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3Ring Binder
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06-12-2009 08:16
i'm sure they're still in there, Des. i mean, why would they remove the lag meter function?
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Ceka Cianci
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06-12-2009 08:22
didn't they remove that one time before or am i thinking of the upper right corner where the packet loss and connection are?
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Czari Zenovka
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06-12-2009 08:26
/me continues clutching the 1.18.5.3 version with the Nicholaz viewer until my knuckles turn white

ETA: This is starting to remind me of EQ gradually "dumbing down" the game and constantly changing interfaces. Then people began developing alternate GUIs - some rather creative. Wonder if that will happen with SL.

2nd ETA: I wonder if they've gotten around to including a decent first-person view - not the clunky "mouse view" that LL thinks passes for first person view.
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Arcady Yue
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Join date: 19 May 2009
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06-12-2009 08:28
lag meter?

Isn't that something in the advanced menu atm?

The pie menu drives me nuts.

I click a spot on my screen, I expect my avatar to walk over there. Not some random menu to popup.

And if I click my mouse and turn it, I expect to see my avatar turn around, or turn while moving - and if I right click, my camera to spin around my avatar.

Why?

Because that's how every single other 3D environment I've used works...
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Milla Janick
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06-12-2009 08:30
From: 3Ring Binder
i'm sure they're still in there, Des. i mean, why would they remove the lag meter function?

Because they're idiots.

It looks like they've removed the snapshot to disk command too. Thanks, LL. It's not like I use that all the freaking time or anything.

It took eight months to ruin the UI?
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Kristopher Tenk
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06-12-2009 08:39
LL needs to stop making changes and :

1. Fix the bugs that are out at present
2. Give avatars better mesh and improve appearance mode controls
3. Listen to the users and what WE want
4. See what other viewers have done, and add a few of the best features to this viewer

THEN work on new features!

Well thats what I think :)
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Czari Zenovka
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06-12-2009 08:41
From: Kristopher Tenk
LL needs to stop making changes and :

1. Fix the bugs that are out at present
2. Give avatars better mesh and improve appearance mode controls
3. Listen to the users and what WE want
4. See what other viewers have done, and add a few of the best features to this viewer

THEN work on new features!

Well thats what I think :)


QFT!

(I wasn't in the best of moods to begin with today...now I'm really bummed. The heck with logging into SL.)
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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06-12-2009 08:42
I left my comment out on Massively, but...

Tools menu? Tools menu functions?

I'm good with a contextual menu, and I know there's a bright shiny build button at the bottom -- but where's all those functions? Am I missing "show/hide selection beam," "show light radius," etc.?

Oh, and this is not a 2.0, aside from marketing. It's a bit much to call it that , and exactly like AOL 4.0 and 5.0 were marketing moves.
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06-12-2009 08:48
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06-12-2009 08:50
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
..... I'm not sure they warrant an entire 6-8 months of development time though. ...
I think they used government contracts as a model for signing up this contract company.
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06-12-2009 08:55
From: Milla Janick
It looks like they've removed the snapshot to disk command too.
WTF -- I use that for almost every freakin picture I take.
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Kristopher Tenk
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06-12-2009 08:56
Looking at the photos again, it looks more like a service pack upgrade than a full 2.0 many new features and fixes upgrade lol

Granted a few nice changes but, not enough to warrant a 2.0 status
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Ceka Cianci
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06-12-2009 09:20
From: LittleMe Jewell
WTF -- I use that for almost every freakin picture I take.

i see the options for saving to disk..
the 5th box over they are there ;)
http://media.taterunino.net/sl2/sl2-menus1.jpg
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Qie Niangao
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06-12-2009 09:25
Does anyone understand the roadmap now? How does 2.0 fit with the current mainline client development, and with Snowglobe? Who the heck is gonna take on release management and the nightmarish merge(s) ahead? :confused: :confused:
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Bradley Bracken
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06-12-2009 09:37
I think there's a lot of projects I'd rather have had them do first. The new looks and button locations seem okay to me, but I don't expect I'll be doing any cartwheels for excitement.
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Brenda Connolly
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06-12-2009 09:40
From: Ishina Xue
Is this a new game or an update of the existing one?

Waaahh!! It's not a game! :mad: :p

Meh, by the time I get around to it, it'll be changed anyway.

*Pats her Cool Viewer..the Luddites delight.
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06-12-2009 09:44
From: Qie Niangao
Does anyone understand the roadmap now? How does 2.0 fit with the current mainline client development, and with Snowglobe? Who the heck is gonna take on release management and the nightmarish merge(s) ahead? :confused: :confused:
This would indicate that LL has a clue or a plan (other than screwing up the forums and inworld experience).
:rolleyes:
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06-12-2009 09:46
From: Bradley Bracken
.... but I don't expect I'll be doing any cartwheels for excitement.
if you do the cartwheels in your chaps, it could provide lots of excitement for a few of us.
;)
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Marianne McCann
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06-12-2009 09:50
More coming out about this -- it might not be a current "2.0" project, and may well be a dead development branch for all we know.
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Czari Zenovka
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06-12-2009 10:01
From: Qie Niangao
Does anyone understand the roadmap now? How does 2.0 fit with the current mainline client development, and with Snowglobe?


What is Snowglobe? (Dang...did I blink and miss another "enhancement?";)
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06-12-2009 10:03
From: Czari Zenovka
What is Snowglobe? (Dang...did I blink and miss another "enhancement?";)


Philip's new toy - http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe
Milla Janick
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06-12-2009 10:18
From: Ceka Cianci
i see the options for saving to disk..
the 5th box over they are there ;)
http://media.taterunino.net/sl2/sl2-menus1.jpg

I must be missing it, I see the advanced options for it, but I don't see the CTRL-` "Snapshot to disk" command.

Maybe they've hidden it. I hope they haven't removed it and forgotten to remove the options.
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Argent Stonecutter
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06-12-2009 10:32
From: Brenda Connolly
They've killed The Pie!!!!! :eek:

Bastards! Bloody, stinking, dictatorial , bastards!!!!
OK, that's it, I'm switching to Open Source clients exclusively.
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Ava Velde
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06-12-2009 10:40
Now I am sure this is snake pee!
Ceka Cianci
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06-12-2009 10:45
From: Milla Janick
I must be missing it, I see the advanced options for it, but I don't see the CTRL-` "Snapshot to disk" command.

i always made my choice in the snapshot options..maybe they pulled out the hot key for this and you have to choose there..
who knows and why they would do that really doesn't make sense either..maybe it's sitting with the upload option on the inventory..

bleh..no pie and everything moved all over the place..

BLEH!!! just Bleh!! lol
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