Male vs Female Avatar Resources

Haha... well... I see your point, but I also have in my inventory some very high quality "crap" furniture for those times when you need dirty and grunge.

I want an unbuttoned hawaiian shirt with some well done, high resolution textures, and perhaps a prim collar (maybe optional).



Oh, just saw this. Thanks for the tip. I'll go have a look see...

Lapoint and Bastchild have resizeable formal dress shoes for guys. They utilize a menu for resizing, and seem to work okay.

Things have improved for guys' fashion since I started in SL in 2006...a lot. It was really hard then to find anything nice to wear.

It can still be hard to find nice things to wear but it's only the finding that is hard potentially, there *is* good stuff out there.

Lots of people have given good tips already; my only tip to add to the above would be to check out a good quality and frequently updated men's fashion blog for ideas. The one I check a lot is

http://www.second-man.com


SO many ideas here. There are other really great ones too.

SL style bloggers often cover men's fashions. It is a lot easier than flying at random around the grid hoping to luck into something good.

I agree the ratio of good fashion for female vs. male is ridiculously out of balance, though. I hear this from every single male in SL that I talk to for any length of time.

Drop a note card in the suggestion box of every clothing store that offers one of those. Maybe even send a note card to some designers who don't.

But let them know what you'd like to see, what you'd like (your av) to be able to wear. I was talking about this topic with a guy in SL yesterday. Only reasons I can think of are:

Women designers are more familiar with women's fashions

It's more fun to design women's fashions as there are more options (categories) available

Perhaps (I haven't tried) men's fashions are harder to make well in SL

Designers think (accurately or not) women's fashions will sell more often and for more $L

What I really, really want, is for makers of mens pants to state in their product description, whether they are low-rise or full height at the waist. I like to wear a jacket-layer unbuttoned shirt, with a shirt-layer teeshirt or vest underneath, and I don't want two inches of my soft pale beer-gut showing through the gap. It's unfair to expect creators of shirts to "fill the gap" by selling shirts that also include the bottom part of the texture on underpants.

I can't tell you how many pairs of pants I've bought and thrown in the trash after two minutes, because they don't meet the shirt at the top.

Just... stop it.

Or at least start making demos or something.

well, as a male, and a shopper, like the other's I own very little clothing and usually just wear the same things...
and yes, I do complain about not enough male clothing inworld.... and yes I do get asked what do I want and
reply with dunno....

When i go shopping, I have no specific thing in mind i want, I just know it's time for a new outfit. The issue becomes that while out looking for that new outfit, I can't find anything I could ever see myself wearing. I don't know what I want, but i don't want what I can get, if that makes any sense.

But maybe i'm to picky when it comes to shopping.. I don't want anything that requires 'prim' attachments, I can't make them fit me, i'm not going to spend hours trying to make it fit me, it's just not going to be attached, and if the outfit lacks because of it, well that outfits going into the trash. shirts on anything but jacket layer, end up not meeting with the pants half the time, i'm not showing off my belly to the world.... into the trash. anything with lines that end up looking mashed or crooked because of the crappy avatar mesh, yep that's right.... trash.
So i've eliminated half the options, take away goth... take away grunge..., and i'm left with very little options.

That's actually the look I was trying to get for a small while, and never managed it... the shirt and pants just never met properly.

This shouldn't take hours. It's been my experience people aren't zooming in and looking at every tiny detail. We are used to seeing avatars with necklaces and cuffs, etc., that don't exactly fit. If you zoom in and make them fit, they stop fitting as soon as you zoom out and vice versa. This may have something to do with the way details are rendered differently at a distance.

I usually just do the best I can and then enjoy the world.

Try Shia menswear. They have the whole deal and it looks great.

Just found some reasonable khaki cargo shorts at Jungle Wear, plus a button down long sleeve shirt that doesn't look too bad from a distance (again at Jungle Wear).

I have furry legs and hooves, so I've been looking at shirts and jackets. Ended up just buying a smoking jacket at Sn@tch while they had the 50% sale on.

Some bomber jackets looked interesting at one of the places mentioned in that other thread. But I didn't buy it, or seriously look at the shirts because of the prices. 500L for 1 shirt? 900L for a bomber jacket? It looked really nice on the ad board and I might of gotten it, if I hadn't seen another customer buy it. The skirt part (lower part of jacket), was a different shade than the shirt/jacket/undershirt part (whichever part was used). It did seem to look nice, but not 900L nice.

This furry legs with hooves is a new thing. One of the reasons I slide around so easily from critter to critter is the lack of good male clothing. Quality. That doesn't cost an arm and leg.

Style package or single shirt? Depends on the price. If it is 375L for package and 100L for shirt, I'll get the package. If it is 500L for 1 shirt, like the store I can't remember the name of mentioned above, then no sale.

Note: I bought that Redgrave suit a long time ago. Comes with a lot of nice little parts. 1200L. It isn't that I won't pay for quality, it was that I need to know it is quality. That Redgrave suit saw me through many months, with switching around with the jacket/shirt layer, until I got a free blue vest that went great with it.

Currently smoking a pipe and wearing a smoking jacket, but if I hadn't wandered into that sale at Sn@tch I'd be wandering as a naked Satyr. This is after two years of searching for male clothing.

Edit: saw store name later in thread: Muism

oops hit send by accident!

He & She, Adam n Eve, Head - Toe Menswear, LeLutka, Frock You, Harrop's, Vanbeeck's, Shiki, Steinwerk, Polygon Fashion House, Action Board Skate n Surf, Sartoria, Bishwear, Lilli Catteneo, FKNY!, Dutch Touch, and as for military: Military & WW2 outfitters.

Shop some of the women's shops - oddly there will often be a men's dept. Even if it's a small room there might be something there you were looking for.

some interesting stuff you mentioned, and I am trying my hand at poloshirts....

but not sure what to do with them other than the usual strips and solids...

flowers? bananas? other fruits? cats? dogs? pictures of prim boxes? LOL

see silly ideas but one never will know what ppl want until one tries (I might try the picture of prim boxes idea LOL)

ok so I got silly and tried the cube on a polo shirt heh

(it actually did not come out too bad)

Here is a quick snapshot...
all I did was take a snapshot of a cube on a white background, brought it into photoshop, cleared the background, and resized the cube and placed it randomly over the template for the shirt. I like how it came out. Unique and done with a real prim LOL



(makes the boobs look strange because it is shaded for a guy, not female (might do a female shaded one though))

Charlie Brown zigzags?

Polo shirts don't have pictures on them. Maybe a logo on the breast. I have a bunch of shirts and vests that I don't wear because they have some big old pattern on them that makes them look like livery.

What makes a polo shirt for a guy is having the collar look realistic, not having pictures all over it.

MALE avatar items only, in this prize hunt. It starts in June. Here is the URL for the blog:

http://makehimover.blogspot.com

Now you GUYS will get to see what fun it is being yelled at by the hunt organisers.

But seriously - it also has a list of participating shops so a lot of those will likely carry men's clothing, for those interested in finding new places to shop.

For me personally, if I'm going to wear anything with a design I usually prefer something subtle over something bright and in-yer-face. For instance, that prim box design you made (*points to picture above*) is a subtle one, whereas if you'd not blended the prims with the blue colour and instead let them stand out in bright plywood, it may have come across as more kids'-pyjama-ish than t-shirt-ish. Unless it's an iconic image (and even then I'll only buy iconic image stuff if I'm feeling retro ), then I much prefer subtlety.

Jesseaitui Petion has some beautifully-subtle designs on his t-shirts. Visit the mens' section at Aitui and see the kind of things he's putting on tees. I'm not usually a great buyer of t-shirts, but I own several of his. The designs are superb.

In RL, I have a long sleeve polo with 3 wide diagonal stripes, and another with 3-4 vertical stripes of unequal width. I don't think that sort of design would work well in RL with short sleeves, but in SL they might work either way. The Gap and Old Navy both have some interesting polo designs on their web sites (perhaps because Gap, Inc. owns both). Some of their design approaches might carry over well to SL (plaids on an angle, medium stripes with a couple of color changes, stripes at shoulder or mid-chest only), argyle, etc.).

But you're right, the most important part in SL is getting the collar looking right. For that matter, I'd settle for a good looking henley, which ought to be easier.

and exactly what do you consider a realistic collar? Does the one above not have a collar that has the correct shading and such?

wait a sec, this is SL, a polo shirt can have anything on it that we want to put on it right?
who says we have to conform to the ridgors of RL when it comes to creating... anything in SL

Sure some folks will look at it and think ewww, but myself, I actually like it, cuz it is different, it is (excuse the pun) outside the box.



That was why I did not put them as loud colored boxes, I too like things that blend, and do not look like they are ironed on.

Jesse's stuff rocks, I only wish I could do as well as he... *sighs*



oh well, I was being silly, but I like my silly, no one said anyone here has to buy it... like it... don't like.. makes no matter to me either way.

Not really. It doesn't look like it's actually made of cloth.

That's actually a cool shirt, looks like a uniform for a prim service company.

ROFL never thought of that

been trying to do another one, too see if I can do better with the whole look.

been using some photos as reference, then working from that
(I also noticed, upon studying polo shirts, they seem to have a bit of a larger collar than the one I did)

*shrug*

I've spent the last week looking for Hawaiian shirts. Most, as you said, are extremely low quality. Even when I went to stores that I would normally recommend, their Hawaiian shirts were crap.

Borrow someone who wears polo shirts, and look at what they look like on them. You don't get that sharp transition from the buttoned up part of the collar to the rest of the collar, and if it's buttoned up all the way like that (usually you leave a button or two loose) it'll be higher up the neck.

I do not know anyone who wears polo shirts (if you mean RL, heck do not know anyone in SL that wears them LOL)

So I did some searching on the web, found some shirts to study, some not worn some worn, and this is the results

(so far.. I have this (and a few other designs, but I am still working on tightening it up)
(This time I changed myself to male, to give it the correct look (it is not shaded for boobies LOL) not all will have contrasting sleeves)