Flying Your Space Craft In Sl

The rl goverment defines airspace, for military and civilian uses. Used to own to the air though, before planes became popular.

Others can fly between 400+ m to the ceiling on my land, otherwise security orbs catch you - 15 second warning, ejection. Plenty of time to keep moving and not get caught, even with unaided av flight.



Quoting you to show the comments and nasty insults you throw when I only point out facts. You're not welcome over my land, and that primmy abomination is definately even less welcome.

You deserve everything you got in my responses coming here ruining a friendly chat about flying space craft with your nasty talk of banning me personally . The chances are Id never have come anywhere near you. There was no need for you to talk about banning anyone in this thread you could have just gone ahead and done it but you you had to mark your territory and shout asbout it like some shabby onlline big cat urinating to mark its position in the world.

By the way I hope the people who designed the ship which is a masterpiece of design take you to task to for decrying their work.

Youre exactly the sort of unfriendly person sl DOESNT need.

Why dont you build a mega prim wall around your land and go and languish in there like the sad case you are ?

Correction - masterpiece of design = primmy load of waste

They can whine all they want, doesn't change the fact I spoke

Why don't you stay on public land and land that people let you go on, and not try to get land others pay for open to you for free?

I gave a counter to your argument for lowering banlines - you know, as in, you have no right to ask them to since it isn't your investment?

And why dont you go and soak your head - youre clearly unimaginative , unfriendly and anti social good luck in sl.

oh dear I see from your profile you boast of owning a concubine - kind of speaks for itself doesnt it. Im being harangued by a man who boasts of 'owning ' a person.

When I had my skyclub it had my patent 1 prim 'levitron' underneath to keep it aloft and also in position! I must remember to find it and use it on my current sky platform.

If I fly anywhere I always put on my jetpack, heat resistant safety suit and crash helmet. I know I could manage without but.......

The exception is when I need to fly to get out of trouble like if I fall in a ravine or something.

I believe this is called a 'strawman' - you can't attack my logical debate so you attack me.

Obviously she's submissive and willing, and I'm dominant.

Want to try to prove what I said wrong? Focus on it. Attacking a non-traditional relationship issue is about as nonsequiter as you can get, not to mention a pretty sad way to try to win a debate.

I like the sound of your levitron - I use a 'counter- newton' anti gravity system myself.

If anyone who's expert in scripts could show me how to make the beam glow Id be very grateful and recompense their assistance

While I wouldn't phrase it quite as strongly as Banking, his point is valid.
There are tonnes of open areas in SL for you to fly your big-ass spaceship. You just have to look for them.
Your call to lower banlines and complaints about plots being full, thus stopping you from flying over them is a little out of line. What you are suggesting is a restriction on what people pay for. They pay tier etc for that land that you want to use for free and have been given the privilege of banning those that they wish to. There are reasons for banlines, some of them very valid.
For you to suggest that people should somehow "save" prims so that you can fly over their land is a little self-entitled.
As I said, there ARE places for you to fly to your hearts content. Just not over someone else's land. D'you dig where I'm coming from? Some people will allow it, I'm one of them. You don't get to demand it, though.


Oh, and the personal attacks? They do nothing for your case.

'Obviously she's submissive and willing, and I'm dominant. '

You sound more like some big cat protecting its territory and mate every second...in my book youre an oaf and belong back in the middle ages.

As for any personal comments they are purely retaliatory..maybe a little school playground of me but when someone talks about banning me and decrying my belonging - the hard work of another sl craftsmen Im afraid Im going to bite back.

Actually, it's an "ad hominem", not a "straw man" *grin*

That would be a wonderful suggestion for a home theme, but my avatar is a asexual cyberdemon who uses stomach tentacles as sexual organs. May techno-mideival.

Oh, and I made a nice suggestion in your TARDIS thread, might want to look into it.



Thank you. either way in bad taste though.

Why would I want to bother reading your attempts to ruin yet another thread???

Ruining what? Let me quote, and maybe you should assume less.

I thought it was going to be fun contributing to this forum but when you have people of bankings calibre I really dont see the point.

Another personal attack. This time I'm going to mention it to the resmods.

Take it to a combat sim instead!

Ban me too then I don't want to accidently tarnish my image by even stepping on your lands or purchasing from you with your attitude.

I thought you kinda started this one.. It _was_ a friendly conversation.

LL allows people not on access lists to pass over land as long as they're at least 50m up. You may think you own your airspace all the way to the moon but LL apparently doesn't quite agree.

actually the most stupid thing in here is that Banking Laws thinks he owns anything, you don't you pay for storage space in a server and any space left over is used for someone/thing else the only space you can possibly call 'owned' is the space you and your objects occupy, so all other space is none of your concern.

Well, yes and no.

It might be a different definition, but for all intents and purposes, inasmuch as you can own anything in SL, you do, in fact own your land.
You pay SL for a service, call it a little space on a server, call it whatever you want. LL defines it as ownership. Anything else is just semantics.

Within that agreement is the ability to ban people from your land, for whatever reason you want.

I noticed the OP decided to drop the discussion of this, ignoring my post, as well as Banking's points, in order to get into a flame war. Nice.

"You may think you own your airspace all the way to the moon but LL apparently doesn't quite agree."

Now THAT is a straw man.

People "own" their land yes (and I do), so are allowed to ban whomever they wish.

However, the intent was to ban troublemakers (ie grifers) and the lot. To ban someone because they ~might~ fly harmlessly over yoru land....ummm....if people are that anti-social, what are they doing in a social VR world?

You can't even say buisness reasons there, because buisness people are (usually) the msot social. They have to be or their buidness fails from being rude.

Thankfully, the other 99.9999999999% of SL have better things to do than to ban people that ~may~ be taking up their prims for all of 10 seconds. Most also have better things to do than to start flamatory posts just to get a reaction and report it.

Though, no, I don't agree with the personal attacks (though they were provoked), nor with making any changes to the SL land infanstructure. Not short of what Havok4 might preclude. After H4, it might be a moot argument as prims might take on a whole different aspect *Shrugs* Have to wait and see there.

~Jessy

It's less about being antisocial and more about people imposing what they want on other people.

I have over half of the sim that I'm in and don't put up banlines. However, I DO take issue with someone telling me that I should have to let them on, that I should not use all the prims allowable, to lower my banlines should I choose to put them up.

Basically, I pay for that server space that those that don't like semantics games call land.
That gives me the right, or privilege or whatever else you want to call it, to allow who I wish onto the land. Just me. The OP doesn't get to choose who gets to go onto my land.

Dig where I'm coming from?

Well I must say this thread brings back memories . And I see a few familiar names .

Closed parcel bans are limited to 250m above ground level. There are very good reasons for this and accessibility to parcels on the other side of them is one of those reasons. Imagine if you would owning a parcel and bans were set to 768 on all parcels surrounding that parcel. This would effectively make that parcel inaccessible to all.

The 250m was a compromise. Ages ago it was 50m. But it was raised to appease certain demanding "owners". At the same time the specific bans, which at one time were also limited, were also extended to 768. Seemed a fair compromise. But then along came certain abusive devices that used scripts in attempts to circumvent the 250m limit on general bans by manipulating the specific ban list and other attacks like llTeleportHome (which should be eliminated from LSL, imo). So the attempt to meet everyone's needs resulted in abusive workarounds used to the benefit of those who's demands LL tried to work with.

The only thing I can suggest here is that if you are flying above 250 agl and get hit with a teleport home (the most abusive form of attack from these devices) you should attempt to return to the offending location and AR the person responsible. These devices should be stopped. The 250 agl limit was put there for a reason. Using scripts to work around it should be viewed as a violation.

As I said in the earlier discussion, the claim that you should be able to ban overpassing at high altitudes is not a lot different than saying I should in RL be able to ban airplanes from flying up in the sky over my house.

I was personally flogged in effigy in the last discussion on this topic and I am sure a few keyboards are already warming up. Go ahead. Make my day .

Now, with all of that said, to the original poster I must say: 1000 prims?? ROFLMAO!!!!! There aren't many parcels on the main grid at all that COULD handle that load.

Is llTeleportHome against the rules? Is it ARable to use? If not, why would you recommend ARing someone for it?