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Oryx Tempel
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03-05-2008 10:23
From: Walker Moore In my mind, it was right to correct incorrect speculation like this: ...because it didn't suggest CEOP had identified a specific problem at all. In actual fact, both Sky News and Five.tv broke the SL/Wonderland story at the end of October, and when their journalist approached CEOP CEO Jim Gamble for his response, that was his statement. Likewise, the "substantial volume of legal and psychological case history suggesting a link between immersive fantasy and subsequent RL action" doesn't exist. There was no vague language used there... so I can understand why that would be a point of contention. To be accused of "playing silly games" and being "ill informed" after correcting that kind of speculation surprised me, but admittedly, I could have handled those unprovoked slurs a little better afterwards, and I do apologise to Stephen for responding in kind. Completely understood. He did still say "would seem" which isn't super conclusive in my mind... 
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Walker Moore
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03-05-2008 10:25
From: Oryx Tempel Completely understood. He did still say "would seem" which isn't super conclusive in my mind...  Agree with me 110% dammit! j/k 
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Swan Legend
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03-05-2008 10:26
From: Jackson Rickenbacker News Media is a vulture, they will take anything and twist it into a story, I would imagine that the reporter himself shoul dbe implicated in something before anyone else, sounds like to me he was soliciting simulated child sex, just be cause your a journalist doesnt mean you can do things in the name of journalism i think he should be forced to give up his chat logs so everyone can see the entrapment for themselves. then we should boot his ass from Second Life.
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Isabeau Imako
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03-05-2008 10:26
From: Brenda Connolly I must live in a really quiet neighborhood The worse thing that has ever happened to me was being bumped and dragged. When I tried to step out of the way (thinking "How rude"  , they turned around and did it again so I knew it wasn't an accident. That's it. And it really bothered me, for about 2 minutes. Groups of naked people with horses raining down? WTF? Rebecca, either you are truly very, very unlucky to have all these things happen to you, or you're lying. I'm sorry, I find what you describe as your experiences to be incredible. I will assume for the moment that you're unlucky.
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Brenda Connolly
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03-05-2008 10:26
From: Rebecca Proudhon I've found it less bizarre on the mainland then on the private island sims. My island must be the OldFolk's Home then..i did have that one neighbor, the Vamp Lady with the huge ugly castle who had the boyfriend who was into strange things.......
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-05-2008 10:26
From: Swan Legend are you really this ugly inside? What part of "REST OF THE WORLD" do you not understand?
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Colette Meiji
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03-05-2008 10:29
From: Brenda Connolly My island must be the OldFolk's Home then..i did have that one neighbor, the Vamp Lady with the huge ugly castle who had the boyfriend who was into strange things....... In my defense her boyfriend didn't tell me he was into that stuff until we were in the MIDDLE of having sex.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-05-2008 10:29
From: Brenda Connolly My island must be the OldFolk's Home then..i did have that one neighbor, the Vamp Lady with the huge ugly castle who had the boyfriend who was into strange things....... I had an ugly castle and a "boyfriend" that I found was into strange things. Small World.
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Victorria Paine
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03-05-2008 10:30
From: Isabeau Imako Rebecca, either you are truly very, very unlucky to have all these things happen to you, or you're lying. I'm sorry, I find what you describe as your experiences to be incredible. I will assume for the moment that you're unlucky.
It does sound very unlucky to me as well -- I have never seen ageplay at all in SL, for example, and I've lived on islands and the mainland, and have been involved in "minority sexual activity" for most of the time, but still I haven't come across it once. The only instance I saw of bestiality was a place where I knew it was going to be present, and I was curious to see what the place was about -- it's not my thing, so I didn't stay long, but outside of that, I haven't seen much of that at all in SL either.
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Swan Legend
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03-05-2008 10:30
From: Rebecca Proudhon What part of "REST OF THE WORLD" do you not understand? you really are ugly inside. please dont yell at me im not deaf or stupid.
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Kira Cuddihy
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03-05-2008 10:34
From: Victorria Paine It does sound very unlucky to me as well -- I have never seen ageplay at all in SL, for example, and I've lived on islands and the mainland, and have been involved in "minority sexual activity" for most of the time, but still I haven't come across it once. The only instance I saw of bestiality was a place where I knew it was going to be present, and I was curious to see what the place was about -- it's not my thing, so I didn't stay long, but outside of that, I haven't seen much of that at all in SL either. Oh gawd, I have and I am a sweet innocent thing.
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Ann Launay
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03-05-2008 10:34
From: Rebecca Proudhon Okay you quoted Stephan saying: "you all come off sounding like the conflicted and slightly delusional minority that is the rest of the worlds stereotypical view of an SL citizen.
You're all right .. the world is nasty and vile and horrible and doesn't understand you at all." Yes, here he is being defensive now after being flamed and his posts spun...... I quoted the post YOU quoted while lauding him for being so objective and non-judgmental. Perhaps you should have chosen a different one to support your assessment. From: someone and yes I have to agree, that those flames and spins, do sound "like the conflicted and slightly delusional minority that is the rest of the worlds stereotypical view of an SL citizen." That just makes you judgmental too...unless you've gone out and polled the rest of the world to get their point of view. 
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-05-2008 10:35
From: Victorria Paine It does sound very unlucky to me as well -- I have never seen ageplay at all in SL, for example, and I've lived on islands and the mainland, and have been involved in "minority sexual activity" for most of the time, but still I haven't come across it once. The only instance I saw of bestiality was a place where I knew it was going to be present, and I was curious to see what the place was about -- it's not my thing, so I didn't stay long, but outside of that, I haven't seen much of that at all in SL either. Well then I was unlucky or maybe more observant.
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Colette Meiji
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03-05-2008 10:36
From: Rebecca Proudhon I had an ugly castle and a "boyfriend" that I found was into strange things. Small World. I sure hope it wasn't Rebecca who was your neighbor, Brenda.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-05-2008 10:39
From: Ann Launay I quoted the post YOU quoted while lauding him for being so objective and non-judgmental. Perhaps you should have chosen a different one to support your assessment. That just makes you judgmental too...unless you've gone out and polled the rest of the world to get their point of view.  You don't honestly need a poll, to know that the "rest of the world" will disapprove of sexual ageplay, in virtual imagery.
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Walker Moore
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03-05-2008 10:40
From: Victorria Paine It does sound very unlucky to me as well -- I have never seen ageplay at all in SL, for example, and I've lived on islands and the mainland, and have been involved in "minority sexual activity" for most of the time, but still I haven't come across it once. The only instance I saw of bestiality was a place where I knew it was going to be present, and I was curious to see what the place was about -- it's not my thing, so I didn't stay long, but outside of that, I haven't seen much of that at all in SL either. What constitutes bestiality in SL? Human av with furrie av? If you just disable prims from the debug menus, doesn't it just become good ole regular sex again? Maybe they should change the label on that menu to "bestiality on/off".  --- But srsly, like you, I've never come across sexual ageplay in SL.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-05-2008 10:42
From: Colette Meiji I sure hope it wasn't Rebecca who was your neighbor, Brenda. If so then she was blissfully unaware of the goings on, as I was for a while till someone told me to up my draw distance and turn off camera constraints. My Sl was small fishbowl for some time.
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Ann Launay
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03-05-2008 10:43
From: Rebecca Proudhon You don't honestly need a poll, to know that the "rest of the world" will disapprove of sexual ageplay, in virtual imagery. Sloppy defense. What about all of the counties where it's still perfectly normal for girls marry at 12 and 13? Or Japanese Hentai? There seems to be a lot of underage action going on there. Western cultural norms do not apply to the entire world.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Victorria Paine
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03-05-2008 10:45
From: Walker Moore What constitutes bestiality in SL? Human av with furrie av? If you just disable prims from the debug menus, doesn't it just become good ole regular sex again? Maybe they should change the label on that menu to "bestiality on/off".  --- Hehe, I guess I don't "count" furry (or semi-furry) AVs as bestiality, but then again it's a question of perspective.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-05-2008 10:46
From: Ann Launay Sloppy defense. What about all of the counties where it's still perfectly normal for girls marry at 12 and 13? Or Japanese Hentai? There seems to be a lot of underage action going on there. Western cultural norms do not apply to the entire world. Well Japan is a special case---and i've been there many times. Besides, there is plenty of social uproar concern in Japan about it.
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Colette Meiji
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03-05-2008 10:49
From: Rebecca Proudhon If so then she was blissfully unaware of the goings on, as I was for a while till someone told me to up my draw distance and turn off camera constraints. My Sl was small fishbowl for some time. You wouldn't have known Brenda was your neighbor because your draw distance was too small? 
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Colette Meiji
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03-05-2008 10:50
From: Victorria Paine Hehe, I guess I don't "count" furry (or semi-furry) AVs as bestiality, but then again it's a question of perspective. Heck you cant even get people on here to tell you if its yiffing or not to cyber a furry as a human Av.
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Kira Muse
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03-05-2008 10:53
From: Deunan Pink The only UK media to comment on SL today that I have come across was a piece on the BBC PM radio programme about an hour ago that questioned whether jihadist groups may use VR worlds for organising terrorism.
Imagine that. If all the worthless 'Jihadists' were all wrapped up into playing SL, they wouldn't have time to strap on real bomb-belts. They could simply pretend with *virtual* ones!
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Brenda Connolly
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03-05-2008 10:56
From: Swan Legend i think he should be forced to give up his chat logs so everyone can see the entrapment for themselves. then we should boot his ass from Second Life. Hmmmm......... lynchmob anyone? No, LINDEN can look at his logs if they desire, they don't have to use any force at all, and decide to end his Second Life if they wish. But I suspect siince these people usually sign up for this specific purpose, they won't be exactly hanging out much anyway.
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Ann Launay
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03-05-2008 11:00
From: Rebecca Proudhon Well Japan is a special case---and i've been there many times. Besides, there is plenty of social uproar concern in Japan about it. You completely sidestepped the point. You can't run around declaring you know what the 'rest of the world' would think or do when there are so very many different cultural standards to consider.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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