One of the things I love in SL is flying my huge Space Liners/ cruisers...sadly this joy is usually either prematurely curtailed by hitting a parcel which is 'PRIM-full', hitting someone's ban lines or rezzing my ship so that a part of it is 'overhanging' someone elses land so that bits start returning to my 'lost and found' before I can move it.
Im sure Im not alone in wanting the 'freedom of the skies' and for that matter a large area to drive my car in. So - just as a suggestion - why dont lindens keep an area of say nine centrally placed sims free for those who PURELY want to fly big spacecraft or drive fast cars in...make one of the nine sims totally water based and if any one has an ocean line, nuclear submarine or aircraft carrier they wont feel left out...
AND lets have a cut off point for ban lines. Lets say 500 metres so that people can fly freely whether they are in an aircraft of any kind or simply 'flapping their arms'.
Maybe Lindens could even go so far as to put an outer atmosphere around the world which is open to anyones flying machines.
Im also wondering if there are any feasible plans to let us fly to the moon we can see at night and allow us to colonise it .
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 08:31
Come check out the SHOPPING region, type in SHOPPING under MAPS button. You are welcome to fly there anytime. There should never be ban lines within those 13 sims.
hey great imagination on the moon landing idea!! lol _____________________
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Carolyn Crosley
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Great Idea!!!!
09-29-2007 08:33
I for one would LOVE to see the options you mentioned!!!!!! I'm a big Sci-Fi fan and being able to fly large space craft and especially take a trip to the moon or other planets would be fantastic!!!!!!
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Taylor Meness
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09-29-2007 08:37
/me imagines LL capitalising on the whole outer space concept, with hundreds of planets owned by residents cluttering up the sky and shudders.
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ALQamaR Yosuke
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09-29-2007 08:38
Hi
I enjoy flying in SL as well and get fed up with either being ejected or getting hit with parcel full messages. I recently moved to CAVANAUGH and near there are about 20 linden protected water sims. Look for BOHOL in the middle of the water sims, which is a small island where you can you rez your aircraft or spaceship! You can then fly around this area without any problems. Happy flying! |
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 08:44
Excellent news I'll come for a visit . However Im talking about HUGE 1000 prim space craft here would they still be welcome (I promise not to use my energy cannons
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09-29-2007 08:48
Quote - 'me imagines LL capitalising on the whole outer space concept, with hundreds of planets owned by residents cluttering up the sky and shudders.'
the sky is pretty cluttered and I agree some sky boxes look awful - especially those ludicrous gravity defying ones that dont even seem to have as much as a winged elephant keeping them aloft However Im talking about HIGH altitudes of 700 metres and up where - unless your eyes have the abilities of a telescope- they shouldn't pose any problem at all. |
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ALQamaR Yosuke
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09-29-2007 08:49
Excellent news I'll come for a visit . However Im talking about HUGE 1000 prim space craft here would they still be welcome (I promise not to use my energy cannons )Wow that is big - lol. I got a 100 + prim Osprey seems tiny in comparison. |
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 08:56
You should visit the Alcyon space ship building yard trully one of the most astounding places in SL the ships have to be seen to be believed.
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ALQamaR Yosuke
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09-29-2007 09:01
You should visit the Alcyon space ship building yard trully one of the most astounding places in SL the ships have to be seen to be believed. Thanks! Will check it out. |
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Innes McLeod
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09-29-2007 09:12
One of the things I love in SL is flying my huge Space Liners/ cruisers...sadly this joy is usually either prematurely curtailed by hitting a parcel which is 'PRIM-full', hitting someone's ban lines or rezzing my ship so that a part of it is 'overhanging' someone elses land so that bits start returning to my 'lost and found' before I can move it. ... AND lets have a cut off point for ban lines. Lets say 500 metres so that people can fly freely whether they are in an aircraft of any kind or simply 'flapping their arms'. I agree about the problems you were mentioning. The 'parcel full' is quite annoying when it returns your ship right out from under you. Usually you wind up needing to relog to get things back to normal after that. Ban lines are limited to 40 meters above ground level, unless your name is specifically in the ban list, then they extend 768 meters above the ground. However it appears that 'no object entry' extends up infinitely. |
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 09:52
Warp factor set to 45 metres then Mr Sulu
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Sindy Tsure
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09-29-2007 09:56
What gets me about full parcels is that SL's not consistent in how it deals with them. Just passing over one in a sim isn't too horrible. Passing into a different sim with a full parcel on the edge is a crap shoot - sometimes the vehicle gets returned and passengers end up who-knows-where, sometimes it works fine..
 Ban lines are limited to 40 meters above ground level I'm pretty sure access-only parcels aren't safe until 50m.. |
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09-29-2007 10:06
Quote - I'm pretty sure access-only parcels aren't safe until 50m..
Arent these ban lines elevated by things like so called 'mega walls' ? |
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Oberon Onmura
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09-29-2007 10:09
There is a work-around to the 'parcel full' problem if your ship has 'modify' permissions. Rez your ship, then 'edit' it - in the 'Object' tab select 'Temporary.' Then go back out of edit mode.
You'll have a few moments (varies sim by sim) to 'Sit' in your craft before it un-rezzes. But once you are sitting, it will never unrez until you stand again. Temporary objects do not count against the prim count so you can enter sims that are full, or near full, with no trouble. This isn't a theory. I do it all the time! But you do need 'modify' perms to make it work. |
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09-29-2007 10:12
That sounds great !!!
Does your ship need an anti-matter control core with optional matter stabiliser to do it though.... because I believe they've just had v.a.t. put on them  |
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Innes McLeod
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09-29-2007 10:12
Warp factor set to 45 metres then Mr Sulu Thanks for the Info Just remember.. thats 40 meters above the ground, not above sea level. If the ground is around 65 meters like it is in my sim the normal ban lines are up to around 100 to 105 meters. |
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 10:13
Ah that explains it...
Maybe a quick burst with the old photon torpedoes |
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Jessica Elytis
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09-29-2007 10:17
If you are specifically banned from a parcel (ie, your name is on the Banned Avatar list) then the ban lines go up to infinity.
However, if the parcel is jsut banned to restrict access, the ban lines extend 50m above the land. Not 50m altitude along the Z axis, but 50m above the land. That means if someone restricted access and then terriformed the land up to 200m, then the ban lines extend to 250m. As for flying from sim to sim and with full-prim parcels.....we all might want to wait until this new engine with Havok4 goes in. It's sure to change a lot of things, esspecially on physics and prim movement. ~Jessy _____________________
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Banking Laws
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09-29-2007 12:15
One of the things I love in SL is flying my huge Space Liners/ cruisers...sadly this joy is usually either prematurely curtailed by hitting a parcel which is 'PRIM-full', hitting someone's ban lines or rezzing my ship so that a part of it is 'overhanging' someone elses land so that bits start returning to my 'lost and found' before I can move it. Im sure Im not alone in wanting the 'freedom of the skies' and for that matter a large area to drive my car in. So - just as a suggestion - why dont lindens keep an area of say nine centrally placed sims free for those who PURELY want to fly big spacecraft or drive fast cars in...make one of the nine sims totally water based and if any one has an ocean line, nuclear submarine or aircraft carrier they wont feel left out... AND lets have a cut off point for ban lines. Lets say 500 metres so that people can fly freely whether they are in an aircraft of any kind or simply 'flapping their arms'. Maybe Lindens could even go so far as to put an outer atmosphere around the world which is open to anyones flying machines. Im also wondering if there are any feasible plans to let us fly to the moon we can see at night and allow us to colonise it . You don't pay for the land others own/rent. I personally thing group ban lines should go to 768 - the highest you can build at and be stable. I'm going to ban you by name from mine though, because those bans do go to 768. You don't pay for my land, therefore you have no right to be on it, I grant no flying rights over it (have object entry, flight, scripting, everything turned off for nongroup too, so you'd get stuck then autoreturned anyway). You have no rights to fly over any land except your own and Linden land unless the user paying for it grants you that right. Get over it. The prims are also theirs to use, and count from ground level up to the sky, they pay for them, not you, so you have no right to ask for people to leave you prim allotment - unless you want to pay for it. _____________________
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 12:19
You don't pay for the land others own/rent. I personally thing group ban lines should go to 768 - the highest you can build at and be stable. I'm going to ban you by name from mine though, because those bans do go to 768. You don't pay for my land, therefore you have no right to be on it, I grant no flying rights over it (have object entry, flight, scripting, everything turned off for nongroup too, so you'd get stuck then autoreturned anyway). You have no rights to fly over any land except your own and Linden land unless the user paying for it grants you that right. Get over it. The prims are also theirs to use, and count from ground level up to the sky, they pay for them, not you, so you have no right to ask for people to leave you prim allotment - unless you want to pay for it. How singularly obnoxious and unpleasant of you. You nasty territorial piece of work. |
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09-29-2007 12:21
You can always count on venom from someone on the web cant you ?
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Banking Laws
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09-29-2007 12:22
How singularly obnoxious and unpleasant of you. You nasty territorial piece of work. I payed for the land, not you. First rights go to property owner\renters. You're the one acting as if you have the right to rez that horrid thing (that I cover when people leave them in sandboxes to show off) over my land. Until I see some repayment for the use coming from you based on an equitable agreement for us both, then you are not in any way priviledged over my land. You can always count on venom from someone on the web cant you ? Yes, you can. See the above quote from you. I didn't attack, you did. _____________________
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 12:22
I imagine you have anti aircraft guns aimed at airliners over flying your real land too. LOL.
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Maelstrom Janus
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09-29-2007 12:24
Can your 'payed' for land be inserted anally.? go and try it for me will you ? Let me know what sort of luck you have.
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