would u consider quitting second life if performance doesnt improve?

Been a while since you've played, has it? We haven't had concurrency issues in quite some time now, since at least around February-March of this year.

No it doesn't.

SL regularly runs with over 60,000 users online, and was hitting 80,000 before the bot policy earlier this year. I think the grid has gone "poof" (as in it got bad enough they closed logins) maybe twice this year.

uh huh... and that's why almost every weekend we have TP's that don't go through, assets that won't load, or the occasional all out asset server failures.

Why do people care about prime time?

Performance and overall grid stability is far far better than it was when I joined in early 2007. I see no reason to run due to that (plenty of other reasons maybe).

The things that make SL "not ready for prime time" are the things that make it worth OUR time.

ready for Prime time means there is no effect at all... not they closed logins... if SL was prime time ready there would never be a failed Teleport, or when trying to modify a script get told upload failed (over and over... not just a one time thing at random)...

Either I have really bad luck with the asset servers (along with my friends) ... or people gloss over the fact there are issue's with Saint can't do nothing wrong Secondlife.

Unfortunately it's a love hate relationship since there is nothing close to it for social interactions.

SL has technical issues, but it also has compelling content that keeps me logging on. Blue Mars can be technically perfect, but it has no compelling content.

In general, I think I agree with this. But Blue Mars appears also to have a DIFFERENT kind of content, in the form of participation from some pretty big name educational institutions. The kind of content, in fact, that LL would probably kill to have on board here.

Blue Mars doesn't really have much content at all right now. Maybe it will have that stuff down the road, but now it's an empty shell.

It's closer to being IMVU than Second Life.

Ewwwwwwww . . .

ETA: I don't know if I ever mentioned . . . my local 7/11 sells prepaid IMVU cards . . .

I mean, WTF?????

I tend to be skeptical when companies claim how great things will be down the road. It seems like they always overpromise and underdeliver.

Yeh, I saw that. That's why I opened a Jira for LL to sell SL premium account cards in grocery stores.

Aren't you contradicting yourself here a bit Argent? You don't care that SL "Isn't ready for Prime Time" but you do want to see SL account cards being sold at Walmart.

No. I've survived much, much worse from SL. Y'all shoulda been here in 2004 when we went down for DAYS after an update.

Pfft.

Sissies.

There will be more help to the content creator, including the media API, but also possibilities for the creator to sell its products trough a mecanism which will be inspired by iTunes appstore portal.

Thanks Dana!

Interesting, and much along the lines of what I had thought. But how exactly is BM supposed to develop in the direction of adult content, if no mature or adult content is allowed? I suppose it will, as always, come down to money.

To be honest, BM sounds to me very interesting in some regards, and rather sterile in others. And I wonder if jumping ship from SL because one doesn't like the new corporate approach here might not be leaping from the frying pan into the fire: BM's set-up sounds VERY corporate, and very top-down, to me.

You may be ready for Blue Mars . . . but is Blue Mars ready for Jumpman?

What's your sense of what the culture is going to be like there? Because MY impression, based admittedly just on my reading, is that it's going to be a lot less freewheeling and tolerant than SL. I wonder just exactly what kinds of content and behaviours they are going to allow?

That's a serious question, btw. Does anyone have a clearer sense of how "open" Blue Mars is likely to be to, just to name the most obvious thing, the sort of "adult" content still permitted in SL?

Wow.... I'm running a lowly nVidia 8600M-GS on a laptop - Ultra settings - running Linux - and my FPS *never* gets down that low! While I concede there have been framerate issues with the latest viewer, I have to think there's something wrong with your configuration if you're going down that low.

I also have to wonder why you're running antialiasing at 16x. That's overkill. I don't notice any difference between 4x and 8x except for slight loss of performance and textures with more-blurred edges. All you're really accomplishing with 16x AA is to soften edges into oblivion. Why do that to yourself? Take it down to 4x and enjoy the extra FPS you get from it.

To answer your original question: I'm not overly pleased with the performance of SL's grid right now. They had a good thing going back with the v1.22 viewers and v1.25 server. They had to go and muck it all up with this Adult Content fiasco. However, despite all of this, I still find the game playable and enjoyable. I'm not going anywhere for a while.

Hey Jump! Fwiw, I don't use 1.23 at all, it's craptastic in a few ways. I use either 1.22 when I need stability or, if I need features or need to run on an old lappie, Emerald.

It's quite possible that something's wrong with your setup. Crank up an alt who has permission to speak standard english and start a thread asking for ideas.

Besides, weren't you the guy pimping for the "support LL" group just a week or so ago? C'mon, we know you're wedded to the place! You'd miss us all, not to speak of your Slut gig, terribly!