Bad news of the day: They're thinking of merging the Teen Grid into the main one

exactly..kids don't know just how much trouble they can bring to a persons life..

some just do it for laughs or for kicks and bragging rights..
it's not gonna be Disney by any means ..it's gonna be the invasion of leet speak and the attitudes that come with it..
i know not all kids will be like that and there are some that act mature for their age but look at the griefers right now..i just pictures all kinds of it now..this is just not a good thing at all..

Gteam? AR? What makes you think the "victim" will be contacting LL about this? Won't the person's parent just contact the police directly?

Are they going to give all the over 18 users a large weekly payment for babysitting services?

If I got to babysit the kids, I damn well better get paid for it.

A friend of mine, a Male music teacher had it happen. One of his kids was very talented but came from a bad home environment. He did a lot to further her talents, never crossing any lines of proprietary, but the girl had her issues and the crap hit the metronome. Because this was a well to do district and he was a bit of an oddball in a Jack Black sort of way, he was crucified and damn near destroyed. It was not until the girl herself was put on the stand that she admitted that nothing had happened. Even though he was cleared, his career as a teacher was over. It took some time, but he won out in the end, and won a substantial judgement.

Nope. Lawyer first, then the cops.

Nope. TV. Then Lawyer. Then Cops.

Don't worry, Fox and Sky will already be preparing their reports for when their ace undercover reporters pose as kids.

How are you going to ban me by IP address as the sim owner if you don't know my IP address? Is your suggestion that sim (or estate owners) should have immediate access to IP addresses? That would clear a lot of people out of SL faster than merging the grids. If you can call the address, so can programmed bots.

They can send them to the furniture stores using mannequins on the furniture to show off the poses. Just think of the horror of a child like av next to a bed in a store where the bots are getting it on in public.

doesn't have to show the ip address to the estate owner, can be done in the background.

Ban by ip address on a menu, doesn't show the ip address at all

I missed the context here so I'm not sure I understand the question, but any parcel owner gets your IP address (and some other information) if you turn on any streaming media on their parcel. When you turn on music or video, your computer is directly contacting someone's server outside of Second Life - not a Linden Lab server.

It's not a big leap to add a feature to the Viewer where you can turn on/off the option to give your IP address to the parcel owner directly (without using media). And then an option on the server to "Not Allow Hidden IP Avatars" on the land.

Actually, it might be possible to script this right now. An object senses you on the parcel and tells the media server about your avatar. The media server then checks to see if you have requested a stream. If you did turn on streaming, the server (or the object) checks your IP address on the blacklist, and the object boots you. If you did not, the object gives tells you that you have 15 seconds to turn on streaming or be booted. Something like that.

To steal from the Get Fuzzy comic strip, metro gnomes should be able to handle the crap.

Right, forgot that important step! Alert the media, then contact the lawyer, then your accountant, then the cops.

I dislike the idea of virtual class's as is. Kids can't even learn in a real school let alone a virtual one. Also be infinitely easier to cheat as google is a click away. Maybe I just don't get it. If LL wants to promote education then they should be gathering colleges and high schools and whatever other educational institutions and asking for donations to run an all education grid and remove it from SL all together and design that grid just for education. In RL Education is removed from entertainment venues for a reason. So people can concentrate on that education.


Merging the teen grid just seem dumb. Let's just call it there.com and be done with it.

Well, first of all, I have never had anyone use music or video on my sim. Second, if a visitor was on my sim and I was there and able to check his or her IP address, then I know one person's IP address for a moment. If they have a stable IP address, I wouldn't know it (unless they came back). I would have to, at best, assume they have a router that may keep it current for a week or so. Maybe they have a fixed IP address, but I would have to check several times over a period of time to be certain.

If there is a call that lets me check any resident for their IP address at any time (necessary for management - 10 people were on my sim yesterday and only one was there when I was), I can poll their IP address to see if it remains stable over time. While that may not mean much to me as I don't do some of the things I see from the inside of the firewall, a person running a bot to collect IP addresses could use the info for more than just what happens in SL. And anything a sim manager can do can be done by a bot registered as the sim manager.

Would it be abused? Yeah, IMO, sooner or later. Someone might decide it would be fun to spoof some of the IPs they collect, among other things. Love to be AR'd for what a bot did that was registered through my IP address.

I have my own.

As Mort said, I don't need your IP or care to know it. However, if you are a child bent on disrupting things or inviting adult conversation where you don't need to be...then I want the ability to KEEP you out for good.

Frankly I should have that ability already with chronic grid offenders who insist on harrassment. We pay a great deal of money to run these sims and should be offered more controls.....but thats a whole other subject.

I am dealing with a level of traffic that is often difficult to deal with. I often am policing 80 plus avatars at one time. I can't image how much more difficullt that will be with children thrown into the mix.

Which is why I recommend people NOT DO THAT unless they don't care who has their IP address. And given the overall complexity of the SL client and the fact that there's been at least one and possibly two forced upgrades due to remote execution attacks on the client... I recommend people care.
Yes, Linden Labs might be stupid enough to implement that.
I'd AR them on the grounds that they were probably fishing for computers to attack for their botnet.

I DON'T WANT ANYONES IP!

However, if they implement a grid merge, I want the ability, and a heavy traffic sim owner....to BAN via IP....not to see it.

You're not Feldspar Millgrove.

I dont understand the whole tie in on IP addresses here.... What has that to do with age of a person using it? If my daughter decided to logon whilist I was away.. had her own account and the LL merged the two grids... You would ban ME as well as her using the ban IP address. SO I honestly do not see where that even comes into play for verifying if a person is an adult or not.....And if verify by IP is how SL does it...it is indeed a flawed system...I verified a long time ago. So if this is how it is loged then my daughter will be subject to things she is NOT ready to handle..


I can see it won't matter what the users of the service want, as proof on the openspace fiasco... Plenty protested and gave valid reasons this should not be implimented, but our pleas fell on deaf ears..

I do not see this children spending money .... I see a generation of freebie freeloaders, bots, campers and potential griefers only.

Perhaps contact the media right now and getitng reactions from communities NOW might make a difference.. But once the two combine... It will only be a matter of time before legal papers are served, falsly or valid, on LL and someone else..

Don't put the kids at risk! OMG look around at the perverts on here.. do you honestly think they will stay away from the kids??

And the minute the adult nature of this world is taken out, I am out of here....

I signed onto there.com or whatever it was.. and SL will be no better than that service where you have to have everything you build or make submitted for approval.. PFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

And yes there is a CCR song in this...... bad moon on the rise..

the parcel owner doesn't get their IP..that would be a dj or whoever is running the server for the music..i believe.

Is this seriously going to happen?

That would be absurd.

There's a bathroom on the right.....? There's a fat dude out tonight...?

Well, I will! I mean, um...

Lot of weather we're having...?