Racism is tolerated

/me whips off her pants and waves them in salute

Sounds more like nationalism than racism.

If it were racism he would be going after Americans also since America is made up of all races.


Actual racism is prevented in the community standards under the section on intolerance. Nationalism isn't mentioned.

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Intolerance
Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life.
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However if his rantings are abusive to the point of harassment, it would be a violation

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Harassment
Given the myriad capabilities of Second Life, harassment can take many forms. Communicating or behaving in a manner which is offensively coarse, intimidating or threatening, constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors, or is otherwise likely to cause annoyance or alarm is Harassment.
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Brenda!

Exactly. This guy seems to have a problem with all foreigners in the USA, not folks of a different race, which many Americans are.

Nationalists aren't known for their diplomacy are they?

Not where I live anyway.

a few years ago i earned a living doing tattoos in real live. one day a neo-nazi came in and wanted a bunch of swatz stickers tattoo-ed on various places around his body. this troubled me. after discussing this with friends and thinking about it i diced to do. i made the tatt's giant so that people could see the jerk for who he was blocks away, so that other would see him and treat him appropriately. in my opinion people have a right to be jerks and i have right to either associate with him or not and to treat him as such. i personally hate PC and prefer to know where people stand that way i can decide how to treat them.

What do we expect? -

Our history and social studies text books are filled with nationalist propaganda, And as soon as people get out of school they go on spouting the same nonsense. It funnels to the Media and popular culture.

And its been that way in Most developed countries for a long time.

Of course this leads to an equal and opposite reaction where people realize there was propaganda and completely swing the other way and spout a bunch of anti-nationalist stuff thats also incorrect.

Meanwhile the truth about history and politics is blindly ignored by the majority of people in the world.

That hammer you're feeling is the hammer of logic, backed by the weight of decades of online history, tempered with the heat of life on the grid. Millennia of philosophical thought on the subject of ideal social behavior have a powerful grip.

So. Where liberties are exercised, there will always be conflict. Moderation of that conflict through procedural tools enforced by government formalizes but does not remove the conflict. Building additional sophistication into social moderation tools shifts the focus of activity but does not remove it, and due to both persistence and population churn, the pressure keeps up.

The Mute tool isn't intended to deal with defamation and incitement. Mute allows an individual to reasonably exercise freedom from persecution, whereas speech is the other kind of liberty. The SL tool that deals with perceived abuses of positive liberties is the AR. Due to the ability of Residents to game every automated method so far created, that's a tool best left in the hands of our benevolent dictator, Linden Lab.

There may be some very powerful reasons behind a perceived rise in the tendency of forum readers to champion speech. One is the distressing and increasingly blatant tendency of government in the land of liberty to act without the consent or moral support of citizens. This isn't a recent development, but they're not even being polite about it any more. Any perceived encroachments by governments on what liberties we have left produce a strong and violent reaction by the kind of people who naturally find their way into an experiment like SL. But not to derail.

I write all this even after Linden Lab has banned good friends and associates of mine individually and, in some cases, wholesale. Some have been banned due to group membership and social association, for actions that have taken place while they were away from SL. And, despite these abuses of power, I recognize that what we have is still the best possible system for the population as a whole, even if the dictator isn't all that benevolent due to the pressures they endure. Any system will be gamed by certain members of the population. And luckily, those who I believe are being unfairly forced out of SL now have a broad range of comparable alternatives.

Engineers don't test a bridge to destruction and then rebuild it. They have experience and a body of knowledge on their side. You're welcome to propose (JIRA!) different tools for social moderation, but I think you should probably do a hell of a lot of groundwork.

Wow, I totally skipped your post originally (tl;dr donchaknow)- but when I saw Amulya's response to it I had to come back and read it- and my response is: WTF??? Seriously. Dubya Tee Eff???

EDIT: Also, this RR person in the original complaint probably isn't much of a real racist or nationalist anyway. He's just a troll who knows what pisses people off and goes with it. Muting really is the best way to deal with these guys. They only exist to have an audience (even if their audience hates them). They hold up Abuse Reports like badges (check out the profiles of some SL trolls, they brag about how many times they've been ARed and banned).

"Positive freedom."

This should be a sticky. I love it.

Too much is made of this. Too much is made of mere words. Nowadays, everyone is so thin-skinned. You have to tip-toe around every group and every race. Being careful what you say about this group or that group because you'll be deemed a racist, homophobic and everything else under the stars.

You're suppose to be politically correct in what you say and the way you act. It's all so fake and phony. You have people trying to portray themselves as they feel others would want to see them. Trying to come across as caring, sensitive indiviuals when we all know everyone isn't like this and in the real world you have much, much worse.

Way too much time and effort is spent on issues such as these.

You did catch that most of the posters on this thread are arguing for the Nationalist guys right to spout off?

Your post is the hilarious inverse of Trout Recreant's argument that his last name sounded misleading and should be changed.

Totally agreed with you on how we're stuck pandering to the emotionally weak and hypersensitive.

You forgot to mention the bit where black folks are still enslaved and getting tossed to alligators.

I think I'll copy that post down, it's like a traffic accident.

I too believe that some push PC way too much, but I don't think I've personally felt 'stuck'.
You do have a choice, don't 'pander' and live with the consequences. At the end of the day, what ever you choose to say will probably rub someone the wrong way, anyway.

The guy's comments seemed more ignorant than hurtful. I don't see how anyone could be hurt by what he said - sounded more like rambling to me.

Sadly their is a whole of different degrees of intolerance here.
Tolerance and Respect is also a part of TOS.
Yet its amazing how many people figure that there are exceptions to this with their attitudes...
be it class-ism, elitism, racism, etc.
Those doing it most likely justify and would deny they were doing it.
Sadly not every offense against the TOS has the proper punishment against the offender or is even reported because
if it was I think there would several here who would be dealing
with either a warning or being banned on regular basis for violations around respect and tolerance.
Yet the good news is black avatars don't get followed around the stores with suspicion and assumption they are going to shoplift here in SL.

I figured that for just an unsubstantiated rant.

I still get the impression that most of the posters in this thread were not arguing for enforced political correctness.

I'm sure I have some vestigial racism and plenty of nationalism from living in the U.S., but honestly I don't feel speech-limited in that way. Yes, honesty has come back to bite me in the ass, but I don't spout offensive language either in FL or SL. Oops, I'll bet some of what I've just said was offensive to someone.

All of us pay for those who pile on the social-offense ARs, either to game the system or because they honestly cannot figure out how to personally deal with differing opinions. Nationalism? File an AR! Think someone's avatar is offensive? Report away! A flood of tears obscures behavior that actually violates the TOS, and occasionally even results in flawed action taken in the name of bettering our bizarre society.

EDIT: Now I'm just ranting. I'll stop!

I personally think those who are so anti-political correct often believe they have right to be inhumane, racist, sexist, elitist pigs... Yet there just as bad as those who say all the correct things to appear they are political correct but were in distant past share similar believes of KKK members.
Anyone who thinks its funny that group of people got fed to alligators because of their skin color basically in opinion is breaking the TOS around tolerance.
Freedom of speech is great but if you say you like watching little girls in public places and make website about it, or think its funny that black people were fed to alligators there something terribly wrong with you....
but lets face it you don't care about anyone else when you say things like that either.

Just to make this absolutely clear, we're not laughing at the idea that racist violence took place. We're not laughing at the idea that racist violence still takes place in the South. What we're laughing at is a post that reads like it was produced by Jerry Bruckheimer and directed by Roland Emmerich. No, wait, minority protagonist. Michael Bay.

Unless you didn't mean this thread at all, in which case, more power to you.

You're right FD, extreme Anti-PC is just as bad as extreme PC, and people will disagree on what is the middleground, or 'correct'. When I'm not sure, I ask myself,

"Does the person speaking hold any power (Employer, Teacher, etc)?
Is he/she a respected person in the community (do others of importance listen to him)?"

I can't say many people can take this seriously or be hurt by this,

[10:53] RR: we need bags for the foreigners
[10:53] RR: they are ugly
[10:53] RR: and they stink
[10:54] RR: Is it a crime to be a racist?
[10:54] RR: my ancestors would have fucked you guys too
[10:55] RR: whats wrong with racism anyway?
[10:55] RR: LOL
[10:56] RR: everyone like their own people best
[10:56] RR: everyone else can fuck off
[10:57] RR: you're prolly all 3 child molesters too
[10:58] RR: i understand that foreigners are assholes
[10:59] RR: its too bad we cant deport foreigners in SL
[11:00] RR: but maybe we're not from Assholio
[11:00] RR: like those creeps

Most of it doesn't even make any sense.
As for the alligator stuff, if this has happened in the past (sorry, not familiar with alligator stories from the South US) and it's true, bringing it up in chat to specifically insult and hurt someone would probably be against TOS.
But again, unless the insulter has any power over you (Land owner?), all he/she is doing is being an ass. I personally wouldn't be hurt. But that's just me.

Well I am anti political correctness. Though I am not extreme, at least I think I am not. However, the political correctness that is ruling at the moment, is as extreme as the opinions they want to surpress.

Freedom of speech? Don't make me laugh. Name me one country where freedom of speech really exists. O yes, most laws in western countries have it in there. But don't try to say something not political correct, because that unwritten law will prevail.

And saying the USA is the best country ever, and that you would want to deport foreigners, should be freedom of speech. And it would be my freedom of speech to say you are utterly wrong

Greetings, Marcel

Can I come back to say that I personally wish people would keep RL politics, religions and prejudices out of SL.

AMEN SISTER!!

Do you understand what fascism is? Sorry but this is rubbish.

Anything fascist gets banned alright. Sheesh.

Agreed. There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures ...and the Dutch.

just file it under harrassment if it's continual... much as I dislike bigots of all kinds (which oddly makes me a bigot of a sort) I'm glad to have them air their opinions, so I know up front where the shallow waters are so I can steer a course around them.