in societies with great wealth. What happpened to us that we can deny responsibility for children? They are the fabric of our future.


QFT ... bears repeating.

From: Tegg Bode
Yep, why should anyone else have any responsibility for your kids too, if they get lost in the mall, forest or freeway it's not other peoples responsibility to look out for them and help you find them............


Nicely put Tegg.
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08-02-2009 05:55
From: Deira Llanfair
Of the people here who have pre-teen children, can I ask whether they would:
- allow their pre-teen to use a SL account?
- set up a SL account for their pre-teen?
- allow their pre-teen to see SL with themself supervising the child?

No, no and yes. :cool:

Pep (if they couldn't read it would be even easier! :D )
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Chris Norse
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08-02-2009 07:00
From: Tegg Bode
Yep, why should anyone else have any responsibility for your kids too, if they get lost in the mall, forest or freeway it's not other peoples responsibility to look out for them and help you find them............



Which is why I take the responsibility to see that she doesn't get lost. But then you are talking about voluntary action not some imaginary "social contract".
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