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AK Alchemi
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09-02-2009 18:53
I am a noob.
I just noticed, using the camera controls, that my avatar nods like an idiot after every statement I make in local chat. She does not do this for questions, only for statements. For every statement. It makes her look like she's got some kind of neurological issue. Please tell me I can turn this off. I do just fine looking like an idiot on my own without some script assisting me. TY.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-02-2009 19:07
From: AK Alchemi I am a noob.
I just noticed, using the camera controls, that my avatar nods like an idiot after every statement I make in local chat. She does not do this for questions, only for statements. For every statement. It makes her look like she's got some kind of neurological issue. Please tell me I can turn this off. I do just fine looking like an idiot on my own without some script assisting me. TY. Welcome to the League of Idiots, aka, SL avatars! /me nods.
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Clarissa Lowell
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09-02-2009 19:08
I think there is a Torley video about this on youtube.
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Anti Antonelli
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09-02-2009 19:13
Welcome!
You need to be using an Animation Overrider with animations that take control of the head and neck joints at a high enough priority to not let the bobbing come through. It'll probably take some shopping and testing of various animation sets (while chatting away, to see the results) to find ones that work for you in terms of the actual animations AND suppress the nodding. Supressing the nod is not a feature I've seen advertised often (more people seem to want to suppress the typing animation that precedes the nod).
If you haven't run across the term Animation Overrider yet, it's the same thing that allows people to have more stylized versions of walking and sitting and standing, while you might still be stuck with the stumbly default chicken walk. Getting an Animation Overrider (AO) is a good early step to not looking like a noob, if that's something that matters to you.
edit: I believe you can still suppress both the typing and the nodding if you precede everything you type with "/0 " (minus the quotes). But that's not much fun after a while.
edit2: ugh, fixed channel. Good catch Ren.
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09-02-2009 19:16
If you don't have one yet, get an animation overrider - commonly called an AO. Go to xstreetsl.com or slapt.me, and you can find a couple of them in the first few pages of the free section. Once you've been around longer, you can research a more expensive and well designed one - but the free ones are still rather nice, just overly common.  It might also take some sampling - some AOs will override the typing and camming animations, and some won't.
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Clarissa Lowell
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09-02-2009 19:16
I think there is a debug for it, I just can't recall what it is. I think there is a Torley instructional vid that tells all about it.
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AK Alchemi
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09-02-2009 19:54
I have an Outrider AO. I chose it because I did not want an AO that makes me vamp like a streetwalker. Obviously it does not suppress the nodding. *sigh*
What puzzles me is that I do not see other avatars nodding as they speak. Everybody must have the right AO except me. Ah, the tortured life of a noob. How many Ls can I waste in a week?
I will look into the suggestions you all have offered, especially that video. I don't understand why I can turn off the typing, but not the nodding. I can't believe how inane it looks!
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-02-2009 19:56
From: AK Alchemi I have an Outrider AO. I chose it because I did not want an AO that makes me vamp like a streetwalker. Obviously it does not suppress the nodding. *sigh*
What puzzles me is that I do not see other avatars nodding as they speak. Everybody must have the right AO except me. Ah, the tortured life of a noob. How many Ls can I waste in a week?
I will look into the suggestions you all have offered, especially that video. I don't understand why I can turn off the typing, but not the nodding. I can't believe how inane it looks! It's not the AO, per se, it's the animations loaded into it. That said, I use a freebie ZHAO II, but loaded with fairly pricey anims from Vista. But I still nod. It's annoying as hell.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-02-2009 19:59
Change her outfits, call her Kathryn Hepburn, and off you go.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-02-2009 20:00
From: Bradley Bracken Change her outfits, call her Kathryn Hepburn, and off you go. Ooooooh, boo!!!!!!!! 
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Ren Austinmer
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09-02-2009 20:10
From: Anti Antonelli
edit: I believe you can still suppress both the typing and the nodding if you precede everything you type with "/1 " (minus the quotes). But that's not much fun after a while.
If you do that you'll be talking in channel 1 and no one will hear (unless they have a channel scanner). I think you meant "/" but that still leaves the head to nod unless you have a high priority animation on your AO as you said. Don't worry AK, you'll eventually ignore it. 
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AK Alchemi
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09-02-2009 20:23
So far I can't find the Torley video, though I've been watching some of the others.
Scylla, you bring up another question. I have been to Vista. I have a ZHAO II. How do I buy individual Vista animations? I see their prices as I go through them on a pose stand, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to buy them. I would love to buy a few individual standing poses, since it's just standing around that seems to have the most potential for looking truly dorky. Having said that, however, the Outrider AO comes with a slower walk that causes the av to stumble onto all fours while attempting to ascend a staircase. Sweet!
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-02-2009 21:07
From: AK Alchemi Scylla, you bring up another question. I have been to Vista. I have a ZHAO II. How do I buy individual Vista animations? I see their prices as I go through them on a pose stand, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to buy them. I would love to buy a few individual standing poses, since it's just standing around that seems to have the most potential for looking truly dorky. Having said that, however, the Outrider AO comes with a slower walk that causes the av to stumble onto all fours while attempting to ascend a staircase. Sweet! When you "sit" on the pose stands, scroll through until you find the pose you want. Then right click on the pose stand and choose "Buy." You will be charged for just that one pose, and it will be delivered to your inventory.
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LittleMe Jewell
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09-02-2009 21:49
And even if you get the right animations for your AO, anytime you are sitting/cuddling/whatever in another pose, the head may or may not still bob.
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Clarissa Lowell
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09-02-2009 21:54
From: AK Alchemi So far I can't find the Torley video, though I've been watching some of the others. Haven't found an answer for you yet, either - in google or youtube. I could swear it was a past forum topic. Maybe search for past thread titles?
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Innula Zenovka
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09-03-2009 00:45
From: Clarissa Lowell Haven't found an answer for you yet, either - in google or youtube.
I could swear it was a past forum topic. Maybe search for past thread titles? http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=248315&highlight=nodding
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Brann Georgia
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09-03-2009 00:57
From: AK Alchemi I do just fine looking like an idiot on my own without some script assisting me. TY. That line is priceless Be assured that this noob stage is a temporary thing. While no avatar ever stops looking entirely peculiar you'll soon enough blend in with the non-noobs. Enjoy this time - some of us look back on it with a strange sense of nostalgia. I have an AO and I still nod when speaking. Not always, though. My AO, like many people's, cycles through several standing animations and some will override the head-nod and others won't. At least that's my theory. It doesn't bother me enough to try to turn it off. Not everyone dislikes that default animation. I'd bet a lot of folks don't even notice it any more. (Which, I suppose defeats its purpose) C.
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09-03-2009 01:01
From: Innula Zenovka http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=248315&highlight=nodding In that thread we have: From: Bree Giffen Any priority 4 animation that animates the head and neck will stop the head nod. Many animations do not animate the head and neck so that the head follows the default behavior of looking at whatever you click on. Unfortunately this also allows the head to nod while chatting.
So the easiest fix is to find a 'stand', 'sit' and 'flying' animation that are priority 4 and make use of the head and neck. Then put these into your AO. You can usually preview animations from a vendor so try typing while you are previewing and see if your head moves.
I'm not aware of any debug option to turn head nods off. Rather than necro that thread, I'll ask here: 1. Is there a list available of the standard animations and their priorities? 2. Why do animators not display the priority of their animations? I'm sick to death of being forced either to remove the sit animations from my AO or else turn off the AO on the fly when sitting on something with a lower priority than the one in my AO.
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EF Klaar
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09-03-2009 01:17
From: Sling Trebuchet Is there a list available of the standard animations and their priorities? http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Internal_Animations
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-03-2009 02:15
From: Anti Antonelli I believe you can still suppress both the typing and the nodding if you precede everything you type with "/1 " (minus the quotes). But that's not much fun after a while. /0, not /1 /1 will chat on channel one and nobody will hear you. /0 will chat on channel zero, as normal, but disable the animations. Just / won't change the chat channel, and it will disable the animation, but people will see everything you type starting with /.
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Gabriele Graves
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09-03-2009 02:23
Debug Setting: PlayTypingAnim
Set this to FALSE
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EF Klaar
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09-03-2009 03:15
Can the animation be disabled, but not the sound effect - without resorting to a script?
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Deira Llanfair
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09-03-2009 03:26
From: Clarissa Lowell I think there is a Torley video about this on youtube. Is there? I've not come across this - there is one about supressing the typing animation. There is always a bit of a compromise about ao animations as usually people do not want stands or walks to be set at a high priority - but if they are not at a high enough priority the default animations, such as the nodding on chat and typing etc., will still be seen. Another thing that can affect it is not animating all the joints, e.g., the head or neck joints - if this isn't done then the default nodding will still occur.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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09-03-2009 03:28
I have always assumed that everybody was nodding because they agreed with me. Pep (has never seen anyone shake their head at what he's said.  )
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spinster Voom
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09-03-2009 04:08
From: Gabriele Graves Debug Setting: PlayTypingAnim
Set this to FALSE Isn't this setting now also in preferences?
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