Male vs Female Avatar Resources

You mean werehood, don't you?

Right, that. ^ It's way past my bedtime . . .

LOL yeah maybe. No I meant I did the pinstripes for an "average" guy which is pretty much how AvPainter renders things and what I use to touch up my Photoshop work. I think if you wore that shirt, the stripes would likely pinch in but it's really hard to tell what happens unless you actually try it.

Werility.

Werility.
I wouldn't wear that shirt with stripes, don't be silly!

I don't buy t-shirts, my inventory is already overflowing with them.

My fave stores are Cattivo, Zanzo, Shai and Izumiya, and Hoorenbeeks for shoes.

Casual slacks (for example, gray/black flannel)
Khaki shorts appropriate for the Yacht Club
Boat shoes that fit
Various color turtleneck shirts that are not too tight
Jeans that don't fit like running tights
Button front shirts that are buttoned, and not white

PS - anything that doesn't require the "inverted triangle" upper body look

That's the image I was looking for! Thanks, Argent! LOL

Polos with a good looking but non-prim collar, no built-in undershirt, with both zero or one button buttoned, both tucked and untucked, and a more original design than solid, rugby stripes, or narrow stripes.

Hats that look good on top of prim hair - baseball caps, Kangol-style caps, military berets, bowlers, derbies, fedoras, Hamburgs, cowboy hats, etc. They'll need to be resizable.

Hoodies and button downs that can be closed, open, or partly open - and that look good partly open regardless of the V angle.

Sneakers that can be resized, with a clean design that doesn't infringe on Adidas, Nike, or other existing RL brands.

Cargo shorts with somewhat adjustable length (meaning the side pocket must be above mid-thigh).

Dress shirts with bow-ties (non-prim), open and closed.

Dress slacks that don't need prim cuffs or flares to look good.

Military uniforms, including hats/caps, both officer and enlisted, dress, combat, and regular, modern and historical styles, multiple countries.

Creative futuristic clothing.

Classic white tennis shoes, like actual tennis players wore back in the '70s.

From what I'm reading the problem is this: Women buy An Outfit, for the most part. It's got shirts that go with the pants that go with the prim whatevers, that go with the jacket, etc.

Men buy a la carte; a shirt here, a shirt there, etc. Kidd Krasner's example of the polo shirt: Do you want to buy every. single. one. of those options all in the same package? Say you have a yellow polo shirt: Do you want to buy that same polo shirt as a "style package" having 4 different ways of wearing it? Would you be willing to pay for that style package? e.g. instead of buying one shirt at L$100, you'd pay L$375 for the package of shirts. Or do you want to buy them separately, one at a time? Or both?

Well, if a women's outfit costs (say) L$400 for one color in 6 parts (eg 3 upper layers, 2 lower layers, prim skirt) then I'd expect to pay L$100 for a shirt in one color on 3 layers, or L$400 for a fat pack (5 colors, 2 layers each) or an outfit (shirt on 2 layers, jacket on 2 layers, trousers on 2 layers, all matching).

Assuming we're talking about L$400 worth of outfit, or L$100 worth of shirt. Depending on how much OMG-I-GOTTA-GET-SOME-OF-THAT it's imbued with those numbers could go up or down a factor of two or more.

What do I want? Depends on what I'm looking for... a finish to a particular avatar, or just something to have in my wardrobe to mix and match.

That wasn't what I meant. Kidd's example of a polo shirt was "Polos with a good looking but non-prim collar, no built-in undershirt, with both zero or one button buttoned, both tucked and untucked,"

I'm not talking about 1 style (one button unbuttoned) made for 3 layers (undershirt, shirt, jacket), I'm talking about 4 styles (zero buttons, 1 button, tucked, untucked) made for one shirt layer.

Personally (and this really is just my personal style) I almost *never* wear tucked-in shirts and/or t-shirts; I wear the untucked jacket layer. The only time I opt for tucked-in is when I'm in smart club gear/formalwear, or when I'm wearing a jacket and I need something to wear underneath it. Alas, there is no option for wearing an untucked t-shirt beneath a jacket, unless you opt for a pant layer with the lower part of the t-shirt also on it, and that severely limits your choice of pants.

My own experience is very much as you mentioned, Oryx: a la carte. I've even gone so far as to put the collar from an Armidi shirt with an actual shirt from Truth. And if there's something I want, I have a high spending threshold, so 450L for a pair of Redgrave jeans is, in my opinion, a good buy.

Well, okay, so change my polo example to the jacket layer. Would guys buy a four style package? Or do you not buy packages? I hesitate to use the word "fat pack" because that, to me, means one style in multiple colors, not multiple styles in one color.

Some womens outfits solve this problem by having the lower part of the T-shirt on the skirt option. You can wear a skirt and pants at the same time.

It would honestly depend on whether I liked the package styles (no pun intended *g*) Polo shirts aren't my thing, but if you were offering clothes that *were* my thing, and the package came in a colour that I liked, then I might conceivably buy it.

I have previously bought shirts with sleeve length options (long and also rolled-up), complete with prim cuffs at both levels, and also closed-neck with/without tie and open-neck (Aoharu have a great suit like this with so many options that it's confusing), so sure I would buy it, but it would depend whether it was my kind of thing. (Incidentally, 'my kind of thing' differs greatly from the kinds of things other guys are suggesting on this thread that they would like. I'm definitely not your 'typical guy' when it comes to fashion.)

I have to add, too, that I have been known to buy a big-ticket, full-outfit item (yes, even womens' clothing) just to get one single piece of the outfit that I know will work perfectly with an outfit I'm putting together, but I wouldn't count on every guy in SL being as obsessive as me about that

Yeah, I've seen those, but again you're limited to styles and also to whether the t-shirt/top has boob shading or is unisex. Good suggestion, though: I'd forgotten about that option.

I've been trying to find a really high quality hawaiian shirt that is worn unbuttoned. All the stuff I see on SLX looks pretty low-quality to me.

Also, what's up with no mod dress shoes that are made for clown feet? Sheesh! I found a pair of dress shoes from HoC for 50L and they're better than all the other dress shoes I ever bought (plus they're mod).

Turtlenecks... eww... I haven't found any I like in SL. I don't like them in RL anyway though....

Maybe some avant garde or futuristic stuff that isn't grunge, goth, or battle armor?

I want all the styles for a single shirt in one package.

What I don't want is to be forced to pay much more because all the colors are in one package. If one shirt is $100, I might buy three colors for $250, but if my only choice is 5 colors at $350, I probably won't buy it at all.

Nor do I want to be forced to buy different items in one package. In other words, I don't want to be forced to pay more just because an undershirt is bundled with a shirt, or because a dress shirt is bundled with a suit. Even if the price is fair, the mere act of bundling makes me worry about whether I can mix or match it. There are exceptions, particularly for costumes.

I'd prefer to buy in packages, for example, multiple colored polos, cargo shorts and long khakis all in the pack.

Untucked would be two versions on the jacket layer, and tucked would be two versions on the shirt and/or undershirt layers. Four or six wearables, two or three layers. Shirt and undershirt layers are really needed so you can wear a sweater or vest, and those are usually on the shirt layer, and still have a loose polo on the shirt layer.

A deluxe version would have an "untucked" lower half jacket layer and pants layer so you can have the polo untucked under a vest or jacket, and over regular or boot cut pants (pants on the underpants layer).

A cheap version would have an untucked lower half jacket layer and two upper half layers, for three wearables. The two upper halves could be two shirts, or a shirt and undershirt. Three wearables, but I wouldn't buy it.

Isn't that an oxymoron?

oooh!! Like Stan Smiths?

White canvas... even these are a bit "prep" for 1975:



This is better:

DE Design makes some nice ones.
NoPink makes off the wall stuff, but they look pretty good.
B-Side Couture comes with prim stuff but can be worn without and give you every possible option on every possible layer. they look good for girls too, I have several.


The guy that runs the Aeronautica air combat sims makes really cool hats and they seem to fit the people that I have seen with them, very well. I know he makes bowlers, fedoras and cowboy hats. Not sure what a Kangol or Hamburg is.


Use women's ... I know a half dozen guys that do this. You will need prim stuff though.


Soriel - So nice I wish they would make women's. Pricey though.
There are a billion on XStreet, and you can dip into some women's too.


SD, they come with prim cuffs, but look ok without.
B-Side Couture again ... Sasha Laval makes nice stuff, and while it mostly advertized as men's most can be unisexed.
This is another where you can find girls stuff that isn't too hugger, and it works ... matter of fact, it would have higher pockets like you want, right?


People have mentioned Blaze and Hoorenbeck. Both are good I think. I see a lot on XStreet that look kind of nice.


There is no such thing for either sex. It's prim cuffs or capris for me.


Post Exchange is good selection and GREAT service, but only pretty good quality. Search people=Edward Pluto to find it.


No idea here ... not sure what you mean by this.


For the Hawiian shirt guy ... Aloha shirt looks promissing.

Anything you buy at Muism is awesome ... and they REALLY know it!!!