WTF? Adult Content threads all locked?

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That doesn't quite mesh with a Linden conversation I had (and I'm not at liberty to say which, but they were involved with the threads). On a PRIVATE sim, I was given the impression that you COULD mark it adult at the parcel level and that on a PRIVATE sim the 'entry restriction' would not be necessary if the whole sim was ADULT. The gist I got was more to restrict what was going to show IN SEARCH, that ADULT tagged parcels/sims would not show in search. if you were not PIOF or age verified. You can wander from sim to sim on the mainland, not so easy on private islands. (now if they were smart enough not to have ADULT SIMS not show up on the map if you weren't PIOF or age verified....)

So if there was a viable alternative that was dedicated to allowing adult content and following the established laws and procedures regarding adult content in the USA would a lot of people move there and vacate Second Life? A lot of people talk this walk but would they walk this talk or are they so addicted to SL that only SL being shuttered will get them off?

People will go where the money is Ann, that's the big selling point but I deplore the USA bashing over this issue, largely because it's a load of nonsense. I love your store however.

The day they get rid of all mature content is the day I cash out and call it quits. I might not be into all the sex that others are, but I like having the choice. I like being allowed to be an adult, even if it means having the maturity to say, "Hey, this offends me. I'd better leave it alone."

That is what SL is for me. It's my freedom to be ME, an adult, which is really hard to do when you have a kid or two dozen at home.

They basically had this back before 'unverified' accounts were introduced. Its not perfect but it works for pretty much every other adult internet venue in the states. It had its pros and cons of course, but they had it.

There is no USA bashing in my post at all. There are laws and procedures already worked out. To exceed these laws and regulations is to play with constitutional law fire and anyone that has ever tried has been burned beyond recognition.

Nope. No bashing at all. In fact quasi supportive of the USA laws since LL appears to be trying to set itself up as a law making body in some weird separate form of government.

Code is not God. Code was never and never will be the Law. The law is the law and the government of elected officials makes it. Not privately held or publicly held companies.

What surprises me more is that anyone seriously expected they'd leave those threads open until they racked up a number of replies rivaling the "please ignore and let this one die" thread.

Lol- did not realise signatures were being shown...did not understand what you were talking about.!! Went to my profile settings and realised i had it unticked to show people's signatures in all these months...years...



PS erm, yours is like...huge!

You really expected something other then that?

I don't blame them one bit for locking the threads. 65+ plus pages is a lot to get through and most folks weren't bothering to read it before posting the same gripe/question/opinion that had been posted at least 4 times before.

As for the gripes...mostly its just people afraid of change,even though it most likely will not affect them nearly as dramatically as they think it will.

In the long run, I think its a smart move for Linden Labs and one that will benefit residents on both sides of the fence that are in it for the long haul.

btw...If you already have payment info on file, you are set (and up to 5 of your alts)

Yeah.. Oh, except that bit where I have to pack up and move and trust that the 7-8 parcels split between 2 groups plus the 3-4 neighbors that would want to move with me get moved correctly.. And that I don't end up on a sim with 5 clubs on the other 1/2 of the land that have zombies camping there all day & night.

I'm excited. Really.

well that should say a lot then, yes?

I pretty much expected something like this to happen, it just had a much sorter "we are pretending to listen" period then I expected.

I'm sorry, this is a PG thread, you can't talk about that kinda hot makes me breath heavy stuff here. Move on, move on, nothing to see here...

Well the campbot zombies would all have to be adult verified wouldn't they? So way less chance of getting them as neighbours than anywhere else in SL.

Hey, thanks, Tegg. I feel better now.

Of course, considering you can adult verify dead people and cartoon characters...

they should be more keeping a eye about the kid thing then what then the Adult content what is anther SSS wher there is no right at all shh what next no land buying or some like the kid thing should on top of there list not this some come in to kid place look for sex with kid that sick and worng in my book kids on sl should be keep safe for other like that

Let’s put things plain and simple: Sex is, if not the first, one of the main attractions to SL, like it or not; the same way as that applies to the web. Reduce accessibility to the in-world sexual activities and you significantly weaken the whole thing.

I am not predicting the end of SL further to this adult-rating move (although such thing is quite possible in the case that a credible metaverse alternative enters the field); but I am convinced that it is going dramatically reduce the interest in the game.

The key issue here is the age-verification in itself. As it has been pointed by many already, there is no truly reliable and secure means to adult-verify users of SL or any other part of the internet. It is just resulting in the exclusion of adult people living in some areas of the world, and that is my case (and yes, I AM an adult but I’m pretty sure I won’t be able to comply with any adult verification system that SL is going to offer). Meanwhile, on the other hand, there WILL be thousands of underage US users that will manage to have an adult-verified account by using their parents CC number (or worse use any random CC card number that they find).

The idea that LL is covering their asses against lawsuits doesn’t seem to hold ground for me. If LL is at legal risk at all for the adult-content offer that is available in-world, then all ISP’s are at even higher risk: I can give thousand examples of pornographic sites on the web that can be accessed by ANYBODY without any age control. I don’t believe one single second that the companies that web-host such content have not extensively examined all the legal aspects of it and figured out that they are perfectly allowed by laws to do so. On the contrary, as someone mentioned in this thread, the new measure IS exposing LL to lawsuits by people who have invested in their business accordingly to the way SL has been organized so far and WILL lose money if LL’s intentions are realized.

The official argument given by LL is even dumber: the notion that the existence of adult content in some places is hindering some people’s SL experience. However, let’s admit it for the sake of argument; it makes sense to flag parcels for adult content (in a similar way that we are warned about damage-enabled areas), and it would not be a bad idea to give people the opportunity to voluntarily, optionally disable access to such parcels to their avatar. The problem is that it is not what LL is doing: LL tackles the problem in the opposite way: they decide to force people who want access to that content to go through a process that is likely to pose some technical issues for a lot of non-US residents adults.

Actually, my assumption is that LL folks are not dumb at all and they know exactly what they’re doing: they are aware that sex is a powerful appeal to Second Life and they want to get a bigger slice of that (financial) pie in the most cynical and Machiavellian way:
- The creation of an adult-rated continent is likely going to result in a higher-value category of virtual real-estate on mainland: a huge majority of people that are going to buy land for commercial purposes will do so on that adult-continent, even if their business is not primarily adult-centered because that's how they will maximise the size of their audience.
- More people are going to have PIOF because they are forced to, accordingly to the SL adult experience they choose to have. From having PIOF to actually use RL money to purchase L$ the step is a very little one and, read my lips: most of them will do that step.
The hypocrisy of this whole matter is sickening.

This is very disappointing and saddening, I used to love my second life and it seems I will be forced out by this measure. It’s not even because I choose not to comply, it’s because I won’t be in a position to comply, technically.

I didn't find any comments pointless, personally. A continued dialogue saw some new ideas spring up now and then. But how incisive could comments truly be when what we were all responding to was so nebulous?

I haven't gone back to the threads, I felt spent and also that all my ideas to help implement this in a less painful way had been offered.

Would someone please quote the 'brown bag' comment being referred to here? Thanks...

Nevermind also

--nevermind--

I heard Micky Mouse got the ok lol
No really someone IDV'ed Micky Mouse lol
and I think Elvis to lol
Atleast niether are kids LOLOLOL

I met three Elvises in Second Life. They were all in SL Graceland at the time. Two 'fat Elvii' were in a disco upstairs (SL Graceland has a bonus disco). The slimmer one was outside probably wishing he were still driving an SL truck...